Gay Pride Marches - An Embarrassment?

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    Jul 03, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    London Pride 2010 is upon us. Am I alone in finding the whole gay pride marching thing a huge embarrassment? I consider myself pretty tolerant, but I find myself resenting the fact that the loudest and most outrageous gay people get the most publicity and therefore perpetuate the effete and roucous gay stereotype. Am I a heretic?
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:24 PM GMT
    earlier today, as i watched the world go by from the huge window of my fav coffee shop here in this gay friendly new orleans neighborhood of marigny, i was thinking that so many of the gay guys i know in this part of town would pass for "normal" in the rest of the world and would look totally out of place at those tacky, flambouyant "gay pride" parades. icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:25 PM GMT
    First, exhibit A

    A straight event -

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    Jul 03, 2010 8:31 PM GMT
    Exhibit B ...another straight event, Mardi Gras in New Orleans





    Shall we post more?
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    I would never find pride an embarassment. The people in the parade are just being themselves and there is nothing wrong with that. I feel that pride shows that there are a huge mix of types of gay people. My opinion completely changed of gay people once I attended my first pride. I use to think that all gay people were feminin, whores, and immoral. That's how I was raised even though I was gay. After attending my first pride, I realized that that wasn't the case, my confidence level and self worth sky rocketted. You should never find anyone in pride to be an embarrassment because you are judging which is wrong regardless of what the person is doing or looks like. If you are going to judge those in the parade or at pride, then it makes it ok people to judge gay people regardless of who they are. Everyone just needs to learn to not judge. As long as the person is happy with themselves, then they should be free to do what they want. The world would be a better place if people would just care about themselves instead of caring what other people should be.
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    Hmm.... why, we think we shall!


    Pimps n hos ...my my what a sober display of straight society.

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    Jul 03, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
    backinEU saidI hate gay pride - there is nothing to be proud of when the entire gay pride parade is a tacky show of naked bodies and sexual freedom. In NYC its even worse - they hand out free condoms and information on HIV testing services on gay pride day.... this only gives out ONE image of gay men - dirty diseased whores who care for nothing else besides sex.


    Free condoms and HIV info? What is the world coming to? Oh, the humanity!
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
    UrsaMajor saidFuck you


    Not a very convincing arguement. I used to feel the same way... until some RJers showed me another way at looking at Pride.

    Be kind and rational....
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
    Oy, here we go again. The self-loathing train is boarding and leaving the station.

    FUCK YOU.


    Mil8 saidLondon Pride 2010 is upon us. Am I alone in finding the whole gay pride marching thing a huge embarrassment? I consider myself pretty tolerant, but I find myself resenting the fact that the loudest and most outrageous gay people get the most publicity and therefore perpetuate the effete and roucous gay stereotype. Am I a heretic?
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
    YOU TOO

    backinEU saidI hate gay pride - there is nothing to be proud of when the entire gay pride parade is a tacky show of naked bodies and sexual freedom. In NYC its even worse - they hand out free condoms and information on HIV testing services on gay pride day.... this only gives out ONE image of gay men - dirty diseased whores who care for nothing else besides sex.
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
    While I haven't seen many "Pride Events", I've seen Pride in Toronto and it was pretty awesome. I'd never seen anything like it prior.

    I think "Pride", including parades continues to be an important event. It
    "registers" the GLBT cause in the minds of gays and straights alike and
    there will be reasons for Pride for many years to come. The concept is a good one and certainly parades to go along with it.

    But then, some of the behavior in the parades or with Pride in general probably isn't an asset and doesn't endear our cause with many straights.
    To some "homophobic" straights, seeing some of the activities and behaviors shown during Pride might lend them to NOT want to lend support or assistance. It can be a wicked circle.
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    Jul 03, 2010 8:57 PM GMT
    erector17 saidI would never find pride an embarassment. The people in the parade are just being themselves and there is nothing wrong with that. I feel that pride shows that there are a huge mix of types of gay people. My opinion completely changed of gay people once I attended my first pride. I use to think that all gay people were feminin, whores, and immoral. That's how I was raised even though I was gay. After attending my first pride, I realized that that wasn't the case, my confidence level and self worth sky rocketted. You should never find anyone in pride to be an embarrassment because you are judging which is wrong regardless of what the person is doing or looks like. If you are going to judge those in the parade or at pride, then it makes it ok people to judge gay people regardless of who they are. Everyone just needs to learn to not judge. As long as the person is happy with themselves, then they should be free to do what they want. The world would be a better place if people would just care about themselves instead of caring what other people should be.



