RJ Flame Wars - Have we arrived at Moderator point?

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    Feb 06, 2008 6:26 AM GMT
    Hey guys

    I read and post into the forums all the time, and lately there have been all kinds of flame wars and inappropriate posts going on.

    I know that we have had a huge amount of freedom so far, but every forum I have ever been a member of has always ended up getting to a point where Mods are required to keep the boards sane.

    Are we at that point now?
    Discuss.
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    Feb 06, 2008 6:53 AM GMT
    yep as so many trolls keep coming in and then start slinging abusive accusations at all and sundry, its just the virtual equivelant of bullying I guess.

    I regret some of the posts I have made lately as I wish I had never started to engage with trolls like that who are just argumentative and abusive for the sake of it and are incapable of a civilised debate.

    I suppose we all get our kicks out of something or other and for them its just their form of entertainment. But I wish they would take it elsewhere and stop ruining a great site
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:00 AM GMT
    IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN?

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  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 06, 2008 1:15 PM GMT
    Its very easy to say something inappropriate and harder to take the high road in light of criticism.
    We have a huge variety of men here based on all socioeconomic factors. However I think basic consideration of others is always in style for all.
  • bigguysf

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    Feb 06, 2008 4:43 PM GMT
    zimatar, the video was perfect for this... up til the singing started. icon_eek.gif
    Anyway, I'm not sure we are at the "more moderated" level just yet (I'm pretty sure there is a minimal level that does happen already). But it is amazing how the most innocuous posts will breed such contempt and venom from others.
  • art_smass

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    Feb 06, 2008 4:48 PM GMT
    I thought McGay already was the moderator.
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    Feb 06, 2008 4:55 PM GMT
    No, no, that would be the masturbator.
  • art_smass

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    Feb 06, 2008 4:57 PM GMT
    My mistake. Sorry.
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    Feb 06, 2008 5:51 PM GMT
    bigguysf saidzimatar, the video was perfect for this... up til the singing started.


    My sentiments exactly....
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    Feb 06, 2008 5:56 PM GMT
    I enjoy the heated exchanges. The only problem, I think, is when it goes personal. We should be free to call each other's ideas stupid, but not each other personally. I very much like nearly everyone I've met on RJ for one reason or another; I frequently disagree with one or another poster, and sometimes I think the ideas they push are simply crazy. But that doesn't mean THEY are crazy. Just temporarily in possession of some notions I think they'd be better off without.
  • DiverScience

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    Feb 06, 2008 6:11 PM GMT
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    Feb 06, 2008 6:18 PM GMT
    When I'm in a foul or particularly argumentative mood, I try to stay away from the keyboard. Doesn't always work, but I try.

    I agree that ugliness happens (and it does seem to happen with increasing frequency), but I still loathe the idea of a moderator. With seven thousand new members (roughly) in the last month or two, RJ seems to be experiencing some growing pains, maybe.
  • dhinkansas

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    Feb 06, 2008 6:26 PM GMT
    Why can't we all just put down our lipstick vials and get along?
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    Feb 06, 2008 6:28 PM GMT
    I would not focus on the bad vibes but, I know what you mean.
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    Feb 06, 2008 6:48 PM GMT
    I've been involved in online communities since 1997 when I worked at Google Groups (they were the property of another company at the time).

    RJ does not have a flame war problem. Trust me on that. It's very tame here.

    When we do argue among ourselves and get into petty, ancillary stuff, I'm more worried about the infighting in our community and how it looks to those not in our community. But these fights seem to stem from a older/younger rift, and our community has a particular sensitivity to the age dynamic. Plus, so many of us are so damned insecure, which is a factor.
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:04 PM GMT
    Some people think that being a bitch is as much a part of being gay as actual man on man sex. Others are just nasty bitter people with nothing better to do than bash. My experience is that the cream will rise to the top.

    And there's a whole lot of cream on this site, despite the occasional nasty thread.
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:10 PM GMT
    DJBens77 saidSome people think that being a bitch is as much a part of being gay as actual man on man sex. Others are just nasty bitter people with nothing better to do than bash. My experience is that the cream will rise to the top.

    And there's a whole lot of cream on this site, despite the occasional nasty thread.


    I'm soooo going to hold my tongue on the last part of your comment, DJ! icon_surprised.gif

    I think you're right, though: there are occasional cases of extreme *ssholism, but the more, um...difficult...posters often seem to disappear as quickly as they appear.
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:29 PM GMT
    My nomination for moderators..

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    Feb 06, 2008 7:41 PM GMT
    RJ is not has "polite" as AfterElton, but far better than a group I occasionally participate in on "MySpace" (Support Gay Marriage).

    RJ is full of guys that love sports, are probably very competitive and hate to lose, so it is not surprising to me that arguments can get started. Overall though guys have been civilized and at times funny in getting their points across.
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    Feb 06, 2008 8:07 PM GMT
    I've not noticed anything that needs a moderator. I've had occasions where I disagree with another user but nothing that I was so offended by that I would feel the need for a moderator. I think the "heated" discussions are good for keeping everyone interested and opportunities to express ones opinions.

    I'm pretty thick skinned....you'll find me on top...with the cream! LOL
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    Feb 06, 2008 8:10 PM GMT
    Hm, here's a topic for a thread:

    Double entendres: Do they cause cancer?
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    Feb 06, 2008 8:31 PM GMT
    The exchanges have certainly been somewhat disappointing, in terms of the maturity level exhibited by the participants, but I don't think we need a moderator. Moderation on websites tends to be done poorly, i.e. arbitrarily, with no transparency or accountability.

    There are more than enough decent guys on here already who can respond to trolls appropriately and more effectively than moderators could.... by debate rather than censorship. There are clear terms of service, and the site managers have historically used them when necessary.

    Remember not to feed the trolls icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 08, 2008 7:24 AM GMT
    LOL zim, from youtube is my life: "I just don't have the bigot mindset"

    lemme fix that DiverScience:

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    durr!

    methinks everybody just needs this:



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    Feb 08, 2008 7:37 AM GMT
    I agree entirely that we should be adult enough to take the punches where they land and not need moderation.

    It warms my cockles to know that most of you agree. I wasn't calling for moderators, but I have been a part of online communities who arrive at a point similar to some of the stuff we have seen lately and decide to go all School Marm and get rules and watchdog mentalities. Luckily, I don't think that will be us!
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    Apr 22, 2014 10:54 PM GMT
    Even back then, there were flame wars. We can get through this. I know we do, because I know.