Am I ripped yet?

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    Jun 24, 2010 2:13 AM GMT
    How can you tell when you really are muscular enough? Is there any kind of test or measurement or something? When I ask people they usually say I look good and I am muscular, but then sometimes I get called skinny. Its like which is it! Sometimes I think I look toned or defined, but other days not at all. I workout almost everyday, so I don't get it. How will I ever know when I look decent enough? Have any of you guys ever had that day where you looked in the mirror and said" finally, this is exactly how I envisioned my ideal body to look like", and if so, how did you know you had reached your goal, and how long did it take? Any advice would be very appreciated. Thanks
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    Jun 24, 2010 2:19 AM GMT
    Everyone has different goals. Listening to what others "think" you should look like will only confuse you.
    The best thing you can do is learn to accept your body as it is, decide how you'd like it to look, and train for that specifically. Those who try to lead you off course can kiss your ass. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 24, 2010 5:53 AM GMT
    what other people say reflects as much about them as it does about objective reality. For example, Chuckles thinks most people are "tiny, skinny, starving" and is only happy when people are of the huge body builder type, a type which many people find unattractive. In other words, you have to decide how you want to look and enjoy it. You can´t please others.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
    you can be skinny and still be defined. And I when I look at you, I think you are more defined than muscular. If you wish to be both you need to gain about 40 lbs of good quality muscle for a guy who is 6 feet I think 200 lbs of ripped muscle would be great for your frame. But at the end of the day it is up to you and what physical features you want to have.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:19 AM GMT
    Lostboy saidwhat other people say reflects as much about them as it does about objective reality. For example, Chuckles thinks most people are "tiny, skinny, starving" and is only happy when people are of the huge body builder type, a type which many people find unattractive. In other words, you have to decide how you want to look and enjoy it. You can´t please others.


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    Jun 25, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    naivenewbie saidHow can you tell when you really are muscular enough? Is there any kind of test or measurement or something? When I ask people they usually say I look good and I am muscular, but then sometimes I get called skinny. Its like which is it! Sometimes I think I look toned or defined, but other days not at all. I workout almost everyday, so I don't get it. How will I ever know when I look decent enough? Have any of you guys ever had that day where you looked in the mirror and said" finally, this is exactly how I envisioned my ideal body to look like", and if so, how did you know you had reached your goal, and how long did it take? Any advice would be very appreciated. Thanks


    Right now, you look really thin, but, if that's the look you seek, then, fine. You don't need to go looking for approval from others. You don't lead your life for them. Lead it for yourself, while doing good for others.

    The definition of "muscular" is "an abundance of muscle." Clearly, that's not true in your case, as you barely make the minimum for your height, but, if that's what you want fine.

    It turns folks off when someone seeks validation. It's as though you're fishing for compliments / ego stroking and that you're needy. People, especially others that are "needy" will stroke you but it's rarely the truth.

    Are you ripped? Well, kinda' in an anorexic sort of way. Are you muscular? No. You're just the opposite: non-muscular.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
    Here's the "standard" weight chart for men. Athletes, and in particular weight lifters, will weigh considerably more. As you can see, you're right at the bottom of the weights for someone your height and that is inactive. To be frank, you're non-muscular, but, lean, and thin. If that's your goal, ok, but, don't be disillusioned about it. It is what it is.

    standard_weight_chart_for_men.jpg

    It's all relative. It's O.K. if you want to be skinny and 160. You need to address the underlying issue of why you're needy.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:28 AM GMT
    Lostboy saidwhat other people say reflects as much about them as it does about objective reality. For example, Chuckles thinks most people are "tiny, skinny, starving" and is only happy when people are of the huge body builder type, a type which many people find unattractive. In other words, you have to decide how you want to look and enjoy it. You can´t please others.


