Weight Loss from Stomach Without Cardio?

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    Jul 06, 2010 7:34 AM GMT
    Hey all,

    I'm a newbie weight trainer and consummate ectomorph - 5'11", 126 pounds and I look at skinny as that sounds. Except for one thing: my stomach. It's flabby. Not Homer Simpson levels, but it protrudes (particularly when I sit down) and definitely looks and feels like fat.

    My diet is pretty strict since I started doing weights (about two months in) and I do core exercises every three days. I have quite an inward curving spine so I wondered if it was my posture but again, I can 'pinch the fat' so to speak.

    I obviously want to lose the gut and cardio strikes me as the obvious answer, but all the advice I've read for ectomorphs wanting to gain muscle is to avoid doing this. Do you guys have any advice on how I can shift this weight around my waist without catabolism? Let me know if there's any more info you need!
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    Jul 06, 2010 11:45 AM GMT
    I know a couple guys with " soft bodies" like yours. I observe that
    they eat a lot of jjunk food. I lost my belly fat at my advanced age switching to a natural cave man diet. So cut out all processed sugar and processed
    carbs and I think you will be amazed that you will become lean and muscular. Definitely add meat , nuts, berries and veggies that work with male hormones to decrease estrogen. Don't eat any soy products.
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    Jul 06, 2010 12:06 PM GMT
    Simple advice would be to do warm up cardio only and hit the weights hard.

    Review after 4 moths and see if you need to increase your cardio.

    Looking at you I wouldn't say you're drastically eating the wrong foods, just lacking in exercise and once you start lifting that will shift.
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    Jul 06, 2010 5:21 PM GMT
    4 WORDS

    HIGH INTENSITY INTERVAL TRAINING.

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    Jul 06, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    veck saidHey all,

    I'm a newbie weight trainer and consummate ectomorph - 5'11", 126 pounds and I look at skinny as that sounds. Except for one thing: my stomach. It's flabby. Not Homer Simpson levels, but it protrudes (particularly when I sit down) and definitely looks and feels like fat.

    My diet is pretty strict since I started doing weights (about two months in) and I do core exercises every three days. I have quite an inward curving spine so I wondered if it was my posture but again, I can 'pinch the fat' so to speak.

    I obviously want to lose the gut and cardio strikes me as the obvious answer, but all the advice I've read for ectomorphs wanting to gain muscle is to avoid doing this. Do you guys have any advice on how I can shift this weight around my waist without catabolism? Let me know if there's any more info you need!


    Eat. Eat the right things. Your body will fix itself.
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    Jul 06, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidI know a couple guys with " soft bodies" like yours. I observe that
    they eat a lot of jjunk food. I lost my belly fat at my advanced age switching to a natural cave man diet. So cut out all processed sugar and processed
    carbs and I think you will be amazed that you will become lean and muscular. Definitely add meat , nuts, berries and veggies that work with male hormones to decrease estrogen. Don't eat any soy products.


    ITS FUNNY U SAY THAT i FEEL SO FAT WHEN i DRINK SOY MILK BUT REGULAR MLK MAKES ME LEANER.. AND MILK WITH FAT IS BETTER THEN SKIM TO ME.. sKIM SEEMS TO HAVE PLENTY SUGAR.
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    Jul 06, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
    You can't target weight loss from a specific part of your body. The formula for getting rid of fat is simple -- you have to burn more calories than you take in, requiring your body to burn its fat stores. You can do this by reducing your calorie consumption, but you'll get faster results from working out, and in particular, cardio. But, I agree, you probably want to try to eat healthier foods so your body is getting more of the right things, and consuming less fats and sugars.
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    Jul 06, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    I think you have to consider- to a point- what Chucky says. The caveat being that you have to work out hard and build up your major muscle groups (LEGS, chest, back, shoulders). You need to eat to fuel muscle growth. With more muscle mass comes a higher metabolism. You will burn the pouch off as you get bigger, muscle wise. Focus on compound movements (more than one body part): squats, lunges, more squats and lunges, bench presses, push ups, pull ups, rows, deadlifts. Don't worry so much about the smaller muscle groups, they will get enough of a work out for now.
    Now for what Chucky said. If you don't consume enough calories to fuel your workouts, your body will go into starvation mode and actually slow down your metabolism. This is bad.
    Try the 12 week muscle building program on here and see if your stomach doesn't get a bit flatter.
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    Jul 07, 2010 8:18 AM GMT
    Thisuserexists saidSimple advice would be to do warm up cardio only and hit the weights hard.

