Acne - the curse of bodybuilding

  • Jimmy201001

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    Jul 05, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    Hi,
    I've been training intermittently for the past 4 years and recently in the last few months I took a break from working out because it seemed the high protein diet was causing a lot of acne on my back and chest. Is there a way to stop this from happening like using antibacterial handwash (I hear it helps get rid of acne)?

    I'm completely out of shape right now and really want to get back to the gym and start bodybuilding again (I used to be a lot bigger than I am now) but don't want the acne to return. Right now I'm completely acne free, first time in a long while - but it's probably because I haven't been consuming as much protein because I haven't been working out.

    How do all of you keep acne free?

    Cheers
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    Jul 05, 2010 3:32 AM GMT
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    use panoxyl, i used to have the same issues when i first started lifting weights, id get them on my upper back, this took care of it though, havent seen one in ages.
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    Jul 05, 2010 3:39 AM GMT
    It also depends on the supp's you're taking, too.

    Everybody is different. Don't let that stop you from working out. See a dermatologist if it resurfaces.
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    Jul 05, 2010 3:48 AM GMT
    being in shape is better for you then a few pimples.
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:02 AM GMT
    I don't think protein content of your diet and acne are related. Heck, I'd go further to say diet isn't even related to acne. Current literature says that diet and acne are highly controversial, which means nothing is cut and dry. This is 2010. If we still have this myth, it's probably a myth.

    I don't think bodybuilding is causing your acne either unless you're on steroids.

    Likely it's your sweat pattern and hygiene. For example, I sweat instantly on my upper back no matter what I am doing (walking to class). I'm sure that's not good for getting rid of the upper back acne I've had since I've been 14. There's not much I can do except put absorbent powder on my upper back and take multiple showers a day, both of which I do not have the patience for doing. Mine goes away for most of the year and comes back in the last spring to early summer. I do absolutely nothing to treat it, and it goes away again even with me not cleaning my bedsheets everyday (it had been about 2 months!).

    So, keep popping your zits. Dermatologists don't know either and want to sell you drugs because they get a cut from the billion dollar pharmaceutical industry.
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:12 AM GMT
    I have found eating cantaloupe does amazingly for clearing up any inflammation in my skin. I dont know what in cantaloupe does it. I get lots of vitamin A and C from juicing oranges and carrots. And I eat lots of leafy greens. But something in cantaloupe starts clearing up any skins problems within a day. So you might try a quarter to a half of cantaloupe a day for a week and see if it does anything for you.

    I'd be interested in hearing what cantaloupe does for you.

    oh crap, what do you call a cantaloupe in England? cantaloupe? muskmelon?

    One of these is what I am talking about...
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:16 AM GMT
    bluey2223 saidI don't think protein content of your diet and acne are related. Heck, I'd go further to say diet isn't even related to acne. Current literature says that diet and acne are highly controversial, which means nothing is cut and dry. This is 2010. If we still have this myth, it's probably a myth.

    I don't think bodybuilding is causing your acne either unless you're on steroids.

    Likely it's your sweat pattern and hygiene. For example, I sweat instantly on my upper back no matter what I am doing (walking to class). I'm sure that's not good for getting rid of the upper back acne I've had since I've been 14. There's not much I can do except put absorbent powder on my upper back and take multiple showers a day, both of which I do not have the patience for doing. Mine goes away for most of the year and comes back in the last spring to early summer. I do absolutely nothing to treat it, and it goes away again even with me not cleaning my bedsheets everyday (it had been about 2 months!).

    So, keep popping your zits. Dermatologists don't know either and want to sell you drugs because they get a cut from the billion dollar pharmaceutical industry.


    the only downside to popping them is the scarring they may leave behind if not popped correctly, just leave them be. i would say.
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:35 AM GMT
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    Jul 05, 2010 4:37 AM GMT
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  • me35mtl

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    Jul 05, 2010 4:59 AM GMT
    i had a similar problem as well but on my face..BUT it has nothing to do with protein.
    It's either your diet (which might consist of oily food or suppliments) that can trigger it OR you may have naturally oily to combination skin. So when you work out, you must sweat and the sweat gets clogged in your pores which causes acne.

    The only thing that really worked for me (face wise) was using a gel based acne soap (in a black tube with a red and silver packaging) because other soaps were more of a lotion consistancy. And if you have combination to oily skin you shouldnt be using it since it doesnt kill the bacteria and oil that gets trapped in your skin.
    Its very drying, so if you have dry to combination skin you might want to put on a light moisturizer if you get abit red or itchy (but not alot).

    By the way do you do any hair removal on your chest or back?

