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    Feb 08, 2008 5:40 AM GMT
    I just hit on an idea...

    Y'see, meat is a luxury here in the Philippines. I'm still financially dependent on my parents and thus at the mercy to whatever my mom cooks. She's old fashioned and I have two younger siblings. She's totally budget conscious, a bit limited in culinary skills (LOL), and has this idea that vegetables and only vegetables are good for you. If she had her way, it'd be veggies everyday.

    Not saying it isn't good, but that I just don't like to eat veggies. It's why I grew up skinny. I'm very very picky when it comes to food. When I don't like the food, I can very easily turn off my appetite and skip meals. My younger bro isn't, and even though he's a year or so younger than me, he's bigger and taller than me by an inch. I also can't stand eating. :S I want to eat as fast as I can, it's why I hate fish coz you have to pick off the meat from the bones. Anyway, I couldn't very well march up to my mom and demand she cook steak every day! LOL

    So here's my idea. What if... I drink something like 6 eggs everyday? Like 2 in the morning, 2 at lunch, 2 at dinner. I don't know my caloric requirements for growth (how do I compute that? I'm 5'6", 136 lbs), plus I don't know how much calories there are in eggs. But eggs are relatively cheap compared to meat, and they're full of proteins aren't they? I wouldn't even need to cook em, just put em in the osterizer, let it turn into goo then drink it straight up... trying my best not to throw up of course. LOL (I'll probably keep something as a chaser nearby, milk perhaps...)

    6 uncooked eggs on top of my normal meals, everyday? Is six enough?

    Is this a good plan to get me the proteins I so desperately need without resorting to cannibalism? LOL

    P.S. I've tried it. It's quite okay. If I drink it down really fast, it tastes like I just ate a runny sunny-side-up
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    Feb 08, 2008 7:23 PM GMT
    Well if you dont mind having a Biotin deficiency go for it. Biotin is a main factor in maintaining hair. When you eat raw eggs the raw egg whites have a chemical that cancels out the Biotin in the egg yolk. Also are your eggs pasteurized to get rid of any bacteria that could be in it. My suggestion would just stick to the fish, you dont need to eat it quickly, and for veggies, see if your mom can get some beans, like black beans, they are good in fiber and have a fair amount of protein per serving.
    Definitely though stay away from the raw eggs....
  • NYCguy74

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    Feb 08, 2008 10:15 PM GMT
    here is an US nutrition label for an egg, and whites and yokes separated.
    like notsomuch said, you have to be really careful about raw eggs, with salmonella and all. Also there is cholesterol and fat in the yokes. I've heard limit to 1 or 2 yokes a day.
    Here in the US, you can by a carton of pastured egg white only, so no food poising worries, plus less of fat and other "bad" stuff.
    normally for breakfast, I'll scramble the equivalent of 3 or so whites, and one whole egg.
    it would probably be safer to cook the eggs than to just drink them raw. and possibly separate them and only use whites.

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    Feb 09, 2008 12:49 AM GMT
    I hope you are not consuming 6 whole raw eggs a day... Even though you are young and your body can probably handle a lot, you are simply going overload on the cholesterol scale in no time. 2 yokes -- 3 pushing it -- would be what you should consume in a day. You can be more liberal on the egg whites though. But you still shouldn't eat them raw. Also, egg whites contain trypsin inhibitors which counteract the absorbtion of certain proteins.

    Theres an article on this from the Incredible, Edible, Egg website

    The Incredible, Edible Egg YolkWhile egg whites are not particularly important to consume, they are relatively harmless when cooked. However, raw egg whites should NOT be consumed.

    Egg whites contain anti-nutrients. Avidin is a glycoprotein in egg whites that binds to the B vitamin biotin, and can lead to a deficiency of this vitamin.

    Additionally, egg whites contain trypsin inhibitors, which could possibly inhibit proper digestion of protein, and growth. Heat destroys both of these compounds.

    http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html

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    Feb 09, 2008 1:11 AM GMT
    Lentils also have a good amount of protein and quinoa is a high protein almost perfect food. Besides, giving yourself salmonella would just be unfortunate.
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    Feb 09, 2008 3:01 AM GMT
    RBY71 saidLentils also have a good amount of protein and quinoa is a high protein almost perfect food.


