Problem! Cant Build Up Muscle!

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    Jul 02, 2010 3:10 PM GMT
    So ive been working out for over a year,3 times a week with a trainer,and for some reason i dont feel like im building up my muscle,

    i eat enough protein,i have 2 whey protein shakes a day,besides for 3 meals a day,

    i take creatine and carnatine,i still feel fatigued during workouts,and i dont see a big muscle growth,

    what am i doing wrong? could it be a thyroid or autoimmune problem?

    also has anyone heard of "DIM" its a natural supplement of some kind?

    any help would be appreciated.
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    Jul 02, 2010 6:03 PM GMT
    Judging by your height & weight, you could be building muscle and just not notice it. I'm in the same boat as you, trying to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. It's a delicate and time consuming project.

    I rushed it several years ago and got very lean, but too fast. My skin was saggy as a result. This time I'm going slow with it so the skin has time to readjust to the new size.
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    Jul 02, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
    GEM12 said3 meals a day,


    Ah. :-)

    You do not eat enough. Begin to ramp up clean calories each week until you start to gain weight.
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    Jul 02, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
    thnx for the response ok,so how much do i need to eat a day,

    and do u have any other suggestions?
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    Jul 02, 2010 11:50 PM GMT
    If you're not interested in doing bulk/cut cycles, I'd just slowly raise your calories a day each week (say, 250 clean cals more a day each week) until you start seeing gains.

    Other than that, just keep lifting hard :-)
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    Jul 04, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    thnx for the suggestion^

    btw i recently lost 80 pds,

    and im trying to get my stomach as in shape as possible,anyone have any tips
    ?
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    Jul 04, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
    I worked out with a trainer for a few months and freaking EXPLODED. People started accusing me of using steroids (nope). You should look for a new trainer
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    Jul 04, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
    ...and listen to UFJockNerd. To gain muscle you have to eat A LOT of clean food.
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    Jul 04, 2010 6:20 PM GMT
    GEM12 said
    and im trying to get my stomach as in shape as possible,anyone have any tips
    ?


    Fitness is about your whole body, not just your abs. :-) Try to avoid fixation on particular body parts in favor of whole-body fitness. Otherwise you end up with things like overdeveloped abs & chest (and resultant poor posture), or lightbulb syndrome (overdeveloped chest, skinny-ass legs).
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    Jul 04, 2010 9:00 PM GMT
    eat lots of small "meals". One trick I like is make a normal meal and divide it in two small portions... You really have to eat FAR more than you think.
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    Jul 04, 2010 9:02 PM GMT
    Get your money back from the trainer.

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    Jul 04, 2010 9:18 PM GMT
    sdgman saidI worked out with a trainer for a few months and freaking EXPLODED. People started accusing me of using steroids (nope). You should look for a new trainer
    I am glad you got better! We like you all in one piece icon_biggrin.gif

  • Jul 04, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
    What's the current info on creatine, by the way? They used to say it was dangerous for your kidneys, and that it essentially made your muscles retain more water. Does anyone if that's actually true or not?
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    Jul 05, 2010 12:13 AM GMT
    multisportmansf saidWhat's the current info on creatine, by the way? They used to say it was dangerous for your kidneys, and that it essentially made your muscles retain more water. Does anyone if that's actually true or not?


    It's fine if you cycle on and off and drink LOTS of water (as in, one to two gallons). It does give your muscles water bloat but research consistently supports that it aids strength gains and hypertrophy.
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    Jul 05, 2010 12:30 AM GMT
    GEM12 saidSo ive been working out for over a year,3 times a week with a trainer,and for some reason i dont feel like im building up my muscle,

    i eat enough protein,i have 2 whey protein shakes a day,besides for 3 meals a day,

    i take creatine and carnatine,i still feel fatigued during workouts,and i dont see a big muscle growth,

    what am i doing wrong? could it be a thyroid or autoimmune problem?

    also has anyone heard of "DIM" its a natural supplement of some kind?

    any help would be appreciated.


    I'm confused here. Why do you have all of these questions when you've been working out 3 times a week with a trainer? icon_eek.gif
    Don't you ask your trainer these things? icon_confused.gif
    What does he or she tell you?
    But if you have seriously been working with a trainer 3 times a week for a year and have seen NO results, you need a new trainer.
    A new mental attitude will do wonders for you. A new trainer may just be the thing you need mentally and physically!! (And since you have been working out for a year, you should be going to the gym more than 3 times a week.) Good luck!!
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    Jul 05, 2010 12:35 AM GMT
    Wait a second....I just looked at your profile. You are 5'9" with a 36" waist? And you list yourself as defined? icon_eek.gif
    Something is not adding up here.
    You say you have been working with a trainer 3 times a week? Have you two just been sitting there and chatting or something? icon_mad.gificon_rolleyes.gif
    -Keith
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    OP's Stats as of 8:30 4. July. '10:

    Build: Defined
    Height: 5' 9''
    Weight: 182 lbs
    Waist: 36 inches
    Chest:
    Arms:
    Hair color: Black
    Eye color: Brown
    Ethnicity: White
    My gym:
    Weight training: 3 times per week
    60 minutes per session
    Cardio training: 6 times per week
    20 minutes per session
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    Musclequest said
    GEM12 saidSo ive been working out for over a year,3 times a week with a trainer,and for some reason i dont feel like im building up my muscle,

    i eat enough protein,i have 2 whey protein shakes a day,besides for 3 meals a day,

    i take creatine and carnatine,i still feel fatigued during workouts,and i dont see a big muscle growth,

    what am i doing wrong? could it be a thyroid or autoimmune problem?

    also has anyone heard of "DIM" its a natural supplement of some kind?

    any help would be appreciated.