    If you had acne even when you dont work out on your face and body and had it all your life you might have a serious acne problem. Then you need to see a doctor
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:05 AM GMT
    I just rub some of the Differin that I use on my face on the tops of my shoulders where I break out from a hard workout. I sweat like a pig and that's what causes it. The acne meds get rid of it in a day or two. Just make sure you're washing those parts of your body right after you workout.
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:11 AM GMT
    Buffhunk64 saidDon't take in so much protein. I really wish that people would wake up and stop believing the propaganda that the protein shake companies churn out. Yes, you need a bit extra protein when you workout...but you need complex carbohydrates, fats and other nutrients as well. Read some independent research about what your body needs while working out.


    yeah i was told that alot about over taking protein. Your body can only break down so much. The rest is just purged out of your body.
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:53 AM GMT
    The increases testosterone production due too your lifting will cause your body to have an acne attack. Just drink a lot of water, it will clear up.
  • manpit209

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    Jul 05, 2010 6:17 AM GMT
    You're breaking your most likely due to sweating more than protein intake. There are studies out there that say diet is linked directly to breakouts. Others say there is no correlation. Acne develops from the build up of bacteria in the pores and it's not properly cleaned out.

    I also have the same problem and what I've done to help with it is shower immediately after a workout. Take a warm/hot shower to open up your pores and clear out all the bad stuff. I also switched to using bodywash for sensitive skin which doesn't contain soap which can irritate the skin. Then lastly I used my facial acne topical gel on my chest and shoulders to help clear it up.

    It's a slow process but it's helping out with my situation. If you use the facial gels with Benzyol Peroxide, be careful about wearing colored clothing. It will definitely bleach your clothes. That's the thing I hate about the gels but I found that polyester clothing doesn't bleach so I've switched to wearing mostly polyester stuff now.

    Hopefully that helps with your problem!
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    Jul 05, 2010 6:19 AM GMT
    You'll want to research the causes of common acne. Almost without exception, it's bacterial in nature.

    This is something you'll need to research yourself and try to get headed on the right track. If that doesn't help you'll want to seek a qualified professional.
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    Jul 05, 2010 6:24 AM GMT
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    Actually, it's not high androgen that causes acne, but, the lack of it, or the sudden change in levels.

    I've been in gyms for 35 years, and I've known lots of folks who juiced (it was legend drug until 1991). Almost without exception folks who juice don't have acne. In fact, just the opposite: they have a healthy and vibrant look about them (for a long list of reasons).

    When folks make sudden stops and they dip their androgen is when they break out.

    Cycling is ill-advised, for a long list of reasons. You're much better to keep a nice stable level, be it high, or medium, for the long term. Low androgen is ill-advised in most folks.

    The acne thing is just a misinformation thing from the ignorant and part of the propaganda against androgen.

    Don't forget, AAS have been, for many years, and still are, the treatment of choice for the sickest of the sick, and that's for good reason.

    Some folks are just ignorant.
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    Jul 05, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
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    Buffhunk64 saidDon't take in so much protein. I really wish that people would wake up and stop believing the propaganda that the protein shake companies churn out. Yes, you need a bit extra protein when you workout...but you need complex carbohydrates, fats and other nutrients as well. Read some independent research about what your body needs while working out.


    yeah i was told that alot about over taking protein. Your body can only break down so much. The rest is just purged out of your body.


    You pee it out. It's eliminated via your renal system, for the most part. It doesn't cause acne.
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    Jul 05, 2010 6:31 AM GMT
    Almost any drying agent will improve mild acne. Cystic acne, and deeper infections, or skins diseases, require other action. There are a number of protocols that pros use in the treatment.

    If you read the ingredients on things sold as astringent, you'll see that there's about 40% denatured alcohol. A drying agent (alcohol, sulfur, scrip-Retin-A), and plain old soap and water are the best cure for some acne. Some folks, with deep cystic acne, or chemical allergies, need other treatments (anti-biotics).

    Most of this is just common sense stuff.

    There's some evidence that a high glycemic index diet (i.e. fast sugars) contributes to some forms of acne (bacteria like carbs too).

    You'll want to spend time research this on your own. It's something that you can do yourself.

    You've gotten almost exclusively bad advice here with just a couple of exceptions.

    UV light helps, too.
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:56 PM GMT
    I use neutrogena acne body scrub on my chest and back and it gets rid of zits from sweating after I workout, in a couple days. Plus its quite cheap
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:59 PM GMT
    You're 22. The acne will stop in a year or so.
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    Jul 06, 2010 12:17 AM GMT
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    Mostwant3d said
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    Some folks are just ignorant.


    if only calling someone 'ignorant' caused it to be true... i'll give back my degree and tell my patients to find another caregiver........ not.

    i treat 'backne' every day. many of our patients are on anabolics (for a variety of health reasons). some get acne. and for many of those patients, the cause is the increased sebaceous activity caused by the real and direct impact of anabolics on DHT levels (see below).

    among thousands of references.....

