Republicans to CRIMINALIZE being gay.

  • SkyMiles

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    Jul 02, 2010 3:43 AM GMT
    ...pretty much speaks for itself...


    Texas Republicans Want To Criminalize Being GayOn Top Magazine | 2010-06-23 11:21:47

    A party platform approved last week by Texas Republicans meeting at their annual convention calls for the criminalization of being gay
    A party platform approved last week by Texas Republicans meeting at their annual convention calls for the criminalization of being gay.

    Calling being gay “contrary” to American ideals, the Texas GOP's 2010 State Republican Party Platform comes out swinging on all fronts against gay men and lesbians. The document rails against being gay, rejects the idea of families headed by gay couples and is opposed to gay rights, including gay marriage, adoption of children by gay couples and equal workplace benefits for the spouses of gay employees.

    The party also wants free reign to bash gays, saying “We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.”

    The platform also is critical of gay men and lesbians marrying, urging Congress and state legislatures to approve constitutional amendments banning gay marriage and supports making it a felony “to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple and for any civil official to perform a marriage ceremony for such.”

    And by coming out against the legalization of sodomy, the Texas GOP is advocating for the criminalization of being gay.

    The Supreme Court's 2003 Lawrence v. Texas ruling declared sodomy laws to be unconstitutional. Texas' sodomy law, enacted in 1860, prescribed a five to 15 year prison term for violators.


  • calibro

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    Jul 02, 2010 5:48 AM GMT
    montana did the same thing too
  • t0theheights

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    Jul 02, 2010 5:51 AM GMT
    Not at all shocked by this at this point -- certainly no more so than by the mindless conservative idealogues and self-haters on here who will STILL come to the defense of the GOP. Disgusting...
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    Jul 02, 2010 5:52 AM GMT
    Are they fuckin' seriously stupid?
    What are they planning next, bring back slavery to the black population?
    Did they forget what DECADE They're in?!
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    Jul 02, 2010 5:53 AM GMT
    I can't believe we as a society in 2010 would propose such a ridiculous law! Don't the conservatives in Texas have other things to do than to bash gays and lesbians for being who they are? We have rights too!
  • tbeaux

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    Jul 02, 2010 5:55 AM GMT
    They also forget that they lost the Lawrence vs. Texas case. By the way, more heterosexual people anal fuck more than gay men do.
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    Jul 02, 2010 5:55 AM GMT
    <<<<<<< *shakes and nods head*

    I'm laughing my head off because I am now a criminal. Oh well. Go big or go home I always say.

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    Jul 02, 2010 5:56 AM GMT
    Well, it is obvious the Texan Republicans and the Montanan Republicans have forgotten a little Supreme Court ruling that wipes out the criminalization of gays.

    A little reminder:

    Lawrence & Garner vs the State of Texas

    http://www.sodomylaws.org/lawrence/lawrence.htm

    Let the lawsuit filing begin!
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    Jul 02, 2010 5:56 AM GMT
    If the feds ever legalize gay marriage nationwide, Tx would have to secede to enforce their hate law.

    I guess it's true...the only things from Texas are steers and queers, and the politicians are so fucking gay that they want to make being gay illegal so they can have jail sex with all the gay guys in town.

    I wonder if it'll be an open cell where all the guys sleep and shower together and stuff? That would be kinda hot. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 02, 2010 5:59 AM GMT
    It's so sad that at this day and age that is how this country still thinks. Why does the government insist on pushing antiquated laws and rules that don't apply to the way people live today. So if being gay is to be illegal what are gay men supposed to do, start fucking women? Or suck dick secretly like all the closeted Republicans do?
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    Jul 02, 2010 6:04 AM GMT
    They're not trying to criminalize being gay, they're trying to criminalize buttsecks. I have female friends who have buttsecks way more than I do... then again, that's not hard since in my case it's never, but I digress. It's not done out of hatred, its done out of a certain religious conviction that leftists perceive as hatred, as well as deeply encultured homophobia in the south.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 02, 2010 6:05 AM GMT
    I refuse to get myself all worked up over this kind of silly stuff. They can have whatever "platform" they want -- but not gonna happen.
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    Jul 02, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
    http://static.texastribune.org/media/documents/FINAL_2010_STATE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf

    Here's a link to the Platform, provided by the Texas Tribune. Page 7 has the statement on homosexuality:

    "We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values."

