The Gay High Holy Days...

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    Feb 06, 2008 2:05 AM GMT
    Ok - Some friends and I got together for a cup of coffee and were just BS'ing around and the topic came up...

    Do we (gays) have certain inviolate 'holy' days or rituals, pilgrimages, whatever... that define us as a separate 'culture'...

    A case was made for things like 'Mardi Gras' or 'Pride' (June 2icon_cool.gif; certain places like Ogunquit, P'Town, Rehoboth, Key West, P Springs, R River, etc.

    A case was also made for some of the 'Circuit' parties - The White Party, The Blue Ball, Southern Decadence, or the gay cruises, or gay days at Disney.

    But all of those places attract huge 'straight' followings, and if we are honest we are only noticeable as a small 'blip' in the larger cultures...

    Also MOST gays never get to go to MOST of those events - and if they do, then it might be a one event vacation every couple of years.

    So is there really a defining set of events or celebrations that the whole community shares?

    Among the group I was with we sort of came to the consensus that the community was just way too diverse to have any set number of common central events that was important to the majority...

    And that the events that did exist seemed to be declining in importance within the gay community.

    What do you think?
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    Feb 06, 2008 2:32 AM GMT
    You said a lot and I am not sure if you were trying to get to s specific point but you seemed to ask if

    the events that did exist seemed to be declining in importance within the gay community

    I don't know. I went to these things before but never to "define myself." Here are my thoughts ..

    I don't even drink, don't use drugs, but I like parties and festivals. I like to travel to places and if there are sexy guys there all the better for eye candy. I like any excuse to get together with friends. I like pride here in San Diego, but mostly because the weather is usually really nice then and my friends are throwing parties all weekend. Its just a fun festive time. I usually won't watch the parade unless someone I know is going to be in it.

    It's nice to meet new Gay or Gay friendly people to network. If the event is big enough you might make friends with someone in another city that you can maybe go visit when you have vacation. I usually host visitors about 6 to 8 weeks out of the year. I love to do things like that.

    The day doesn't really matter or the place. It's about the people.
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    Feb 06, 2008 3:06 AM GMT
    I used to do the entire circuit/pride thing and it just got really boring. Now I'll occasionally run around with a squirt gun up and down a parade route pride weekend, but that's about it. These days I'm more likely to celebrate Equinox or Solstice with a small group of friends or by myself with Rumi, Kabir, Ekhart, Holmes or Hafiz.
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    Feb 06, 2008 3:45 AM GMT
    Well, we have the Sydney G&L Mardi Gras down here, which is one of those things that every gay boy should do once in their lives...if that's what you mean.

    Aside from that, there seems to be a tendency in my community for a bunch of gay guys and gals to get together on Christmas night after the whole family "do".

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    Feb 06, 2008 4:32 AM GMT
    Since '99 I've been to Pride in Moncton NB, Halifax NS, or both every year but last summer when money was too tight to go. They're like pilgrimmages to me; knowing that there are still people who think we should be invisible (or worse), it's important to me that for at *least* one day a year we get a great big pile of us together in one place at the same time and say "boo! boogah-boogah! run for your lives! we're here, we're queer, be afraid-- be very afraid, because there *are* enough of us to raise hell if you really fuck with us." Pride events for me are kinda like the queer nation's version of the old USSR's big military hardware parades. They had missiles and tanks and soldiers (who now feature prominantly in so much of our porn, how queer), we have drag queens and butch lesbians and respectable gay lawyers and proctologists. The point's the same for me: this is what we've got, and there's more where this came from-- show some respect.

    Besides that, I've taken to observing the anniversary of the Stonewall riots every year by wearing my t-shirt that says "FAG" in great big block letters across the chest, and by throwing a brick and starting a tire fire in the street. hehe.. no, the brick and tire fire are a blatant lie, but it's not like I never think about it icon_smile.gif

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    Feb 06, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
    I don't have any ritual events that I attend based on gay culture or tradition...although I think it would be beneficial to making the gay community more of a presence if we could organize a celebration based upon Stonewall (June 28, 1969). I realize that many pride celebrations occure in late June, however any connections that pride celebrations have to Stonewall have been lost over the years and many of the younger gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered population have no idea what Stonewall riots were about, or that they existed.

    While I know there have been other significant events in "gay" history, this is one that is commonly attributed to starting the fight for GLBT rights and it is known all over the world. So I think it would be a good starting.

    just my opinion for what it's worth...
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    Feb 06, 2008 2:14 PM GMT
    Imperator and 9c1man-

    Very excellent point! The Stonewall Conflict & gays being jailed or killed in the middleeast or in USSR former are events REALLY worth celebrating than any circuit party ever will be.

    I think we American sometimes forget just how lucky we really are we the freedom that we have.icon_biggrin.gif