Another Chapter in AZ

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    Jul 05, 2010 6:32 PM GMT
    Although I agree with the majority of people in the US about AZ Immigration law. Barry Wong has gone off the deep end on this one.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/arizona-candidate-cut-power-illegal-immigrants

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  • GQjock

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    Jul 05, 2010 6:42 PM GMT
    You see .... I don't think that he's going far enough
    These people have been here eating OUR food
    I think we should barricade them in their homes and deny them all food and water
    That'll teach them all from coming here uninvited icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidI agree with Barry Wong... If any non-Arizonian people live in Arizona will understand why we want to cut off the power and gas to illegal immigrants! Yes I support that, because illegal immigrants are selfish people on this planet. They can break the law, but not the American citizens or legal immigrants?
    Well aren't you just a little Wong clone .. but as we all know two Wongs don't make a Right icon_rolleyes.gif

    It is just Dumb on so many levels.
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:14 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair,

    What would be the point in cutting off their power if you know their status? Why not just prepare them for incarceration or deportation? Cutting off the power would be an unncessary step.
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:18 PM GMT
    creature saidsxydrkhair,

    What would be the point in cutting off their power if you know their status? Why not just prepare them for incarceration or deportation? Cutting off the power would be an unncessary step.


    I agree...we just need to deport them and solidify our borders. Its a Security concern!
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
    It is sort of amazing how the rhetoric keeps getting ratcheted up. "who hates illegals more? vote for me!"

    Notice how popular the Border Patrol gets when the economy tanks? Right now the BP are "American Heros"... when times are good? "Jack Booted Thugs".

    People have short memories
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    Jul 05, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
    sdgman saidIt is sort of amazing how the rhetoric keeps getting ratcheted up. "who hates illegals more? vote for me!"

    Notice how popular the Border Patrol gets when the economy tanks? Right now the BP are "American Heros"... when times are good? "Jack Booted Thugs".

    People have short memories


    Of course. Watch the Episode of Family Guy called " You May now kiss the man that recieves.." The mayor totally used a distraction aka gay marriage to throw heat off. Its a old political tactic....Crusades( to get the heat off of the heads of state and church)...Slavery during the Civil War (it was about union preservation not slavery)...etc
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:26 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    creature saidsxydrkhair,

    What would be the point in cutting off their power if you know their status? Why not just prepare them for incarceration or deportation? Cutting off the power would be an unncessary step.

    Incarceration?
    Why not just hit their houses with flame throwers? Wouldn't that be cheaper?


    I don't know what you're insinuating about me by my response. I assume before someone is deported there is a form of incarceration. Perhaps I should have used the word "and" between "incarceration" and "deportation."
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    Jul 05, 2010 10:29 PM GMT
    Stupidity and Bigotry seem to go hand in hand whenever there is economic hardship and people let go of reason and ignore people's rights out of fear and ignorance .. it is borne out from history


    Arizona has a long, shameful history of demonizing Mexican migrants
    http://azstarnet.com/news/opinion/article_9ce82df4-1b82-5bb8-9d2b-005c301457b0.html
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    Jul 06, 2010 2:45 AM GMT

    Aren't these illegals paying their utility bills? Last we checked gas and electricity aren't free.


    So we're supposing that utility companies should start asking people for their passports etc to prove they're Americans? Maybe hire some people to go through everyone's accounts and get proof of their citizenship? Perhaps the grocery stores should start doing that, too?

    In fact, maybe they should be forbidden from buying anything. If they want to leave they'll have to walk out. They shouldn't be allowed to purchase passage back to Mexico, right?

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    Jul 06, 2010 2:50 AM GMT
    so how far off is Arizona from setting up concentration camps in their state? Any guesses?

    What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."
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    Jul 06, 2010 3:00 AM GMT
    novel idea!

    if only immigrants would just play by the rules we wouldn't have this little mess.
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    Jul 06, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    HTownRunner saidso how far off is Arizona from setting up concentration camps in their state? Any guesses?

    What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."


    Free is one thing. Breaking the law is another.
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    Jul 06, 2010 3:11 AM GMT
    JackBlair said
    HTownRunner saidso how far off is Arizona from setting up concentration camps in their state? Any guesses?

    What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."


    Free is one thing. Breaking the law is another.