    According to http://www.nutritiondata.com/, in terms of percentage of calories, quinoa is 15% protein, which is about the same as wheat (wheat's protein varies according to variety). Cooked lentils are 27% protein. A boiled egg is 35% protein. Lean sirloin steak is 59% protein. According to those figures, quinoa really isn't all that high in protein. At 20% protein, even raw broccoli has more protein than quinoa.

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    Feb 09, 2008 3:24 AM GMT
    Besides which, one large egg has about 7 grams of protein. 7 x 6 = 42 grams of protein. I don't know what or how much veggies you're eating (from your post, it doesn't sound like you're eating a lot) but I can tell you that, as a base level, 42 grams of protein per day won't even begin to help you promote real muscle growth. You might want to look into protein supplements.
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    Feb 09, 2008 6:31 AM GMT
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    OK! OK!

    I'll cook em!

    Two eggs a day, yolk and whites, and COOKED. icon_razz.gif

    (I've had a brush with typhoid before, so I do NOT want salmonella, LOL)

    Quinoa and Lentils are exotic food here. icon_razz.gif Probably only available in the imported section of the supermarkets... and probably prohibitively expensive.

    Fish too. It's a 3 hour drive to the nearest coastline, so fish are expensive.

    Mom seems to be cooking more meat these days though. So that's good. I eat a lot.

    Protein supplements... that's the problem. I don't think there are any sold in the nearby city. And if there are they'll be way too expensive too. I'll try and see if I can get them though.

    Okay, I think I'll just stick to whatever my mom cooks. icon_sad.gif *sigh* I do like veggies every now and then.

    BTW: Thanks much guys! icon_biggrin.gif
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 17, 2008 10:19 PM GMT
    I've never understood why people are so afraid of eggs. Dietary cholesterol does NOT raise your blood cholesterol levels.

    Eggs are good for you. Eat the yolks.

    The ONLY acceptable reason, IMO, to not eat the yolk is because you are on a calorie restricted diet. Other than that, you're wasting the good stuff.
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    Mar 17, 2008 10:43 PM GMT
    There is another very compelling, very pracitcal reason not to drink egg whites: gas. Egg white can give you room-clearing, hole-in-the-seat gas that smells like it emanated from the ninth layer of Hell.
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    Mar 18, 2008 12:02 AM GMT
    paradox saidAccording to those figures, quinoa really isn't all that high in protein. At 20% protein, even raw broccoli has more protein than quinoa.


    Quinoa is a complete protein though, so it is very useful in that respect. But I wont contradict anyone's mama who tells them to eat their broccoli. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 18, 2008 12:15 AM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidI've never understood why people are so afraid of eggs. Dietary cholesterol does NOT raise your blood cholesterol levels.

    Eggs are good for you. Eat the yolks.

    The ONLY acceptable reason, IMO, to not eat the yolk is because you are on a calorie restricted diet. Other than that, you're wasting the good stuff.


    THANK YOU. Finally some sanity. There's so much misinformation when it comes to food. If you can find eggs from pastured chickens that are allowed to eat their natural omnivorous diet, you will be eating a very healthy food.
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    Mar 18, 2008 12:27 AM GMT
    There was an article here on RJ about eggs. It talked about not breaking yolks when you cook the eggs as this oxidizes the cholesterol and that oxidized cholesterol is what's so bad for you. I love eggs, they are the perfect food. They're delicious and they come in their own packaging. And there's something about that shape...
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    Mar 18, 2008 12:48 AM GMT
    McGayIt talked about not breaking yolks when you cook the eggs


    Believe me, most of the time I'm really trying not to

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    Mar 18, 2008 7:28 PM GMT
    [quote]THANK YOU. Finally some sanity. There's so much misinformation when it comes to food. If you can find eggs from pastured chickens that are allowed to eat their natural omnivorous diet, you will be eating a very healthy food.[/quote]

    I was about to CRACK UP because I read your sentence as "eggs from pasteurized chickens"! now THAT I would like to see. I think a "pasteurized" chicken would be "boiled chicken", wouldn't it? icon_eek.gif

    I see that you are advocating eggs from free range chickens, not pasteurized eggs. Which, for those that like to eat raw eggs (for whatever ungodly reason), are infinitely safer for you than unpasturized, regular eggs. (From unpasturized chickens. LOL!)



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    Mar 18, 2008 7:59 PM GMT
    Jebus, this guy lives in the Philippines.

    If eggs are your best source of protein (and it sounds like they are) then by all means eat eggs. Do cook them. You might want to boil them as that is easy to do and means that you are eating eggs and not the condiments.