    Thanks for continuing to be a fan! You'll have to show us what you look like sometime!
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:34 AM GMT
    I only measure on how well i can fill in my shirt! haha when it comes to size increase.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
    Right now youre 23. If you track a lot of men the size and weight will increase with age. When I was 23 I couldnt bust past 165 no matter how much I ate, lifted, or usually both. I really wanted to get bigger but it was very difficult to attain. Now I'm almost 200 at 48 and I wish I was 175-185 again. When I was 185 there were days I wanted to be 170 and other days I wanted to be 200. As others have said it is more a matter of what you want and set a goal to get there. If you get there and are not happy..Shoot for something else. Looking at your pics you look great as you are ..enjoy it icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:47 AM GMT
    My measuring stick: photos of myself before and after, and surreptitious peeks at muscular guys alongside me in a mirror. If I'm close to what they look like, I'll say I'm doing fine. If I'm a little small next to them, I'll hit it a little more.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:51 AM GMT
    crazycool saidI only measure on how well i can fill in my shirt! haha when it comes to size increase.
    I just buy smaller sizes and people think I've bulked up. icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 25, 2010 3:28 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidHere's the "standard" weight chart for men. Athletes, and in particular weight lifters, will weigh considerably more. As you can see, you're right at the bottom of the weights for someone your height and that is inactive. To be frank, you're non-muscular, but, lean, and thin. If that's your goal, ok, but, don't be disillusioned about it. It is what it is.



    It's all relative. It's O.K. if you want to be skinny and 160. You need to address the underlying issue of why you're needy.


    tons of athletes are well within the "average" weight chart.
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    Jun 25, 2010 3:30 AM GMT
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    crazycool saidI only measure on how well i can fill in my shirt! haha when it comes to size increase.
    I just buy smaller sizes and people think I've bulked up. icon_lol.gif



    Oh I know...I get my t-shirts size fetus!
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    Jun 25, 2010 7:24 AM GMT
    chuckystud said
    you look really thin... Are you ripped? Well, kinda' in an anorexic sort of way. Are you muscular? No. You're just the opposite: non-muscular.

    To be frank, you're non-muscular, but, lean, and thin.... It's O.K. if you want to be skinny and 160. You need to address the underlying issue of why you're needy.


    Ohhh.. FTW. More predictable than the sun rising. (Though I forgot he uses the word "anorexic" in the most inappropriate ways.

    But then, what was that.....

    chuckystud saidThanks for continuing to be a fan! You'll have to show us what you look like sometime!


    Oh... the crushing put down, the deft military tactics. Will I EVER recover?

    dr-who-time-squad-collect-and-build--son


    (I made a promise to myself that every time Chuckles does his "you are tiny, starving, eat and use drugs" thing to good looking guys that the Sontarans would come out. Body dysmorphia is never nice, but projecting it onto others is worse)
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:10 PM GMT
    Its one thing to call me slim, but anorexic looking?!!!! Thats not fairicon_sad.gif Thanks I feel so good about myself now
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:19 PM GMT
    naivenewbie saidIts one thing to call me slim, but anorexic looking?!!!! Thats not fairicon_sad.gif Thanks I feel so good about myself now

    "Anorexic"? Absurd. Proving once again that it's all in the eyes of the beholder, especially when the beholder has a personal agenda.
    "Well-defined" would be more accurate.
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:29 PM GMT
    Hey Naivenewbie... i know just what you're going through. I straddled the line between thin and 'muscled' for a long, long, time...

    The weird thing is, I still do... except now it's between "small" and "big"... some people say I'm big, others say I'm "normal-size." I sure don't feel big, but I suspect that's because my metrestick (yardstick, for you 'Mericans) is the hulks walking around at the gym....

    I think it's also true that people bigger than you will think you're small, and people in worse shape will think you're muscular. It's all about who you stand next to. In the movie "Rundown" Seann William Scott is in awesome shape, and well-muscled too... but he looks puny standing next to the Rock. Wouldn't most of us?

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    Jun 25, 2010 12:31 PM GMT
    Fat/unhealthy people often refer to healthy/trim/fit people as "Skinny."
    I think it is their way of putting a negative spin on something that makes them feel, well, fat &/or unhealthy.

