God Bless America --- Happy Independence Day!

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    Jul 04, 2010 5:25 AM GMT
    So I thought, being a British transplant to the US that it would be extra nice of me to start a thread saying how much I love being here.

    And moreover, to remind everyone to take some time to remember the historical context of the revolution, it's philosophical foundations in Rousseau and the French Revolution, and the intentions and experiences of the people who drafted that most remarkable of documents, The Constitution of the United States of America.

    Patriotism is often a dirty word in the UK, and often a ghastly parody in the US. So perhaps on this special day we can all think about the Liberties we are fortunate to enjoy, and the necessity of an educated and informed body politic to the continued success of the Republic.

    Happy Independence Day!
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    Jul 04, 2010 5:50 AM GMT
    Americans forgive you. They're found plenty of new enemies since they fought for their independence.
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    Jul 04, 2010 5:52 AM GMT
    JakeBenson saidAmericans forgive you. They're found plenty of new enemies since they fought for their independence.


    Oh I didn't mean that---I was speaking from the point of view of an immigrant. It's historically bizarre to think of the UK as the same country from which the USA declared Independence---Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
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    Jul 04, 2010 6:01 AM GMT
    We're glad to have you Tim, just don't try to install any monarchies here or we'll have to start a revolution on your ass. It's what we do.
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    Jul 04, 2010 6:02 AM GMT
    someguy saidWe're glad to have you Tim, just don't try to install any monarchies here or we'll have to start a revolution on your ass. It's what we do.


    I'm a Republican in the British sense, actually. And this thread isn't about me, it's about America!

    Happy Independence Day, people!
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    Jul 04, 2010 6:07 AM GMT
    icon_surprised.gifThanks and to you also Tim!
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    Jul 04, 2010 7:43 AM GMT
    Many times, in more recent years, I have had the feeling that a lot of immigrants to the United States don't care to adopt our country. They just want to live here, reap the benefits, and send money back to their birth country.

    Your post gives me hope that your wonderful attitude is in the majority.
    Thanks, and a happy 4th of July to you !
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    Jul 04, 2010 8:30 AM GMT
    TigerTim said
    someguy saidWe're glad to have you Tim, just don't try to install any monarchies here or we'll have to start a revolution on your ass. It's what we do.


    I'm a Republican in the British sense, actually. And this thread isn't about me, it's about America!

    Happy Independence Day, people!
    Yes, liberation and independence for all, starting from the inside outward

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    Jul 04, 2010 1:53 PM GMT
    backinEU saidI think Americans don't accept the majority of Immigrants - which leaves them no choice but to use your country for $$ and leave it at their own convenience. If the US tried to integrate more immigrants like France or even UK does then you might have less immigrant problems. In UK - immigration is a problem not due to the fact immigrants do not integrate - but purely because Britain is overcrowded with immigrants now and there's just too many of them.

    Also what is so wrong with sending money back to one's birth country?? What a stupid statement to make.


    The idea of France having "integrated" immigrants is so blithely ignorant of social realities there---hilariously stupid!

    Aside from the recent nonsense about the border with Mexico, the US has done a much better job of integrating immigrants than either Britain or France.
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    Jul 04, 2010 2:59 PM GMT
    Thanks Tim!

    Nicely stated. You are a great addition to the family.

    Happy Independence Day everyone!