    I'm confused here. Why do you have all of these questions when you've been working out 3 times a week with a trainer? icon_eek.gif
    Don't you ask your trainer these things? icon_confused.gif
    What does he or she tell you?
    But if you have seriously been working with a trainer 3 times a week for a year and have seen NO results, you need a new trainer.
    A new mental attitude will do wonders for you. A new trainer may just be the thing you need mentally and physically!! (And since you have been working out for a year, you should be going to the gym more than 3 times a week.) Good luck!!
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    well i have seen results,definitely,

    maybe im just expecting too much for the amount of time i work out,i have spoken to my trainer about this,but i want to hear other opinions too,to see if hes giving me good advice or not.
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    Musclequest saidWait a second....I just looked at your profile. You are 5'9" with a 36" waist? And you list yourself as defined? icon_eek.gif
    Something is not adding up here.
    You say you have been working with a trainer 3 times a week? Have you two just been sitting there and chatting or something? icon_mad.gificon_rolleyes.gif
    -Keith
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    OP's Stats as of 8:30 4. July. '10:

    Build: Defined
    Height: 5' 9''
    Weight: 182 lbs
    Waist: 36 inches
    Chest:
    Arms:
    Hair color: Black
    Eye color: Brown
    Ethnicity: White
    My gym:
    Weight training: 3 times per week
    60 minutes per session
    Cardio training: 6 times per week
    20 minutes per session
    well im naturally built big,so miy ideal weight is 180 pds...so base it off that weight.although im not tall.
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:26 PM GMT
    If you are 5'9" and 182 lbs, then you should be already a big muscle boy, if the weight is muscle.

    If you are not a big muscle boy at that weight, then it is not muscle but fat, and you will get better results by cutting the fat down. This will make the muscle more visible and make you look more muscular.
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
    Biggest mistake of a low gainer is calories. They feel like they are eating enough... Fortunately your metabolism is your worst ennemy. My body building mates used to eat until they get that gag feeling which I dont recommend but thatts the idea. You have to eat and make sure its good nutritious stuff so you dont get too much fat along the process

    NOOOO Cardio - when you see that you need some cardio maybe once a week. Your Goal should be to train to build. Your entire concept needs to revolve around that. Once you are at a certain size then you can play around with how you want it.
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
    GEM12 saidSo ive been working out for over a year,3 times a week with a trainer,and for some reason i dont feel like im building up my muscle,

    i eat enough protein,i have 2 whey protein shakes a day,besides for 3 meals a day,

    i take creatine and carnatine,i still feel fatigued during workouts,and i dont see a big muscle growth,

    what am i doing wrong? could it be a thyroid or autoimmune problem?

    also has anyone heard of "DIM" its a natural supplement of some kind?

    any help would be appreciated.


    Why are you paying a trainer, and ending up here asking questions?

    You don't talk about what, if any, progress, that you've made, and fail to state hard numbers.

    Fatigue is generally a sign you aren't eating enough, or that you've aren't getting enough rest, but, it could be lots of things.

    You'll need to do this: start paying attention to detail. How much did you eat? How do your calories break out? When did you train? What did you do? How did you feel? What's your weight and body composition from point A to point B.

    Once you learn attention to detail, whether it's constructing a proper sentence online, or monitoring every facet of your training, you'll be able to help others to help you, or, more able to help yourself.

    Get all your facts together and come back in a month.
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    Jul 05, 2010 8:19 PM GMT
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    GEM12 saidSo ive been working out for over a year,3 times a week with a trainer,and for some reason i dont feel like im building up my muscle,

    i eat enough protein,i have 2 whey protein shakes a day,besides for 3 meals a day,

    i take creatine and carnatine,i still feel fatigued during workouts,and i dont see a big muscle growth,

    what am i doing wrong? could it be a thyroid or autoimmune problem?

    also has anyone heard of "DIM" its a natural supplement of some kind?

    any help would be appreciated.


    Why are you paying a trainer, and ending up here asking questions?

    You don't talk about what, if any, progress, that you've made, and fail to state hard numbers.

    Fatigue is generally a sign you aren't eating enough, or that you've aren't getting enough rest, but, it could be lots of things.

    You'll need to do this: start paying attention to detail. How much did you eat? How your calories break out? When did you train? What did you do? How did you feel? What's your weight and body composition from point A to point B.

    Once you learn attention to detail, whether it's constructing a proper sentence online, or monitoring every facet of your training, you'll be able to help others to help you, or, more able to help yourself.

    Get all your facts together and come back in a month.



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    UFJocknerd said
    multisportmansf saidWhat's the current info on creatine, by the way? They used to say it was dangerous for your kidneys, and that it essentially made your muscles retain more water. Does anyone if that's actually true or not?


    It's fine if you cycle on and off and drink LOTS of water (as in, one to two gallons). It does give your muscles water bloat but research consistently supports that it aids strength gains and hypertrophy.


    Thanks for that info, UFJocknerd...

    Hadn't heard about the cycling on and off--I'll research that a bit....
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    Jul 06, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    thanx for all the help and suggestions guys.