Vigilant Citizen: What do you guys think?

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    Jul 06, 2010 5:39 AM GMT
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/

    I find his site interesting and he makes some valid points, although I still listen to mainstream music because I take everything what he says with a grain of salt (everything I read on the internet, for that matter).I do find weird that a lot of artists cover one of their eyes with their hand, that's kinda weird.

    But if the Illuminati were real, and if they're as powerful as he says, wouldn't they just do everything in their power to ban his site icon_question.gificon_neutral.gif

    I dunno I just wanna know what you guys think.
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    Jul 06, 2010 9:24 AM GMT
    I think his site is silly. In his "Alejandro" article, he claims Gaga has Alejandro as a symbol for God, as if God were young as the lyrics say Alejandro is, or as if Gaga's discussion of the song as being about her frustration with gay guys she couldn't be with were somehow irrelevant. The video is about rejection as the article suggests, and she does use a lot of Catholic symbolism, but she left Catholicism and has a lot of resentment towards that religion, partly because of its bigotry towards gays and bisexuals such as herself. Her symbolism is not symptomatic of or evidence of some global elite conspiracy - and certainly not now that she's discussed publicly that she uses illuminati symbolism.

    I've listened to the song lots of times and I think a more plausible interpretation is that she had to cut out some gay friends from her life because she couldn't handle the sexual frustration. The video extends that theme by also incorporating Catholicism to an extent, perhaps because Catholicism rejects gays and because she rejected Catholicism just as she rejected those particular gay friends.

    Anytime you hear someone discussing global conspiracies on the basis of such flimsy evidence you should run in the other direction.
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    Jul 06, 2010 9:34 AM GMT
    Ok, I just read the Gaga "Telephone" article and this guy is even more batshit crazy than I previously appreciated. You can see the crazy right there on the page. Underneath a picture of Lady Gaga speaking on a telephone, he writes, "Gaga’s head is the telephone. She is not answering that phone, which is symbolic of her dissociative mind state." But she is answering the phone right there in the photo! Unbelievable. And how could "the cigarettes covering her eyes represent her blindness to her highly toxic life as a mind controlled drone" when she's consciously incorporated those cigarette-sunglasses into her video? Unbelievable.

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    On the other hand, maybe that website itself is evidence of a global conspiracy. The conspiring elite have decided to make conspiracy theorists so stupendously stupid that they'll lose all credibility when the day comes that actual evidence of a conspiracy does come out, hence stupid websites like that one.
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    Jul 06, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    Satyricon331 saidOk, I just read the Gaga "Telephone" article and this guy is even more batshit crazy than I previously appreciated. You can see the crazy right there on the page. Underneath a picture of Lady Gaga speaking on a telephone, he writes, "Gaga’s head is the telephone. She is not answering that phone, which is symbolic of her dissociative mind state." But she is answering the phone right there in the photo! Unbelievable. And how could "the cigarettes covering her eyes represent her blindness to her highly toxic life as a mind controlled drone" when she's consciously incorporated those cigarette-sunglasses into her video? Unbelievable.

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    On the other hand, maybe that website itself is evidence of a global conspiracy. The conspiring elite have decided to make conspiracy theorists so stupendously stupid that they'll lose all credibility when the day comes that actual evidence of a conspiracy does come out, hence stupid websites like that one.
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    I think what he was trying to say was that the lyrics of Telephone say "sorry I cannot answer... stop callin stop callin" and what VC claims is that she knows that she's an Illuminati puppet, that's why she consciously incorporates symbols stuff
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    Jul 06, 2010 9:42 PM GMT
    devilish_intentions saidI think what he was trying to say was that the lyrics of Telephone say "sorry I cannot answer... stop callin stop callin" and what VC claims is that she knows that she's an Illuminati puppet, that's why she consciously incorporates symbols stuff


    Yes, that's exactly what he's saying - and it's hilarious because he handles evidence so incoherently. He starts the article by saying the lyrics are shallow pop ones, and then notes that Gaga wanted the video to have some symbolic depth. Then, he uses the lyrics rather than the video images to support this dissociation thesis of his. The lyrics don't support the idea on their own, however, so he just goes on to grasp at hilariously off-point images like the one of her answering the telephone.

    And if he wants to say Gaga knows she's an Illuminati puppet, then he can't say she's blind. If he wants to claim she's suffering blindness, then he can't say that she knows.

    Seriously, stay away from that site. It's crazy! I'm sure the guy is sincere but he's a loon.
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    Jul 06, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
    I can't say whether or not the plot to "dumb down society" is real, but I can say it's been very effective.
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    Jul 07, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    I just looked at the Christina Aguilera Not Myself Tonight part and that was all it took to see that this guy was full of crap. With this one sentence, he is absolutely correct, "The industry defines its own trends and in order to be successful, artists must follow these trends and communicate the same message." But from there he goes on to claim that the entertainment industry has much more sinister motives. That is giving their intelligence too much credit. Their only motive is the easiest way to make a profit and that too often does not include originality or creativity. Something sells big and it will be repackaged again and again. That's the formula. And we all fall for it. Look at all the threads concerning Beyonce, Rhianna, Lady Gaga, etc. A bullet on the Billboard charts has nothing to do with talent. Too bad because in this electronic information age, it is so easy to stumble upon talent that is out of the mainstream and put some variety in our lives, instead of just accepting what is fed to us. When I was a kid, pretty much the only way you found it was being turned on to something new by a friend or listening to low power radio stations found low on the dial. There is something better is out there if we only look for it.