    Review after 4 moths and see if you need to increase your cardio.

    Looking at you I wouldn't say you're drastically eating the wrong foods, just lacking in exercise and once you start lifting that will shift.



    The answer is in looking at his pic.... skinny fat, and possibly with swayback (from the tilt of your back at about elbow height and your own comments about a hollow back). I used to be both of these too.

    The solution is to eat well and train to get big. Don´t major on cardio. You won´t accidentally get big, but should normalise. You are too thin, your body thinks you are starving and you won´t ever lose the belly til you gain weight. You can easily carry another 50lb: I´m 5´9" and about 175 and am look athletic rather than muscle bound.

    Also (though it´s hard to say from the angle of the pic) I suspect most of the "belly" is actually posture related and the solution to that is often stretching and deep stabilisation work. if you want to post a pic directly from the front, from the side and the back I can make better comments.

    Meanwhile do what Mike says.


  • Neon_Dreams

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    Jul 07, 2010 8:27 AM GMT
    I have a slightly flabby belly and for years have tried to get rid of it through healthy eating, cardio, and weight-training.

    However, the one thing I never wanted to do was...ab work! Because it is not 'fun' to me.

    In the past 4 days I have gone from 50 crunches to 400 per day and I am already starting to see ab definition!!!

    To the original poster: You are THIN and I imagine your body fat percentage is very low also.

    My advice is to do ab work! Crunches every morning before eating and again before bed. Every day increase the number as much as you can handle!!!

    I bet you will see results in as quick as a week...

    Best of luck. Keep Eating healthy and Often.


    Joe
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    Jul 07, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
    joecoolnv saidI have a slightly flabby belly and for years have tried to get rid of it through healthy eating, cardio, and weight-training.

    However, the one thing I never wanted to do was...ab work! Because it is not 'fun' to me.

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    This won't work for the OP. He's SO thin that his body is trying to preserve all the energy stores it can. Abs work isn't his answer.

    He needs to build up his legs, ass, back, everything apart from stomach and it will sort itself out. This time CHuckles is right... the OP is WAY too thin and his answer is 90% about diet.
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    Jul 09, 2010 2:07 AM GMT
    Yeah, man...it's called the famine syndrome.
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    Jul 12, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidI know a couple guys with " soft bodies" like yours. I observe that
    they eat a lot of jjunk food. I lost my belly fat at my advanced age switching to a natural cave man diet. So cut out all processed sugar and processed
    carbs and I think you will be amazed that you will become lean and muscular. Definitely add meat , nuts, berries and veggies that work with male hormones to decrease estrogen. Don't eat any soy products.



    Why not eat soy products? I eat a lot of soy.
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    Jul 13, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
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    Alpha13 saidI know a couple guys with " soft bodies" like yours. I observe that
    they eat a lot of jjunk food. I lost my belly fat at my advanced age switching to a natural cave man diet. So cut out all processed sugar and processed
    carbs and I think you will be amazed that you will become lean and muscular. Definitely add meat , nuts, berries and veggies that work with male hormones to decrease estrogen. Don't eat any soy products.


    Why not eat soy products? I eat a lot of soy.




    Soy has gotten a bad rap, thanks to studies linking soy's estrogen-like chemicals with breast cancer. As a result, many women now shun the food and some men believe tofu will make them less masculine.

    Most medical authorities no longer believe that soy causes breast cancer. Recent studies have found that soy may actually protect women against breast cancer. Their is no evidence that soy feminizes males. Dr Weil discusses the issue in more detail on his web page. Dr Weil recommends that soy products be included in the diet.

    http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA312211/Can-Soy-Feminize-a-Baby-Boy.html

    I'm not an expert, so there may be other issues that Alpha13 is aware of. The estrogen issue was always the biggest concern.