Texas GOP Platform

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    Jun 24, 2010 1:14 PM GMT
    Interesting read...

    There is a link through this story to the platform in PDF form.

    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0621/tx-gop-platform-jail-mexicans-criminalize-sodomy-gay-marriage-felony/

    A few bad ideas:

    1. Family and Defense of Marriage
    2. Family Values (affirmation and normalization of homosexual behavior is being forced onto our children)
    3.Oppose the legalization of sodomy
    4. Prohibit pornography
    5. Oppose adoption by homosexuals
    6. oppose the morning after pill
    7. Gestational contracts (We believe renting a woman's womb makes child bearing a commodity)


    Good ideas:
    1. Teachers getting more power to discipline in classrooms
    2. Textbooks for college students shouldn't change but every ten years to reduce costs to the students
    3. That education focus on the American identity and strengthen or enriched by all members of society without making a difference in the person's skin color.
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    Jun 24, 2010 3:37 PM GMT
    Balljunkie saidThere is a link through this story to the platform in PDF form.

    4. Prohibit pornography

    Including straight porn? Good luck with that in Texas, where I lived 4 years.

    2. Textbooks for college students shouldn't change but every ten years to reduce costs to the students.

    I had no idea that academic thought was only revised every decade. Who woulda thunk?

    And what business does a political party have with deciding how often college text books are revised? I would never have guessed that academic & scientific thought were governed by political principles. Is this the new Stalinism?

    It rather reminds me of how the Catholic Church imposed its religious doctrine on scientific studies during the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, retarding intellectual advancement & discoveries by hundreds of years. Only here we substitute politics for religion. Or is Republicanism a religion for some? It does seem that way, and with so many now being fundamentalist Christians, well...
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    Jun 24, 2010 4:24 PM GMT
    I'm relying on Balljunkie's summary because I haven't the fortitude to wade through the Texas G.O.P.'s nonsense. But it appears obvious that among their bad ideas 3, 4, 6 and 7 are obviously unconstitutional. Lawrence v Texas blows a hole in 3. 4 is a clear violation of the Fist Amendment. Rowe v Wade (and subsequent decisions based on it) take care of 6 and 7.

    1, 2 and 5 may run into problems as a number of gay rights cases move through the federal courts.

    As for their 'good ideas', Balljunkie and I may need to differ. If good idea #1 means corporal punishment, it's not a good idea in my book. Idea #2 is asinine. Printed textbooks will be all but obsolete in a few years. And, if Texas adopts that one then their students will be (another) 10 years behind the rest of the world. Yes, new textbook editions every year suck and are exploitative, but the alternative is worse. #3 is another attempt to criminalize the teaching of ethnic studies in order to keep kids focussed on the explotis of dead white men. I'll pass on that one too, thanks.

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    Jun 24, 2010 5:29 PM GMT
    flieslikeabeagle saidI'm relying on Balljunkie's summary because I haven't the fortitude to wade through the Texas G.O.P.'s nonsense. But it appears obvious that among their bad ideas 3, 4, 6 and 7 are obviously unconstitutional. Lawrence v Texas blows a hole in 3. 4 is a clear violation of the Fist Amendment. Rowe v Wade (and subsequent decisions based on it) take care of 6 and 7.

    1, 2 and 5 may run into problems as a number of gay rights cases move through the federal courts.

    As for their 'good ideas', Balljunkie and I may need to differ. If good idea #1 means corporal punishment, it's not a good idea in my book. Idea #2 is asinine. Printed textbooks will be all but obsolete in a few years. And, if Texas adopts that one then their students will be (another) 10 years behind the rest of the world. Yes, new textbook editions every year suck and are exploitative, but the alternative is worse. #3 is another attempt to criminalize the teaching of ethnic studies in order to keep kids focussed on the explotis of dead white men. I'll pass on that one too, thanks.



    Agreed, number 3 under "good ideas" is total crap.
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    Jun 24, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
    This, from the platform:

    "We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values."

    Race to the bottom...keep it up, Texas GOP.
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    Jun 24, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
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    mickeytopogigio saidThis, from the platform:

    "We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values."

