Love handles

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    Feb 06, 2008 6:06 PM GMT
    Is there an exercise that specifically targets the "love handles" in the back area? I've been doing 30min of cardio, 3-4 days a week, plus oblique exercises, but I can't seem to get rid of the "love handles". Should I be increasing my cardio workouts and focus more on diet as well? Any info would help....
  • DiverScience

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    Feb 06, 2008 6:09 PM GMT
    No. Spot reduction is a myth. MYYYYYYTH. One of the biggest.

    Sorry, wish it weren't.

    That's one of the places men tend to lose fat from last. Decrease your caloric intake and increase your caloric burn. You can do this by eating better, or by eating less, and by doing more cardio or more lifting, or more running around in circles flailing your arms like a chicken.
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    Feb 06, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
    DiverScience saidYou can do this by eating better, or by eating less, and by doing more cardio or more lifting, or more running around in circles flailing your arms like a chicken.


    Or by doing the Duck Dance oh, say, 40 times a day.
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    Feb 06, 2008 6:24 PM GMT
    NNJfitandbi saidDiverScience is correct. But core strenghtening helps alot with keeping your back straight and abs firm.


    None of which will help your love handles. If your gut hangs out despite being lean, however, core strengthening is definitely the way to go.

    And in general, core strengthening is always good.
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:41 PM GMT
    Lurve Handles ? What are they?


    Buy a Hula Hoop?
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:51 PM GMT
    Hoola Hoop isn't bad cardio, all things considered, and it's good for your core, as well as posture and muscle control.

    A love handles, those horrid things that do their best to turn you into a muffin top and obscure your Adonis' belt. Bane of men everywhere.
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    Feb 06, 2008 7:54 PM GMT
    DiverScience saidHoola Hoop isn't bad cardio, all things considered, and it's good for your core, as well as posture and muscle control.

    A love handles, those horrid things that do their best to turn you into a muffin top and obscure your Adonis' belt. Bane of men everywhere.


    What about Twist again like we did last summer?


    But sad to say you would not remember that? And judging by those pic's of yours you will never have a Love Handle?##

    Lurve the cowboy hat!!
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    Feb 06, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    core strengthening is great, however may 'thicken' rather than reduce the midsection. There's also some debate if over doing the core may result in injuries.
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    Feb 06, 2008 8:21 PM GMT
    Okay, here's a discussion grenade. What about surgical intervention/lipo?
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    Feb 06, 2008 8:43 PM GMT
    Love handles and stomachs seem to be the places on the body where men store fat even after it's considerably less noticable elsewhere.

    Alas, the dull arithmatic is this: consume less energy than you use, and eventually you'll see them. Weights can help you reduce the corollary to fat reduction which is muscle loss, and since muscle burns calories, more muscle means faster energy consumption.

    Keep at it dude... my apollo's belt is now totally visible and I'm working at getting my (visible) six pack to be *defined*. It seems to take ages, but it *does* happen. Slow progress is best anyway so your body doesn't think you're starving and try to compensate drastically.

    Sugical intervention is only useful for the morbidly obese. If you're pretty fit already, you need to work on your nutrition and exercise regime rather than anything else.. in your case the exercise you've been doing sounds good so you ought to check your diet.

    [of course, since I don't have a medical or sports science degree, please defer to those that do]
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    Feb 06, 2008 9:25 PM GMT
    RBY71 saidOkay, here's a discussion grenade. What about surgical intervention?


    save that for 35 stone plus people who have loose skin and it wont stop them getting back there without major drastic irreversible surgery

    As for taking ages well if you have the run run run mentality to get the weight off then yes it will take twice as long

    If not a diet which is structured and not rigid, + weights + hydration will get you there quicker than anything



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    Feb 06, 2008 9:37 PM GMT
    Actually, plastic surgery is NOT for the morbidly obese. in fact, board certified surgeons won't even DO plastic surgery on the obese as there are many possible complications that can arise during surgery, especially reactions to anaesthesia.

    If you can't get rid of them through diet and exercise and your doctor believes you're a good candidate, then get rid of them if they bother you so much. Any more, it ain't no big thang.
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    Feb 06, 2008 9:41 PM GMT
    I doubt any sane doctor or legitimate one would take you on other than a private plastic surgeon just after your hard earned cash.

    Strengthening your mid section/core will do bugger all by the way to reduce love handles.

    Just get your diet sorted increase the hydration and lift heavy hard and to failure, cut back on the running and sink your efforts into the weights up to 4 sessions a week. Build up the classic X frame to create the visual illusion of broader shoulders stronger legs and let your diet take care of that flab not exercise as its an extremely inefficient way of going about it
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    Feb 06, 2008 9:45 PM GMT
    and if you want a temporary feel good exercise that will actually strengthen the obliques you cant actually beat woodchoppers its like an instant girdle feeling :-)
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    Feb 06, 2008 9:55 PM GMT
    Chances are your obliques are developed all they need to be to look great. I think if you work them too much you'll just end up thick waisted. In that regard, I've never even done any weighted exercises at all for abs. I developed mine years ago but it has only been in the past few months that they really began to reveal themselves...the same goes for finally loosing that lower back fat. Why? Diet, diet, diet icon_smile.gif

    I did nothing new with my workouts or cardio. You're going to get way more "bang for your buck" from your diet. It sucks but that's just how it is.
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    Feb 06, 2008 9:59 PM GMT
    bwg77 said It sucks but that's just how it is.


    amen to that

    just pick an approach that is flexible and suits your current eating style not an off the shelf atkins style diet which is not a natural way to eat. Go for minimal calories but with food density ie this is why fat needs to be low in your diet max aim is 15% so forget about nuts, whole eggs etc it just aint worth the sacrifice of fullness.

