A Reminder That This Is "RealJock" not "RealRepublican" or "RealIsrael" or "RealChristian" etc, etc...

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    Jul 05, 2010 4:03 AM GMT
    Can we have a moratorium on the guys who consistently harp on just one obsession of theirs here, to the exclusion of any topics remotely related to RJ topics? Lately it's been US Republican Party infallibility, Israeli righteousness, and Christian perfection.

    Like most others here, I discuss those things when they're presented, this being an open forum. But most of us discuss other topics, too, including the core interest of RJ: gay health & fitness. And while I have a well-known Liberal political slant, that's not my sole purpose for being here, and I chat on dozens of different topics, including gay fitness, and gay relationships, too.

    So why do these guys come to a gay health site and discuss everything BUT gay health? And each has his own obsessive niche, always controversial & confrontational, always irritating to most of the members, always disruptive. You must have noticed that the guys who do this say virtually NOTHING about gay fitness.

    I like a site best when it's about chatting, not constant campaigning. Maybe RJ should have a policy that you MUST contribute something relevant to fitness & health to maintain membership? I've belonged to groups where you did have to contribute pics, or stories, or whatever was relevant to the site mission.

    Maybe not doable, but some of this stuff here is so damn annoying & predictable, and so far from RJ's stated goals. icon_confused.gif
  • Webster666

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    Jul 05, 2010 5:51 AM GMT
    With all do respect to a great guy, there is a separate section devoted to health and fitness.

    This is the general topics section, where anything goes.

    As you already know, politics and religion bring out some extremely strong opinions, and that will never change.

    The only choices are to take part in those discussions or avoid them altogether.
    Then, there's the choice of starting threads on other topics.

    Regardless of your choice, politics and religion (as always) are here to stay.
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    I think that the Israel discussion will never be settled because it's impossible to get enough people to agree on any aspect of it. And, most people (including myself) won't budge. Just sayin'.
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    Jul 05, 2010 5:54 AM GMT
    i like you wilton as youve helped me clothing wise but if we instilled your thoughts on this site, youd have 4 posts per day, and it will be about the gym, or division 7 flag football participation.

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    Jul 05, 2010 7:49 AM GMT
    jduckj saidi like you wilton as youve helped me clothing wise but if we instilled your thoughts on this site, youd have 4 posts per day, and it will be about the gym, or division 7 flag football participation.



    He´s not saying only fitness stuff, he´s saying that a few guys are basically trolling the site with their obsessions and getting VERY, VERY boring about it.
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    Jul 05, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    True, but if I see a thread I dont like, i just leave it.. thats our free will
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    jduckj saidi like you wilton as youve helped me clothing wise but if we instilled your thoughts on this site, youd have 4 posts per day, and it will be about the gym, or division 7 flag football participation.

    He´s not saying only fitness stuff, he´s saying that a few guys are basically trolling the site with their obsessions and getting VERY, VERY boring about it.

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    Jul 05, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    jduckj saidi like you wilton as youve helped me clothing wise but if we instilled your thoughts on this site, youd have 4 posts per day, and it will be about the gym, or division 7 flag football participation.



    He´s not saying only fitness stuff, he´s saying that a few guys are basically trolling the site with their obsessions and getting VERY, VERY boring about it.
    you mean the northdock guy? icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:02 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidWith all do respect to a great guy, there is a separate section devoted to health and fitness...

    ...Regardless of your choice, politics and religion (as always) are here to stay.

    First, thank you for an overly generous compliment. And I think no less highly of you.

    An assessment confirmed by a very valid point you make, about separate sections here. Perhaps the fault in perception is mine, since I check here often enough that I choose to view all the most recent posts since my last visit, regardless of forum category, and so I see a large number of these single-topic-obsessed posters.

    Second, I have to agree with you about politics & religion being here to stay (did you forget death & taxes? icon_wink.gif ). And who am I to complain about that, being more than free with my own posts on those topics?