    They go on to mention it in several other sections.

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    Jul 02, 2010 9:07 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI refuse to get myself all worked up over this kind of silly stuff. They can have whatever "platform" they want -- but not gonna happen.


    That's because you are a defult consevrative... and live by Reagan's 11th Commandment:

    "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."
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    Jul 02, 2010 9:49 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    I refuse to get myself all worked up over this kind of silly stuff. They can have whatever "platform" they want -- but not gonna happen.



    This is a fine example of what bothers me about so many gay Republicans. They don't get worked up over issues from their own party that could have a direct, negative impact on their lives.

    Just ignore it because it's not going to happen? Are you that blind?
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    Jul 02, 2010 9:59 AM GMT
    reppaT said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    I refuse to get myself all worked up over this kind of silly stuff. They can have whatever "platform" they want -- but not gonna happen.



    This is a fine example of what bothers me about so many gay Republicans. They don't get worked up over issues from their own party that could have a direct, negative impact on their lives.

    Just ignore it because it's not going to happen? Are you that blind?



    But, they sure get worked up when someone mentions raising their taxes.

    Ignorance is bliss, isn't it...

  • GQjock

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    Jul 02, 2010 10:23 AM GMT
    Guns God and Gays

    Sure as all hell gets those knuckle draggers worked up into a froth then there doesn't it?

    Are we gonna be rounded up and put in prison? No we're not
    But it shows you How extreme the republican party has become and how we NEED esp as gay men never ever to allow them to gain any type of power beyond local or regional like they are now

  • darkeyedresol...

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    Jul 02, 2010 10:33 AM GMT
    Its not about ignoring the issue, its about realizing how pointless it is. Does anyone here actually know their state party platform? And how many regular people do you think know their state's party platform?

    You want to find me some high ranking Texas Republicans who say they are hundred percent behind this platform? Either of the Bushes, Rove, so on.

    Party Platforms are crafted by activists and voted on by activists not by the average voter. That is basically the argument Hillary Clinton made about party caucuses, and its the right way the look at it.

    Actually for everyone here that likes to bitch about how bad gay republicans are, We have actually aren't at all happy about it. We realize, more so than those of you who are Democrat voters, the problems we have in our party.

    I am surprised by Montana, as I considered it to have a more libertarian core.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 02, 2010 11:18 AM GMT
    Actually for everyone here that likes to bitch about how bad gay republicans are

    Gay republicans aren't Bad ...... misinformed, unwilling to see reality maybe
    but not bad

    When a group of people keeps telling you that you're a pariah and that you don't belong ..... believe them
    When the same group of people try to pass laws that exclude you from the same freedoms everyone in this country enjoy? Take them at their word

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    Jul 02, 2010 11:20 AM GMT
    darkeyedresolve saidIts not about ignoring the issue, its about realizing how pointless it is. Does anyone here actually know their state party platform? And how many regular people do you think know their state's party platform?

    You want to find me some high ranking Texas Republicans who say they are hundred percent behind this platform? Either of the Bushes, Rove, so on.

    Party Platforms are crafted by activists and voted on by activists not by the average voter. That is basically the argument Hillary Clinton made about party caucuses, and its the right way the look at it.

    Actually for everyone here that likes to bitch about how bad gay republicans are, We have actually aren't at all happy about it. We realize, more so than those of you who are Democrat voters, the problems we have in our party.

    I am surprised by Montana, as I considered it to have a more libertarian core.


    It doesn't matter how many high ranking politicians agree with the platform. I'm fairly certain a large minority (possibly small majority) of Republicans do agree with many of the positions on social issues as stated by the Texas GOP.

    These issues really aren't that big in the "grand scheme" of things, but stuff like this is deserving of criticism. What do RJ GOPers do instead? Do they also agree with their liberal counterparts and condemn the disgusting rhetoric in these state GOP platforms? Do they offer solutions of how to divorce the GOP from the radical right?

    No they don't. They constantly bitch about "big government" on the liberal side while hypocritically ignoring the oppresive views of their own party (not just on gay rights either: women's rights, seperation of church and state, other religious issues, creationism, etc.).

    They make excuses and exceptions and/or try and downplay the significance of incidences like this. Gay GOPers offer such little criticism of the GOP's social views... it's aggravating. It's partisan politics.
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    Jul 02, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
    Well, for sure one of these days, one of these Texan legislators would be somewhere inside a stall in an airport tapping his foot.