    Puhleeze...."illegality"/"legality" is not even the issue--people just like to hide behind that to cover up their real beef. Don't like "illegals"? Simple solution: Legalize them. Problem solved---no more "illegals". It's just the phony outrage of the year to rile up the far conservative right base. First it was gay marriage now it's "illegals".
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    Jul 06, 2010 4:45 AM GMT
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    Jul 06, 2010 4:48 AM GMT
    jprichva saidWhat makes these immigrants illegal in the first place is a quota system of legal immigrants that has always favored northern Europeans over southern Europeans and Europeans of any stripe over icky brown and yellow people. Only now we don't much mind yellow people because their kids all get straight 'A's and they're all brilliant computer nerds and mathematicians. Brown people wear sombreros and sleep in the sun and have too many children and refuse to learn English and if you call them on it they'll get their cousin Juan who's in a gang to come and cut you.


    Then help change the quota system so it is legal.

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    Jul 06, 2010 4:49 AM GMT
    HTownRunner saidso how far off is Arizona from setting up concentration camps in their state? Any guesses?

    What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."


    If the federal government makes it legal the problem would be solved.

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    Jul 06, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
    Er, the Incas and Aztecs were descendents of Mongols that came to the Americas, as well as other native Americans. They were not caucasians. There is also a theory that Japanese ancestry is also involved as well as Polynesian.



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    Jul 06, 2010 6:31 PM GMT
    They're mostly mixed race now.



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    Jul 06, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
    Well, that didn't take long. Justice Department Sues, Seeks Injunction on Arizona Immigration Law.

    Commence the wailing of racists against the evil brown folk.
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    Jul 06, 2010 6:56 PM GMT
    there's a slight irony in the supporters of Arizona's law saying that it is because SOME immigrants are breaking the law--being here "ilegally"...yet the law itself encroaches on the federal government's powers----essentially the law passed by Arizona itself is illegal.

    MunchingZombie saidWell, that didn't take long. Justice Department Sues, Seeks Injunction on Arizona Immigration Law.

    Commence the wailing of racists against the evil brown folk.
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    Jul 06, 2010 7:10 PM GMT
    HTownRunner said
    JackBlair said
    HTownRunner saidso how far off is Arizona from setting up concentration camps in their state? Any guesses?

    What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."


    Free is one thing. Breaking the law is another.


    Puhleeze...."illegality"/"legality" is not even the issue--people just like to hide behind that to cover up their real beef. Don't like "illegals"? Simple solution: Legalize them. Problem solved---no more "illegals". It's just the phony outrage of the year to rile up the far conservative right base. First it was gay marriage now it's "illegals".


    THANK YOU...someone who makes sense and isn't brainwashed by the media. I'm glad you have a clear thought and can see that there is a way better solution to this rather than just treat HUMANS like dirt. I can't wait for arizona to flop on its ass. and No not every non arizonan who comes here automatically agrees with the outrages crap they come up with here.
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    Jul 06, 2010 7:39 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidStupidity and Bigotry seem to go hand in hand whenever there is economic hardship and people let go of reason and ignore people's rights out of fear and ignorance .. it is borne out from history


    Arizona has a long, shameful history of demonizing Mexican migrants
    http://azstarnet.com/news/opinion/article_9ce82df4-1b82-5bb8-9d2b-005c301457b0.html


    Rights? You mean the right to be deported? They are invading our soil without permission. In other countries, they would face harsh prison sentences and beatings. I'd say kicking their criminal asses out is a moderate and sufficient punishment that still gets the message across - they are NOT welcome.
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    Jul 06, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
    ja89 said
    THANK YOU...someone who makes sense and isn't brainwashed by the media. I'm glad you have a clear thought and can see that there is a way better solution to this rather than just treat HUMANS like dirt. I can't wait for arizona to flop on its ass. and No not every non arizonan who comes here automatically agrees with the outrages crap they come up with here.


    It may be a clear thought, but it's practically insane. We don't have room for them here. We don't have jobs for them here. They bring tremendous amounts of crime with them. We cannot afford to keep them here, we don't even have enough jobs for ourselves. I know the liberal ideology says to be everyone's doormat, but this is one instance where that will only bring more problems.
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    Jul 06, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
    It's funny that when i walk down the street there's a caucasian man holding up a cardboard sign asking for MONEY. On the other side of the street there's a "brown" man holding up a sign asking for a JOB.
    You guys honestly want to kick out people for wanting a better life for themselves and their families. You say "they take our jobs", "create crime", and "cause nothing but trouble". How about instead of pointing the finger at people who can't defend themselves you point it at the government who's treating these people like sub-humans.