    But my original point & question remains, about those here who have a 1-track agenda, that knows nothing of any of the other rich & varied topics we enjoy here. And whose grim, remorseless, and unhappy approach on these personal obsessions seems to me to be disruptive to this online community.

    But as always, I hope to remain open to new thoughts & opinions. And I welcome fair & civilized criticism, such as yours, of a topic I know may become controversial & emotional.
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:12 PM GMT
    Wilton saidCan we have a moratorium on the guys who consistently harp on just one obsession of theirs here, to the exclusion of any topics remotely related to RJ topics? Lately it's been US Republican Party infallibility, Israeli righteousness, and Christian perfection.

    Like most others here, I discuss those things when they're presented, this being an open forum. But most of us discuss other topics, too, including the core interest of RJ: gay health & fitness. And while I have a well-known Liberal political slant, that's not my sole purpose for being here, and I chat on dozens of different topics, including gay fitness, and gay relationships, too.

    So why do these guys come to a gay health site and discuss everything BUT gay health? And each has his own obsessive niche, always controversial & confrontational, always irritating to most of the members, always disruptive. You must have noticed that the guys who do this say virtually NOTHING about gay fitness.

    I like a site best when it's about chatting, not constant campaigning. Maybe RJ should have a policy that you MUST contribute something relevant to fitness & health to maintain membership? I've belonged to groups where you did have to contribute pics, or stories, or whatever was relevant to the site mission.

    Maybe not doable, but some of this stuff here is so damn annoying & predictable, and so far from RJ's stated goals. icon_confused.gif




    not constant campaigning.

    With all due respect, isn't that what this thread is? I think that's the beauty of the site. It's a collection of people from diverse backgrounds and unfortunately we're not always going to get along. Good health is more than your shape and conditioning. It also has to do with mental health and being able to understand different perspectives. I think the debates on some of these topics are actually more rewarding than they might appear. As long as people are open minded enough. Besides, we can always just ignore it.
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    jprichva saidCome on, Bob, say what you really mean:

    You're sick of SouthBeach. Well, so is everyone else. Not for his politics, as he weepily insists, but because he's vulgar, stupid. truculent and class-less.

    Let's talk turkey, eh wot?

    Now here I was trying to be painfully diplomatic, and you unmask me. Is that what one gentleman does to another, who are presumably on the same team? I really must sit you down and teach you tactics & strategy. icon_rolleyes.gif

    But seriously, no, this isn't about any one RJ member alone, but a small number who engage in the things I mentioned. If I wanted to say southbeach1500 alone I would have, I am not shy or cowardly about my opinions, nor about little else, either.

    Rather, I was concerned about what I see as a growing unhealthy trend, that transcends any one individual here. southbeach may be emblematic of the problem, but he is not the sole source of it. So that's why I chose not to personalize my comments in this thread.
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    You are a white Liberal, therefore incoherent.
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    I liked when someone made an Activia thread and Celtic called it RealLadiesinMenopause.com
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
    For once, I totally agree with the OP.
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:05 PM GMT
    JackBlair saidYou are a white Liberal, therefore incoherent.

    LMAO! I naturally presume this is sarcasm, guessing it's directed at me.

    BTW, I used to boat on Lake Hopatcong where you live, as early as the 1950s, and my in-laws had a lovely estate just south of there in Stanhope near Hackettstown, of several hundred acres. They owned that stretch of the Musconetcong River coming from the lake. My wife's great-uncle wrote the poetry book "Songs of the Musconetcong." He composed & delivered a poem for our wedding in 1978, shortly before his death, and I spent time in the Colonial era home mentioned in this link (it incorrectly states it was 1840s, but is actually much earlier).

    It pleases me that I can almost always find some connection with guys online, having lived all over the US. And what do you do in Hopatcong? Is it still rural? I haven't been there in many years.

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    Jul 05, 2010 11:14 PM GMT
    jprichva saidCome on, Bob, say what you really mean:

    You're sick of SouthBeach. Well, so is everyone else. Not for his politics, as he weepily insists, but because he's vulgar, stupid. truculent and class-less.