    These legislators, needless to say are ignorant.

    I wish them diarrhea for life (Right after getting fucked up their asses, which I assume they would have enjoyed).
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    Jul 02, 2010 2:36 PM GMT
    tbakes18 saidThey also forget that they lost the Lawrence vs. Texas case. By the way, more heterosexual people anal fuck more than gay men do.

    They want to revisit that case. And with the present right-wing US Supreme Court, thanks to Reagan and the Bushes, they would win.
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    Jul 02, 2010 2:36 PM GMT
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    darkeyedresolve saidIts not about ignoring the issue, its about realizing how pointless it is. Does anyone here actually know their state party platform? And how many regular people do you think know their state's party platform?

    You want to find me some high ranking Texas Republicans who say they are hundred percent behind this platform? Either of the Bushes, Rove, so on.

    Party Platforms are crafted by activists and voted on by activists not by the average voter. That is basically the argument Hillary Clinton made about party caucuses, and its the right way the look at it.

    Actually for everyone here that likes to bitch about how bad gay republicans are, We have actually aren't at all happy about it. We realize, more so than those of you who are Democrat voters, the problems we have in our party.

    I am surprised by Montana, as I considered it to have a more libertarian core.


    It doesn't matter how many high ranking politicians agree with the platform. I'm fairly certain a large minority (possibly small majority) of Republicans do agree with many of the positions on social issues as stated by the Texas GOP.

    These issues really aren't that big in the "grand scheme" of things, but stuff like this is deserving of criticism. What do RJ GOPers do instead? Do they also agree with their liberal counterparts and condemn the disgusting rhetoric in these state GOP platforms? Do they offer solutions of how to divorce the GOP from the radical right?

    No they don't. They constantly bitch about "big government" on the liberal side while hypocritically ignoring the oppresive views of their own party (not just on gay rights either: women's rights, seperation of church and state, other religious issues, creationism, etc.).

    They make excuses and exceptions and/or try and downplay the significance of incidences like this. Gay GOPers offer such little criticism of the GOP's social views... it's aggravating. It's partisan politics.

    I don't think gays who are Republicans ignore the more extreme positions within the party, though it may not be discussed much on RJ. The decisions on which candidates to support in primaries are one way to influence the party.

    But consider this - the Republican pres candidate, John McCain, was one of the more moderate Republicans. After he lost, although there were some determined to work against the administration, many were willing to be supportive. But now the perception among Republicans is the administration (BO, Reid, and Pelosi) is extremely divisive. That divisiveness has in turn, energized the more conservative elements of the Republican party, making it more difficult for Republican moderates. In other words, divisiveness (or its perception) breeds more divisiveness, and makes it hard for moderates to prevail.
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    Jul 02, 2010 2:41 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidFor the headline purists out there, to satisfy you, the headline should have read:

    Some Texas Republicans Who Do Not Hold Elected Office Want to Criminalize Being Gay.

    Except, this is what Texas Republicans must now campaign on. Their candidates must accept this platform, or risk losing Party support. That's what is means to belong to a party, and to have its endorsement.

    So do you see any Republican office holders or candidates REJECTING this platform, or expressing any objections to it? Until they do, your comment is meaningless.

    And BTW, why are you defending a party that created this anti-gay platform? Please explain yourself...
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    Jul 02, 2010 2:46 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidBut consider this - the Republican pres candidate, John McCain, was one of the more moderate Republicans. After he lost, although there were some determined to work against the administration, many were willing to be supportive. But now the perception among Republicans is the administration (BO, Reid, and Pelosi) is extremely divisive. That divisiveness has in turn, energized the more conservative elements of the Republican party, making it more difficult for Republican moderates. In other words, divisiveness (or its perception) breeds more divisiveness, and makes it hard for moderates to prevail.

    Now that's turning logic on its head. (And if McCain was a "Moderate" what does that make the other Republicans?) The Party of No, that declared even before Obama was sworn in, that they would oppose him at every turn, now says the divisiveness in Congress is due to the Democratic leadership???

    What actually energized Conservative forces was a Black man becoming the first US President. That is what enrages them, and what drives the Teabagger movement -- pure racism. Be careful what you're buying into, and trying to sell here.