    "Acne and Anabolic Steroids - Anabolic steroids can cause the development of acne and the extent to which it is experienced can be due to a number of varying factors, with the particular steroids and exact dosages used being the two primary factors. The skin´s sebaceous glands have a particularly high affinity to Dihydrotestosterone, which is an androgen the body naturally produces from testosterone via the enzyme 5-alpha Reductase. Increased sebaceous gland activity can oily skin which can combine with bacteria and dead skin caused by normal wear and tear, eventually causing pores to become clogged more quickly than the body can remove them. This of course, is preventable by using only particular steroids, cleansing the skin regularly, and perhaps using a topical anti-androgen. -- (1. Am J Clin Dermatol. 2002;3(icon_cool.gif:571-8. 2. Clin Dermatol. 2004 Sep-Oct;22(5):419-28. 3. Pol Merkuriusz Lek. 2004 May;16(95):490-2.)"

    previously mentioned efforts like showering, topical/scrub exfoliants and benzoyl peroxide washes can help.
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    Jul 06, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
    I don't see how protein could be the culprit.
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    Jul 06, 2010 12:28 AM GMT
    rightasrain said
    chuckystud said
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    rightasrain saidacne - the curse of bodybuilding steroids



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    Some folks are just ignorant.


    if only calling someone 'ignorant' caused it to be true... i'll give back my degree and tell my patients to find another caregiver........ not.

    i treat 'backne' every day. many of our patients are on anabolics (for a variety of health reasons). some get acne. and for many of those patients, the cause is the increased sebaceous activity caused by the real and direct impact of anabolics on DHT levels (see below).

    among thousands of references.....

    "Acne and Anabolic Steroids - Anabolic steroids can cause the development of acne and the extent to which it is experienced can be due to a number of varying factors, with the particular steroids and exact dosages used being the two primary factors. The skin´s sebaceous glands have a particularly high affinity to Dihydrotestosterone, which is an androgen the body naturally produces from testosterone via the enzyme 5-alpha Reductase. Increased sebaceous gland activity can oily skin which can combine with bacteria and dead skin caused by normal wear and tear, eventually causing pores to become clogged more quickly than the body can remove them. This of course, is preventable by using only particular steroids, cleansing the skin regularly, and perhaps using a topical anti-androgen. -- (1. Am J Clin Dermatol. 2002;3(icon_cool.gif:571-8. 2. Clin Dermatol. 2004 Sep-Oct;22(5):419-28. 3. Pol Merkuriusz Lek. 2004 May;16(95):490-2.)"

    previously mentioned efforts like showering, topical/scrub exfoliants and benzoyl peroxide washes can help.


    And, you idiot, not showering cause more acne, too. LOL.

    As I've said, and I'll say again.
    1. You can't believe propaganda.
    2. My own observations of 35 years contradict what you've said.
    3. I believe The World is mostly round. Pictures from off World promote my view.

    Ever watch "Reefer Madness?" You should.

    In this case, the writer didn't know much about DHT AAS. They're well known for hardness, and being cream de le creme' , and giving just the opposite of what you're talking about, but, no matter, you'll believe what you want. I've NEVER, in 35 years, seen a single person break out on DHT derivs. Your experience may be different.

    Let me say this though:
    Up until the mid 90's there was a warning with every bottle of testosterone that shipped from Steris Labs in Phoenix. It said the following:
    "Does not enhance athletic performance." Yep. That's what the manufacturer's drug insert said. After that lieing didn't work, they tried other things, because any sane person knew very much the opposite was true. Imagine all those athletes who were somehow wrong in their observations. They weren't wrong; they were right.

    For years, the notion that cigarettes enhanced vitality was put forth. They don't, but, advertising was saying that for years after folks saw their loved ones dropping dead from lung disease.

    For years, doctors / caregivers said that ulcers were a form of disease caused by nervousness, and, any doctor who disagreed was shunned. They are caused from bacteria as you know.

    Doctors used to "bleed" patients.

    They also used say AAS stunted growth. They don't.

    For years doctors discouraged active rehab. Now, they know just the opposite is what should be done.

    Sometimes doctors are completely clueless.

    I could be wrong, yes, I could, but, I'm not. Point made, and illustrated, with history as a very strong case. Do some folks break out if they don't take care of themselves? I reckon. Do some folks have oiler skin than others? Yeah, I'll give you that.

    Do AAS enhance athletic performance? Well, judging by my own observations, I'd have to say Steris Labs, and all those doctors, were WRONG; downright nut cases.

    LOL.

    I once met a "doctor" in Phoenix who didn't know the different types of steroids.
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    Jul 06, 2010 12:54 AM GMT
    I had the same problem and felt it was being caused by high protein diet. so I saw a dermatologist and she prescribed me some meds and now they are gone and doesn't matter how much Protein I consume.

    Also though new studies say there is no co-relation between food we eat and acne, I have a problem with Coffee and lots of eggs or nuts. So my doctor said to go easy on them. Guess nobody can say for sure if they are related.
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    Jul 06, 2010 1:00 AM GMT
    dude i went through EXACTLY the same thing. ok what u need is :

    -Oxy face pads
    -Oxy face wash.
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    scrub ur face back chest and whatever with the pads before after morning shower and before bed.

    right after scrubing before bed put the face wash on ur face back and chest and let it dry. sleep with it. wash it off in the morning durring ur shower. it'll take a week and then u'll be clear. once ur clear do it every other or every 3 nights. unless it come back then use it more often.