    Let's talk turkey, eh wot?


    And there are liberals who dish it right back at him.

    I lean left. I don't follow "liberal infallibility." Some liberals on this site are just as, well, " vulgar, stupid. truculent and class-less" as southbeach.

    Southbeach challenges a lot of beliefs of many people. He may not be right. He may not be wrong. He may even present logically fallacious arguments.

    But he sure helps people keep up with their debating skills. Don't like him--block him.
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:16 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidI try to ignore C4's Israel-Palestinian threads... But it is not easy to ignore it when someone talk trash about my Palestinian heritage. So I agree with you, we better stick with fitness and health.


    People trash French Canadians and christians all the time. I could care less.
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
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    People trash French Canadians and christians all the time. I could care less.


    Hey, I don't care about the Christians, but they should keep their grubby paws off my French Canadians.
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:19 PM GMT
    JackBlair saidYou are a white Liberal, therefore incoherent.


    I don't think southbeach is a troll--I've talked with him privately before, and he is much nicer than he appears in the forums.

    JackBlair--def a troll.
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    Jul 05, 2010 11:27 PM GMT
    Wilton saidCan we have a moratorium on the guys who consistently harp on just one obsession of theirs here, to the exclusion of any topics remotely related to RJ topics? Lately it's been US Republican Party infallibility, Israeli righteousness, and Christian perfection.

    Like most others here, I discuss those things when they're presented, this being an open forum. But most of us discuss other topics, too, including the core interest of RJ: gay health & fitness. And while I have a well-known Liberal political slant, that's not my sole purpose for being here, and I chat on dozens of different topics, including gay fitness, and gay relationships, too.

    So why do these guys come to a gay health site and discuss everything BUT gay health? And each has his own obsessive niche, always controversial & confrontational, always irritating to most of the members, always disruptive. You must have noticed that the guys who do this say virtually NOTHING about gay fitness.

    I like a site best when it's about chatting, not constant campaigning. Maybe RJ should have a policy that you MUST contribute something relevant to fitness & health to maintain membership? I've belonged to groups where you did have to contribute pics, or stories, or whatever was relevant to the site mission.

    Maybe not doable, but some of this stuff here is so damn annoying & predictable, and so far from RJ's stated goals. icon_confused.gif


    sorry no can do. i can't agree with you on this.

    i am sick and tired of the innumerable- isn't this blond hot or isn't this red head hot, but you don't hear me complaining. (well except for now) i just ignore those threads. i say you do the same. i say we all ignore the threads we don't like

  • rnch

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    Jul 05, 2010 11:31 PM GMT
    just ban the contrary sob (SB) and be donw with it/him already icon_exclaim.gif
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    Jul 06, 2010 12:33 AM GMT
    I disagree about any moratorium. If "this stuff here is so damn annoying & predictable" then ignore it like everyone else who picks and chooses what to read. The members of RJ choose topics and whether someone responds or not decides if it turns into a thread. No one is forcing anyone to read or participate. The "core interest of RJ: gay health & fitness" has long ago expanded due to members' interest. You yourself interjected a totally irrelevant tangent HERE about your late-great-uncle-in-law the same day that you started this thread! It is interesting as are all your posts, but has nothing whatsoever to do with health, fitness, or your proposed moratorium. You mentioned "those here who have a 1-track agenda," well perhaps one of them is the original core interest of health and fitness that a relatively small percentage of members still seem to write about?

    I'll just assume you had a bad day and disregard that you ever started this thread, unless it gets interesting and I'll decide to responding again.
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    Jul 06, 2010 2:36 AM GMT
    A balance is always nice... thus, I promise not to bash the Palin woman from her porch or anybody else from her porch... LOL
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    Jul 06, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidA balance is always nice...


    "Balance" is worthless. Intelligent, well thought out points which are well argued and substantiated with strong evidence are worth something.

    There are a lot of awfully good points to be made from a fiscally conservative point of view---but no-one on here bothers [or is intelligent enough] to make them.