    Race to the bottom...keep it up, Texas GOP.

    Reality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.


    Uh.. a significant amount of Repbulicans do think this. Thankfully, with my generation, those numbers are declining... wait 20 more years and you'll see a very different party.

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    More scary shit:

    Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) – We oppose this act through which the federal government would coerce religious business owners and employees to violate their own beliefs and principles by affirming what they consider to be sinful and sexually immoral behavior.

    Ten Commandments We oppose any governmental action to restrict, prohibit, or remove public display of the Decalogue or other religious symbols.
    Pledge of Allegiance – We support adoption of the Pledge Protection Act. We also demand that the National Motto “In God We Trust” and National Anthem be protected from legislative and judicial attack.

    Flag Desecration – Any form of desecration of the American Flag is an act of disregard for our nation and its people and penalties should be established for such.

    Sonograms – We urge the Texas legislature in its next biennial session to enact legislation requiring a sonogram be performed and offered as part of the consent process to each mother seeking an elective abortion.

    Stem Cell Research – We oppose any legislation that would allow for the creation and/or killing of human embryos for medical research. We encourage stem cell research using cells from umbilical cords, from adults, and from any other means which does not kill human embryos. We oppose any state funding of research that destroys/kills human embryos. We encourage the adoption of existing embryos. We call for legislation to withhold state and/or federal funding from institutions that engage in scientific research involving the killing of human embryos or human cloning

    Adoption – We support reducing the time, bureaucratic interference and cost of adoption. The law should assure mothers of a choice in selecting a traditional home for their children at the time of terminating their rights for adoption. We oppose
    mandatory open adoption and adoption by homosexuals.


    Welfare Reform – Texas should continue to reduce the number of welfare recipients by enacting tough welfare reforms; denying benefits to illegal aliens, and encouraging partnerships with faith based institutions, community and business organizations to assist individuals in need. The current system encourages dependency on government and robs individuals and generations of healthy motivation and self
    respect. Welfare reforms should require recipients to work, learn, train, and remain substance abuse free in exchange for benefits not exceeding two years. Welfare cards should be confined to food and vital essentials, not cigarettes, lottery purchases, or alcohol or drugs of any kind. Prisoners should be removed from welfare rolls.

    Immunizations - All adult citizens should have the legal right to conscientiously choose which vaccines are administered to themselves or their minor children without penalty for refusing a vaccine. We oppose any effort by any authority to mandate such vaccines or any medical database that would contain personal records of citizens without their consent.

    College Textbooks – We support Texas’ colleges and universities use of the same or substitutable textbooks for ten or more years in order to bring costs to students down and maintain some residual value for used books. We oppose restrictions on use of textbooks for multiple years, such as requiring annual access codes.

    Controversial Theories – Realizing that conflict and debate is a proven learning tool in classrooms, we support objective teaching and equal treatment of all sides of scientific theories, including evolution, Intelligent Design, global warming, political philosophies, and others. We believe theories of life origins and environmental theories should be taught as challengeable scientific theory subject to change as new data is produced, not scientific law. Teachers and students should be able to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly and without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind.

    Multiculturalism – We support teaching the principles articulated by Republican Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., that we be judged not by the color of our skin but by the content of our character and we celebrate positive contributions to our
    society by members of all cultural groups without emphasizing their differences. We favor strengthening our common American identity and loyalty instead of multiculturalism that emphasizes differences among racial and ethnic groups.

    Sex Education – We recognize parental responsibility and authority regarding sex education. We support policies that mandate parental notification and consent before any sex education program is presented to their child. Parents must be given an opportunity to review the material prior to giving their consent. We oppose any sex education other than abstinence until heterosexual marriage.

