sxydrkhair> Palestinian villages on which Tel Aviv is built
S1. What you mean to say is that Tel Aviv later expanded, but the original groundbreaking (photo above) was on vacant sand dunes that were purchased (as your own source admits)
S2. It's strange that your source insists on using the 1987 version of Morris' book when it is convenient while ignoring things written there and corrections which appear in the 2004 version.
While there is some merit in what the source says here:
Regarding the [Arab anti-Jewish] riots of 1920, 1921, 1929, and 1936 to 1939: each of these events is embedded in a more complicated and complex history....
S3. It's sheer hypocrisy that they attempt to take Israeli events out of context (e.g. the counter-attack on Jaffa amidst the 1947-48 Arab aggression becomes simply "indiscriminant shelling") while ignoring that nearly 1/3rd of the Arab [not yet known as "Palestinian"] population had already departed the city before that.
S4. BTW, "exiled" does not mean what they pretend, which again shows us how some arguments have little substance beyond the slogans and soundbites).
What's astonishing about samxr's post is how little of what I said he can even feigns to address:
S5. These anti-Israel spam topics aren't posted to advance peace but to demonize Israel in order to explain, rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.
S6. The lack of concern both for Israeli civilian casualties (Jewish and Arab!) as well as for the Gazans and Lebanese used as human shields reveals that they hate Israel more than they love/care-for their own brethren.
S7. Just as they are willing to sacrifice people as pawns for the cause, so to do they sacrifice the truth. Integrity isn't to the truth but to the cause, thus (as samxr has explained in an email) it's morally ok, even commendable, to lie-for-the-cause.
S8. Thus when he edits - vandalizes - a Wikipedia entry, he's just making it "more fair" (the Japanese would similarly "edit" the entry on Pearl Harbor for "fairness" by changing it to say "American anti-aircraft gunners opened fire on Japanese aircraft"....)
S9. There was no such people who considered themselves "Palestinian" (they themselves denied the concept and said they were Arabs),
S10. In the 19th century the population of western Palestine was estimated as low as 50,000 people (and in decline).
S11. Today there are 10 million people.
S12. The Jewish/Zionist argument was (and remains) that with proper development there is room for everyone.
S13. The racist/xenophobic Arab argument in the first half of the 20th century was that there was no room for Jews (yet there was room for other Arabs?).
S14. Now the Arab argument pitches that the land and population are a zero-sum game, as if for every Jew who came in an Arab was forced out and that any and every Jewish house/village built is on the ruins of what was an Arab house/village.
S15. We can see through samxr's wolf-in-sheep's-clothing when he condones rather than condemns Helen Thomas' statment that Jews can go back to Europe.
S16. Between the world wars the Arab population grew most precisely in the areas of Jewish (and British) development - Arab immigrants attracted by higher paying jobs and a better quality of life (running water, electricity, hospitals, etc).
S17. In Haifa (new port & industry) the Arab population grew 290%. In Jaffa (adjacent to Tel Aviv) 158%. In Jerusalem (where Jews pioneered development outside the old city walls, including in eastern Jerusalem) 131%.
S18. In contrast, in Nablus the Arab population grew "only" 42%.
S19. Not only do these clowns hate Israel more than they love/care-for their own people in general, they also hate Israel more than they love/care-for their own gay brethren. Really, regurgitating again the lie that one can safely be gay in "Palestine"?! Gay people flee from "Palestine" to "oppressive" Israel!
S20. Does anyone trust a guy who is an apologist for Hamas and Hizbullah and attempts to hitch his wagon to the Al Qaida train wreck (or did they blow up that train)?
S21. Someone who can't even tell the truth about the status of gay rights in Israel and "Palestine"?
S22. Even more perplexing is samxr's silence regarding the purported subject of this forum topic, the boycott.
Thus we have confirmed that the real purpose isn't to discuss a "boycott" but just another anti-Israel troll-fest.
Samxr and the usual suspects won't be able to honestly address any of thte above points, so let's focus on the purporded topic:You want to boycott Israel? Fine; turn off your computer (many parts of which were developed in Israel, from CPUs to the OS and apps) and go back to your cave (don't bother with your cell phone, either, it's also based on Israeli technology).
We know that's not going to happen, and thus the hypocrisy of the posters is revealed.
It's about making anti-Israel noise (perhaps in part due to the lack of signal/substance).
sxydrkhair> [continues to use the computer to spam anti-Israel nonsense]