    You look good: more importantly, you should know you look good...
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    Jun 25, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
    EccentricStud saidFat/unhealthy people often refer to healthy/trim/fit people as "Skinny."
    I think it is their way of putting a negative spin on something that makes them feel, well, fat &/or unhealthy.
    And I'm the kind of blunt person who tells them they're just blinded by their own fatness when they tell me that. It pisses them off, but I don't give a fuck. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 25, 2010 1:32 PM GMT
    I think overall you look very fit, with nice broad shoulders. You strike me as having a runner's build. As others have pointed out, to look muscular you need to add some weight. Without putting on fat, I think for your height and frame 190 - 200 lbs would be a good target if you wanted to be muscular. It would require a suitable weight lifting program aimed at muscle growth and a good diet including sufficient carbs and protein.

    You asked about being ripped, not muscular. I see people defining ripped two ways. 1) Very muscular, and also muscles very defined based on low BF %. 2) Less muscular, but good muscle tone. Definition comes from low BF % often showing the 6 pack.

    2) would be a target you could achieve sooner. I think you would be very happy with the results around the 180 lb area, and then you could decide if you want to increase the muscularity and corresponding weight.

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    Jun 25, 2010 1:36 PM GMT
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    naivenewbie saidHow can you tell when you really are muscular enough? Is there any kind of test or measurement or something? When I ask people they usually say I look good and I am muscular, but then sometimes I get called skinny. Its like which is it! Sometimes I think I look toned or defined, but other days not at all. I workout almost everyday, so I don't get it. How will I ever know when I look decent enough? Have any of you guys ever had that day where you looked in the mirror and said" finally, this is exactly how I envisioned my ideal body to look like", and if so, how did you know you had reached your goal, and how long did it take? Any advice would be very appreciated. Thanks


    Right now, you look really thin, but, if that's the look you seek, then, fine. You don't need to go looking for approval from others. You don't lead your life for them. Lead it for yourself, while doing good for others.

    The definition of "muscular" is "an abundance of muscle." Clearly, that's not true in your case, as you barely make the minimum for your height, but, if that's what you want fine.

    It turns folks off when someone seeks validation. It's as though you're fishing for compliments / ego stroking and that you're needy. People, especially others that are "needy" will stroke you but it's rarely the truth.

    Are you ripped? Well, kinda' in an anorexic sort of way. Are you muscular? No. You're just the opposite: non-muscular.


    Just to comment - I don't think its so nice when you say to someone "You don't need to go looking for approval from others. You don't lead your life for them. Lead it for yourself, while doing good for others," Then go on to criticizing him for asking everyone's opinion. Which in reality is telling him what he should and should not do.

    "It turns folks off when someone seeks validation." You like to call it validation. He might not see it that way. Even if he is looking for validation, it would be a turn off for you, not for everyone. If I was this poster and you said what you said, I'd be pretty pissed.

    "Are you ripped? Well, kinda' in an anorexic sort of way. Are you muscular? No. You're just the opposite: non-muscular."

    talk about passive aggressive. i'd say follow your own advice

    JEEZE!

    Just sayin.
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    Jun 25, 2010 2:26 PM GMT
    EccentricStud saidFat/unhealthy people often refer to healthy/trim/fit people as "Skinny."
    I think it is their way of putting a negative spin on something that makes them feel, well, fat &/or unhealthy.


    OMG I know that is so annoying, it's their sad attempt at making themselves feel better than you. Hear that all the time it's really getting old.
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    Jun 25, 2010 2:52 PM GMT
    naivenewbie saidIts one thing to call me slim, but anorexic looking?!!!! Thats not fairicon_sad.gif Thanks I feel so good about myself now


    Don't take it personal - everyone's used to Chucky insulting people to make himself feel better. It's either part of his schtick or some sort of personality defect. Or he just didn't get enough attention as a child.

    Either way, its not you - it's him. So no worries.
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    Jun 25, 2010 3:01 PM GMT
    chuckystud said
    Are you ripped? Well, kinda' in an anorexic sort of way. Are you muscular? No. You're just the opposite: non-muscular.


    Oh wow. I'm new here, so maybe there's something I don't get, but he doesn't look anorexic at all. And "non-muscular" to me means flabby or just "soft". I would describe his body type as "defined".