    Eggs and beans are the perfect foods. Beans you have in the Philippines in some abundance.

    Forget about protein powders, it is a waste of your money (which it sounds like you don't have to waste).

    By all means do eat your veggies. Here mom is right. This is where your vitamins are coming from.

    Good luck,
    Terry
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    Mar 18, 2008 10:16 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidI've never understood why people are so afraid of eggs. Dietary cholesterol does NOT raise your blood cholesterol levels.

    Eggs are good for you. Eat the yolks.

    The ONLY acceptable reason, IMO, to not eat the yolk is because you are on a calorie restricted diet. Other than that, you're wasting the good stuff.


    Eggs are fat handgrenades Im sorry to say otherwise when you look at the level of calories v satiety its way off the scale and would screw up his macro intake way too much.

    Sedative is it protein sources you are after or just variation?
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 19, 2008 3:08 PM GMT
    The eggs in my fridge have 4.5 g of fat. 1.5 g. of that is saturated fat. That means 3 g are of the poly or mono variety.

    I'll take the eggs. Especially mine that are high in Omega 3 fats and and are chock full of good stuff.

    If you're THAT concerned about eggs, cut out some saturated fat somewhere else. But, not the eggs.
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    Mar 19, 2008 3:10 PM GMT
    I grew up on black beans and rice. Very healthy and lot's or iron. I suggest that you eat your veggies even if you don't like it. I mean you will drink raw eggs but you say you don' t like veggies. Enjoy your food and don't rush through nutrition. Good luck to you.
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    Mar 19, 2008 3:15 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidThe eggs in my fridge have 4.5 g of fat. 1.5 g. of that is saturated fat. That means 3 g are of the poly or mono variety.

    I'll take the eggs. Especially mine that are high in Omega 3 fats and and are chock full of good stuff.

    If you're THAT concerned about eggs, cut out some saturated fat somewhere else. But, not the eggs.


    do you seriously think that suggesting to consume 6 whole eggs a day is a good nutritional strategy?

    From the American Egg Nutition Board Website (ie the pro eggers)

    Q. How many eggs can I eat in a day?


    A. The Dietary Guidelines for Americans and the American Heart Association recommend that individuals consume, on average, less than 300 mg of cholesterol per day. Enjoying an egg or two a day can fall within those guidelines, particularly if individuals opt for other low-cholesterol foods throughout the day. Eggs contain 212 mg of cholesterol.


    Formulate you own opinion based on the facts not on someone elses personal interpretation of them:

    http://www.aeb.org/Index.asp
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 19, 2008 3:30 PM GMT
    Dietary cholesterol does not contribute to blood cholesterol.

    Polyunsaturated fats are the majority of fats in eggs.

    Eggs are good for you.
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 19, 2008 3:32 PM GMT
    And I don't recall saying to eat 6 eggs a day
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:06 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidAnd I don't recall saying to eat 6 eggs a day


    you didnt read the post and you didnt read the reports that back it up

    The original post was should I eat 6 eggs a day in the absence of meat.

    Correct dietary cholesterol does not equate to blood cholesterol. But excess fat and excess dieatry cholesterol does.

    The stance point of egg cholesterol is bad for you was previously based on restricting cholesterol in all forms and keeping fat low in heart patients and elderly based on studies that were undertaken on a middle aged study group. This has subsequently been overturned.

    What has not been overturned is that too many eggs ie over 2 a day is not good for you.
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    Mar 26, 2008 9:01 AM GMT
    ursamajorJebus, this guy lives in the Philippines.

    If eggs are your best source of protein (and it sounds like they are) then by all means eat eggs. Do cook them. You might want to boil them as that is easy to do and means that you are eating eggs and not the condiments.

    Eggs and beans are the perfect foods. Beans you have in the Philippines in some abundance.


    doh. LOL. Thus you see why McDonald's wouldn't cut it. LOL

    bfg1Sedative is it protein sources you are after or just variation?


    Protein I guess, and the sheer easiness of just gulping them down rather than sitting to 5 meals a day.

    No worries though. icon_smile.gif I've since gained better appetite and now eat EVERYTHING. Heh. Icky veggies included.

    Plus mom has agreed to incorporate meat daily into the menu. So I guess, it's not any more a problem. Heh

    I do feel HORRIBLY embarassed about this thread. ROFL

    Thanks guys. icon_smile.gif