    Eating 500 calories less takes seconds running it off takes about 40 minutes in which you could have done your lifting easily.
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    Feb 07, 2008 2:19 AM GMT
    I've been skinny and i've been chubby, but even when I was a 29 inch waist I had love handles. After seeing a dateline special on lipo, I called and got a consult and away i went to surgery. That was 10 years ago and I have never regretted it. I felt like I could have stair stepped my way to the stars and never seen the results I got from lipo. Good luck in your quest to get rid of them.

  • Feb 07, 2008 2:34 AM GMT
    it's all diet. watch your sugars and carbs. only eat good healthy carbs and limit your refined sugars. spot reduction is a myth. it's not possible. don't starve yourself because your body will go into starvation mode and actually start storing fat "in case of emergency". If you do high intensity interval work (there is a HUGE article in this month's Muscle and Fitness magazine about it) it'll target fat burning and you'll gain a bunch of great lean muscle. I would also suggest doing a really tough circuit with weights and pullups and pushups that works out your full body... do about 7 different exercises back to back to back limiting rest periods to keep your heart rate up and you will burn fat and make your heart healthy. Repeat this cycle or circuit 3 times. if you aren't sweating your BUTT OFF and breathing hard you're either resting too long or not working hard enough or both. you should feel like you could ALMOST pass out or throw up. and you should NOT be able to say a sentence without breathing half way through it if someone is working out with you or interrupting your incredible workout. let me know how it goes!

    PS I live by this advice.... so I know it works!
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    Feb 07, 2008 2:57 AM GMT
    "will do bugger all by the way" ... icon_eek.gif... what the hell does that mean?

    This isnt about love handles, per se.

    I am currently working on fixing my posture problem of lordosis. I have to relax the lower back muscles to allow the spine to straighten up. Increase the abdominal strength to hold the inside up and back as the spine straightens. And increase my core strength to help hold the body erect.

    My PT has me doing several exercises, which I will describe if anyone is at all interested.
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    Feb 07, 2008 7:37 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]"will do bugger all by the way" ... icon_eek.gif... what the hell does that mean?

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    It means that tightening the core muscles will improve posture and strength but will not burn sufficient fat or excess intercellular water to rid you of the dreaded love handles
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    Feb 09, 2008 3:22 PM GMT
    I'm by no means a personal trainer...& don't have abs per se - however from all the lifting I've been doing, eating more meals (to increase metabolism) w/ alot of protien & carbs, My CORE upper body is gettin Tight & Toned from doin' alot of squats/front squats/dead lifts, etc...& I haven't done any cardio in about a month or so.

    Guess I'd agree to the 'core training'..
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    Feb 09, 2008 3:45 PM GMT
    OK so I'm a personal trainer from Delaware and here's my take on Luv Handles icon_biggrin.gif

    Yeah, were the "Luv Handle" actually is, thats your waist line and there is actually NO REAL MUSCLE there, it's just mainly a grroup of ligiments,tendons, and other various things in your body. So how do I get rid of this stubbern fat you ask?

    Easy, I suggest the reverse oblique exercise and do the side plank, thats what I used for amazing results!!icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 09, 2008 3:47 PM GMT
    FireHott2005 saidOK so I'm a personal trainer from Delaware and here's my take on Luv Handles icon_biggrin.gif

    Yeah, were the "Luv Handle" actually is, thats your waist line and there is actually NO REAL MUSCLE there, it's just mainly a grroup of ligiments,tendons, and other various things in your body. So how do I get rid of this stubbern fat you ask?

    Easy, I suggest the reverse oblique exercise and do the side plank, thats what I used for amazing results!!icon_cool.gif


    well if you are a personal trainer who ever gave yuo your qualification needs shooting!

    Youd need to do 200,000 of them to make any noticeable difference its diet diet diet or run run run the choice is yours
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    Feb 09, 2008 4:25 PM GMT
    I think everything has already been said. When I have been my most cut it was from doing lots of cardio. I actually was doing 45 to 60 mins 5 days a week. I know that sounds crazy, but the exercise bikes had tv's on them so I would just keep going while watching a program .. lol. I also used some fat burners (my fav are hot-rox and one called amp) but I stopped because I was losing too much muscle too.

    One thing I thing that some people don't realize is that if you build too much muscle around your waist by using weights for situps, you can end up making yourself look bigger there. I think it depends on your hip to waist ratio.

    I think your diet and cardio plan is probably best (maybe some supplements).
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    Feb 09, 2008 4:55 PM GMT
    Ok - So here is the thing...

    God blessed some people with excellent genetics, other people ended up with the kitchen scraps.

    The thing is you're 33 already, your basal metabolic rate slows down 10% every decade after age 30.

    From your photo's you look good for your age.

    But it's next to impossible for you to look like a totally ripped and shredded 19-21 yo. anymore. Not naturally anyway. And it will become increasingly more difficult. Hey - I'm 45; think how I feel. icon_lol.gif

    Much of it really is finding the right balance of natural diet and exercise to get your body as healthy as you can be. But at age 33, that probably means working 10+ % harder at it than you did when you were 23 - IF YOU WERE PERFECT THEN. At age 43 it will mean working roughly 30% harder - JUST TO MAINTAIN.

    Do your best with what you've got. Eat healthy, get plenty of sleep, exercise.

    I am not saying don't work on you 'love handles', what I am saying is worry about the important stuff, don't sweat the small stuff.

    Much of the rest of it is self perception and vanity.