    State Board of Education (SBOE) – The (SBOE) should be elected and have authority over the Texas Education Agency, including determination of the Commissioner of Education, curriculum (including textbook content) and
    textbook adoption. The SBOE maintains constitutional authority over the Permanent School Fund. The TEA offers subject-area teacher certification without additional educational requirements for individuals who hold a baccalaureate in their field or professionals who have equivalent life experience in a field. Texas Education Code 28.008 and 28.009 should be amended to replace the appointed and unaccountable Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (THECB) responsibilities and authorities with the ELECTED SBOE. We support competitive pricing as part of the textbook selection process by independent school districts and oppose standard maximum pricing schemes. The SBOE must have sole authority over all curricula content and state adoption of educational materials and ancillaries, (regardless of methods of delivery, including but not limited to textbooks, laptops and electronic delivery systems). This process must include public hearings. We urge the Legislature to expand State Board of Education’s authority to establish textbook adoption standards. In a rare exception to general conservative principles of smaller costs of government, the SBOE should be minimally staffed and funded by the
    Legislature out of general revenue. We strongly support recent SBOE actions in areas of science and social studies, the latter of which recognized the contributions of minority patriots in Texas and United States history.Judeo-Christian Nation – As America is a nation under God founded on Judeo-Christian principles, we affirm the
    constitutional right of all individuals to worship in the religion of their choice.

    Safeguarding Our Religious Liberties – We affirm that the public acknowledgement of God is undeniable in our history andis vital to our freedom, prosperity and strength. We pledge our influence toward a return to the original intent of the First Amendment and toward dispelling the myth of separation of church and state. We urge the Legislature to increase the P - 16ability of faith-based institutions and other organizations to assist the needy and to reduce regulation of suchorganizations.

    Capital Punishment – Properly applied capital punishment is legitimate, is an effective deterren
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    Jun 24, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
    The Texas GOP... and many other GOPers... like to complain about "big government," but their platforms are full of policies aimed at controlling the populus.

    Actually, their positions on religion and science upset me more than their positions on homosexuality.
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    Jun 24, 2010 7:44 PM GMT
    flieslikeabeagle saidI'm relying on Balljunkie's summary because I haven't the fortitude to wade through the Texas G.O.P.'s nonsense. But it appears obvious that among their bad ideas 3, 4, 6 and 7 are obviously unconstitutional. Lawrence v Texas blows a hole in 3. 4 is a clear violation of the Fist Amendment. Rowe v Wade (and subsequent decisions based on it) take care of 6 and 7.

    1, 2 and 5 may run into problems as a number of gay rights cases move through the federal courts.

    As for their 'good ideas', Balljunkie and I may need to differ. If good idea #1 means corporal punishment, it's not a good idea in my book. Idea #2 is asinine. Printed textbooks will be all but obsolete in a few years. And, if Texas adopts that one then their students will be (another) 10 years behind the rest of the world. Yes, new textbook editions every year suck and are exploitative, but the alternative is worse. #3 is another attempt to criminalize the teaching of ethnic studies in order to keep kids focussed on the explotis of dead white men. I'll pass on that one too, thanks.



    I was hoping that it would actually mean that they would teach it as a whole subject without doing all black history in the 28 days of February. It should be taught all year.

    As for corporate punishment, yeah, that would be bad idea. But I hope that some asshole teacher doesn't do that.

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    Jun 24, 2010 7:51 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidReality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.

    Do you have evidence of that statement? This is the official Republican Party platform in Texas, under which their candidates run, for the US Congress and for all State offices, receiving State Republican Party endorsement & funding.

    Pleas list the Texas Republican candidates who have publicly rejected this platform. You can put their names right here, along with links to their press releases where they have repudiated the official Texas party platform ---

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    Jun 24, 2010 8:59 PM GMT
    I think they inadvertently left out slavery...
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    Jun 24, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mickeytopogigio said...Race to the bottom...keep it up, Texas GOP.

    Reality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.

    So, don't vote Republican. Sounds like they're telling you who they are, and you refuse to believe them. Maybe you're the reasonable Republican...so get these diaper droppings out of office.
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    Jun 24, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidReality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.


    Question: if the majority do not think that, then why do they allow loons to write their platform?
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    Jun 24, 2010 9:16 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidReality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.

    Do you have evidence of that statement? This is the official Republican Party platform in Texas, under which their candidates run, for the US Congress and for all State offices, receiving State Republican Party endorsement & funding.