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    Jul 03, 2010 8:58 PM GMT
    Like 95% of the people at pride marches and festivals, I attend wearing shorts or jeans and a t-shirt. The few that are more flamboyant like some drag queens, dykes on bikes, and men in leather wearing chaps with their asses showing certainly do get more attention and more pictures taken by the media. But since these events began as a result of so many of us being excluded, I do not want to tell part of our community that they are not welcome.
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:03 PM GMT
    The more I learn about gay history in America the more people railing against the "effeminate" or "flamboyant" gays really piss me off.

    The Stonewall riots, and thus the modern gay rights movement, were started by drag queens.
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
    i love gay pride its fun n its the only place you truly n 100% you.... so stop being close minded
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:15 PM GMT
    pride is pride and nothing you complain about is going to change that.

    i'm not a huger lover, but i am far from a hater.

    I think most of us need to remind ourselves that it is the type of guys who are active today with pride parades, are those guys that in the early days of the gay rights movement brought attention to our cause. flamboyant and glittery as it may be, it serves a purpose.
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:21 PM GMT
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/gaypride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays,351/

    Remember people, it's the onion. I shouldn't have to say this but there are some people here who...well...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:31 PM GMT
    Well that's what they like to focus on, but we can't tell one group of guys not to go to the parade as who they are. The shell chemical float wore their shell logo and shorts. Continental Airlines wore their logo shirts. The UHPD wore their uniforms. The numerous church's wore their t-shirts. Dykes on Bikes wore their gear. The queens wore their dresses. The nerds wore their glasses. There were only two floats in the entire parade that included shirtless men dancing around. People complain about the parades and they've never even been, because all they see pictures of is of the wild scanitly clad guys that make the cover. Unfortunate for the narrow-minded.
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
    Marching in a Gay Pride?
    Absolutely no way, especially in the UK, where there is a very strong undercurrent feeling of homophobia.
    All it would take is to be spotted by one moron who happen to know me, and before long the whole town would give me that curious look, you know, from the corner of the eye...
    Possibly from the USA or from Australia - well, that just may be different...
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:39 PM GMT
    I think it is great that a wide variety of people march in pride events...
    and I agree that there are a lot of men who feel that that expression of pride is "out of touch" with who they are.

    But I am not hearing any ideas of how the "silent majority" think they should celebrate pride, or recognize it in some way....or maybe feel it isn't necessary?

    March of the gay execs perhaps?
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
    backinEU saidI hate gay pride - there is nothing to be proud of when the entire gay pride parade is a tacky show of naked bodies and sexual freedom. In NYC its even worse - they hand out free condoms and information on HIV testing services on gay pride day.... this only gives out ONE image of gay men - dirty diseased whores who care for nothing else besides sex.


    said it best. Been to one you have been to them all.
    I personally hate them.
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    Jul 03, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
    I think Gay Pride Parades are stupid. I know many people on here will disagree with me, but to each their own. Why does dressing up in drag, wearing leather, waving a rainbow flag, and being obnoxious have to define what it means to be gay? I am just a normal guy who is who he is and doesn't need to flaunt my sexuality. I think pride parades help to hold up the stereotypes people have of the gay community.

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    Jul 03, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
    FLgymguy87 saidI think Gay Pride Parades are stupid. I know many people on here will disagree with me, but to each their own. Why does dressing up in drag, wearing leather, waving a rainbow flag, and being obnoxious have to define what it means to be gay? I am just a normal guy who is who he is and doesn't need to flaunt my sexuality. I think pride parades help to hold up the stereotypes people have of the gay community.



    Well, if all those that feel the way you do started up their own parade section, you and they would be representing the guys you feel should be represented.

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    Jul 03, 2010 9:55 PM GMT
    True, but then again, what do we do to increase awareness ourselves??? Me I just decided to fight the stereotype in my daily life sofar ... I dont act "showy" gay and I dont go around kissing my gay friends on the cheek or publicly engaging in behaviour with gay men that I do not do with my straight friends ... but its true it needs to be shown that it exists, or we get more states like Texas or Saudi Arabia making it illegal :0