    Pleas list the Texas Republican candidates who have publicly rejected this platform. You can put their names right here, along with links to their press releases where they have repudiated the official Texas party platform ---



    You can argue exactly now much the party's platform plays a role in the candidates themselves. Campaigns are more driven by personality and the candidate rather than the party and its stances on issues. The platform is actually crafted more by the most passionate parts of the party rather than the broad electorate. Social Conservatives are usually those put in most time volunteering, donating money, and giving of their time to the Republican Party.

    I doubt most Republican voters in Texas actually know their own platform, most people don't really care. They have other things to worry about like their job, debt, families and etc.
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    Jun 24, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
    darkeyedresolve saidI doubt most Republican voters in Texas actually know their own platform, most people don't really care. They have other things to worry about like their job, debt, families and etc.

    So, it's the job of the diligent ones to get the message out there: here's what you're voting for...and ask them if they wanna get on that bigot train.
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    Wilton said
    southbeach1500 saidReality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.

    Do you have evidence of that statement? This is the official Republican Party platform in Texas, under which their candidates run, for the US Congress and for all State offices, receiving State Republican Party endorsement & funding.

    Pleas list the Texas Republican candidates who have publicly rejected this platform. You can put their names right here, along with links to their press releases where they have repudiated the official Texas party platform ---



    I doubt most Republican voters in Texas actually know their own platform, most people don't really care. They have other things to worry about like their job, debt, families and etc.


    Then if the Republican Party wants to win over the independents and centrists, moderate fiscal republicans need to come out and condemn the social conservatives. Moderate conservatives need to step up and say... Focus on the Family doesn't speak for me... my pastor's views are not necessarily my own.

    I know of a fiscal conservative who is deeply a hardcore republican. I think he is ashamed of social conservatives. He hasn't the balls to criticize his own party... but he readily attacks liberals with the "big government" arguement.

    This is what I hate about partisan politics... politicians/canidates keep their mouths shut for "the good of the party" intsead of sticking up for what they truly believe. It seems like there is very little public internal debates within the political parties. The repubulicans I do support are often called RINOs--Republicans In Name Only.

    Thankfully, Maine's GOP platform is significantly different from the Texas GOP platform... I assume this is similar with other traditionally blue states.
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    Jun 24, 2010 10:18 PM GMT
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    darkeyedresolve said
    Wilton said
    southbeach1500 saidReality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.

    Do you have evidence of that statement? This is the official Republican Party platform in Texas, under which their candidates run, for the US Congress and for all State offices, receiving State Republican Party endorsement & funding.

    Pleas list the Texas Republican candidates who have publicly rejected this platform. You can put their names right here, along with links to their press releases where they have repudiated the official Texas party platform ---



    I doubt most Republican voters in Texas actually know their own platform, most people don't really care. They have other things to worry about like their job, debt, families and etc.


    Then if the Republican Party wants to win over the independents and centrists, moderate fiscal republicans need to come out and condemn the social conservatives. Moderate conservatives need to step up and say... Focus on the Family doesn't speak for me... my pastor's views are not necessarily my own.

    I know of a fiscal conservative who is deeply a hardcore republican. I think he is ashamed of social conservatives. He hasn't the balls to criticize his own party... but he readily attacks liberals with the "big government" arguement.

    This is what I hate about partisan politics... politicians/canidates keep their mouths shut for "the good of the party" intsead of sticking up for what they truly believe. It seems like there is very little public internal debates within the political parties. The repubulicans I do support are often called RINOs--Republicans In Name Only.

    Thankfully, Maine's GOP platform is significantly different from the Texas GOP platform... I assume this is similar with other traditionally blue states.


    Actually this proves my point, you think Maine GOP platform isn't as conservative as Texas?

    http://www.mainepolitics.net/content/maine-republicans-adopt-tea-party-platform

    Party Platform are less and less important as we have moved into more Candidate dominant campaigns.

    Does anyone think that Susan Collins agrees with her state party's new platform?

    They have become rewards to activists for their work for the party, and most of these things won't be enacted.


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    Jun 24, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
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    Wilton said
    southbeach1500 saidReality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.

    Do you have evidence of that statement? This is the official Republican Party platform in Texas, under which their candidates run, for the US Congress and for all State offices, receiving State Republican Party endorsement & funding.

    Pleas list the Texas Republican candidates who have publicly rejected this platform. You can put their names right here, along with links to their press releases where they have repudiated the official Texas party platform ---



    I doubt most Republican voters in Texas actually know their own platform, most people don't really care. They have other things to worry about like their job, debt, families and etc.


    Then if the Republican Party wants to win over the independents and centrists, moderate fiscal republicans need to come out and condemn the social conservatives. Moderate conservatives need to step up and say... Focus on the Family doesn't speak for me... my pastor's views are not necessarily my own.

    I know of a fiscal conservative who is deeply a hardcore republican. I think he is ashamed of social conservatives. He hasn't the balls to criticize his own party... but he readily attacks liberals with the "big government" arguement.

    This is what I hate about partisan politics... politicians/canidates keep their mouths shut for "the good of the party" intsead of sticking up for what they truly believe. It seems like there is very little public internal debates within the political parties. The repubulicans I do support are often called RINOs--Republicans In Name Only.

    Thankfully, Maine's GOP platform is significantly different from the Texas GOP platform... I assume this is similar with other traditionally blue states.


    Actually this proves my point, you think Maine GOP platform isn't as conservative as Texas?

    http://www.mainepolitics.net/content/maine-republicans-adopt-tea-party-platform

    Party Platform are less and less important as we have moved into more Candidate dominant campaigns.

    Does anyone think that Susan Collins agrees with her state party's new platform?

    They have become rewards to activists for their work for the party, and most of these things won't be enacted.




    Umm... I'm not sure what your point is or if you even proved anything. I get that you believe that platforms are usually more radical than the actual politicians... but I'm not sure that's always the case.

    BTW: Collins and Snowe are frequently called RINOs (both of whom I have supported in thew past).

    And you say "rewards for their party activisim?" I guess I'm the type of person that stands by what I write... I don't write things just to make myself (or any cause that I support) more popular.
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    mickeytopogigio saidThis, from the platform:

    "We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values."

    Race to the bottom...keep it up, Texas GOP.

    Reality check: Fortunately, most Republicans and conservatives don't believe that... it's just the loons who are actually involved in writing the platform.



    Can you provide data to back up your claim that most Republicans and conservatives don't back that text?
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    Jun 24, 2010 11:34 PM GMT
    I swear the Texas GOP is among the most primitive-minded and backward state party in the country. These bumbling morons evidently want to turn America into a theocratic dictatorship. Well they need to keep that idiotic bullshit confined to the most remote rural areas of East Texas and the high plains around Lubbock and Amarillo.
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    Jun 24, 2010 11:45 PM GMT
    Balljunkie saidGood ideas:
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    2. Textbooks for college students shouldn't change but every ten years to reduce costs to the students


    You think that's a good idea?
    ...are you smoking crack?

    Aside from the idea of professors being told what texts they can and can't use being ludicrous, what world do you live in where you think you only need to update textbooks every 10 years?
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    Balljunkie said3. That education focus on the American identity and strengthen or enriched by all members of society without making a difference in the person's skin color.


    How could any educational approach make a difference in the person's skin color? By occurring outdoors?
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    conscienti1984 saidThankfully, Maine's GOP platform is significantly different from the Texas GOP platform... I assume this is similar with other traditionally blue states.

    You mean the Maine GOP that worked overtime to defeat gay marriage there? Oh, yes, 3 cheers for the Maine GOP! HOORAY! icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 25, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    HRC is running a petition to tell the RNC National to publicly reject the Texas Republican Party platform.

    Read the article then link to petition:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dja233
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    mpfess saidHRC is running a petition to tell the RNC National to publicly reject the Texas Republican Party platform.

    Read the article then link to petition:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dja233

    You wanna bet some money that the RNC will reject the Texas GOP party platform? The better odds would be that the RNC adopts it for themselves, as the national Republican platform. This is who they are, guys.

    Can I see a show of hands of how many of you Republicans support this stuff? And none of this crap that it's a small bunch of loonies who wrote that state party platform -- this IS the Republican Party. Like some nut jobs broke into state party headquarters one night and wrote this stuff when nobody was looking? Yeah, right...

    You published it, you own it.