Hawaii Republican Governor vetoes civil unions for gay Hawaiians. Republicans continue to prove that they stand against equal rights for gays

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    Jul 07, 2010 4:42 AM GMT
    They claim to only be concerned about "protecting the sanctity of marriage", but vetoing civil union legislation proves that what Republicans actually want is to keep gay Americans second class citizens.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_hawaii_civil_unions
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    Jul 07, 2010 4:50 AM GMT
    US Republican supporters here on RJ can rejoice... icon_sad.gif

    Or will some of them criticize their own party for once, and admit that voting for Republicans is voting against gay civil rights? Oh, sorry, that was stupid of me, DUH!
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    Jul 07, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    ..and so we contend that you may as well call it marriage because even if you don't, they still understand that a rose by any other name is still a rose...

    These aren't stupid people, they're just bad people. She's one.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 07, 2010 10:37 AM GMT
    One consolation is that once again with everything they do on this issue
    The republican party is on the wrong side of history and they will eventually have to pay the piper for all of these antics
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    Jul 07, 2010 10:53 AM GMT
    Lingle said, "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."

    Politicians, particularly Republicans, take this position only when it favors them. In all other cases, they couldn't care less about the opinions of their constituents.

    Funny how that works, huh?
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    Jul 07, 2010 11:35 AM GMT
    GQjock saidOne consolation is that once again with everything they do on this issue
    The republican party is on the wrong side of history and they will eventually have to pay the piper for all of these antics


    They aren't paying the piper on the civil rights movement, which was bigger and better organized. Why would it be any different with us?
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    Jul 07, 2010 11:40 AM GMT
    reppaT saidLingle said, "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."

    Politicians, particularly Republicans, take this position only when it favors them. In all other cases, they couldn't care less about the opinions of their constituents.

    Funny how that works, huh?

    Did she say when this would be up for a vote? I genuinely believe that Hawaiians will vote this into law, they struck me as very liberal.
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    Jul 07, 2010 12:09 PM GMT
    jlly_rnchr said
    reppaT saidLingle said, "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."

    Politicians, particularly Republicans, take this position only when it favors them. In all other cases, they couldn't care less about the opinions of their constituents.

    Funny how that works, huh?

    Did she say when this would be up for a vote? I genuinely believe that Hawaiians will vote this into law, they struck me as very liberal.


    No, of course not. All she's saying is that it should be up to the people, though there's no doubt in my mind that she'll fight to make sure such a vote will never see the light of day.
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    Jul 07, 2010 12:54 PM GMT
    Wilton saidUS Republican supporters here on RJ can rejoice... icon_sad.gif

    Or will some of them criticize their own party for once, and admit that voting for Republicans is voting against gay civil rights? Oh, sorry, that was stupid of me, DUH!
    Oh dont worry..
    The 'republican supporters' here will be the cowards they are....... and the sheep they have always been.
    Unfortunately not ONE of them know the DEFINITION of 'true' conservatism! They only know what was spoon fed to them because they LACK the intelligence to actually question 'their' definition or admit they havent a clue.
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    Jul 07, 2010 2:47 PM GMT
    I'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't surprised that southbeach can't come up with a serious reply.

    Hey, Gov. Lingle, can we also put up to a vote the issue of slavery?
    (I need a little bit of help around the house. Don't you?)
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    Jul 07, 2010 3:10 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidI'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't surprised that southbeach can't come up with a serious reply.

    Hey, Gov. Lingle, can we also put up to a vote the issue of slavery?
    (I need a little bit of help around the house. Don't you?)


    I'm just surprised he took time out of his celebration of the Hawaii decision to post something.

    Self-loathing takes a lot out of one's schedule, after all.

    Now...WHERE ARE MY DAMN PEANUTS, STEWARDESS?
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    Jul 07, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
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    Caesarea4 saidI'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't surprised that southbeach can't come up with a serious reply.

    Hey, Gov. Lingle, can we also put up to a vote the issue of slavery?
    (I need a little bit of help around the house. Don't you?)


    I'm just surprised he took time out of his celebration of the Hawaii decision to post something.

    Self-loathing takes a lot out of one's schedule, after all.

    Now...WHERE ARE MY DAMN PEANUTS, STEWARDESS?


    lol Otterjoq you're assuming he's gay. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 07, 2010 3:27 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    OtterJoq said
    Caesarea4 saidI'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't surprised that southbeach can't come up with a serious reply.

    Hey, Gov. Lingle, can we also put up to a vote the issue of slavery?
    (I need a little bit of help around the house. Don't you?)


    I'm just surprised he took time out of his celebration of the Hawaii decision to post something.

    Self-loathing takes a lot out of one's schedule, after all.

    Now...WHERE ARE MY DAMN PEANUTS, STEWARDESS?


    lol Otterjoq you're assuming he's gay. icon_wink.gif


    Well, he says he's in a "monogamous relationship," but you're right...that could just be a subtle reference to his right hand.

    However, he does have one of the most obvious cases of "gay face" I've yet seen, so, sadly, yes...I believe he is a member of the community.
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    Jul 07, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Can't you guys just comment on the topic?


    Well, what do you think of the topic?
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    Jul 07, 2010 4:04 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    meninlove said
    OtterJoq said
    Caesarea4 saidI'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't surprised that southbeach can't come up with a serious reply.

    Hey, Gov. Lingle, can we also put up to a vote the issue of slavery?
    (I need a little bit of help around the house. Don't you?)


    I'm just surprised he took time out of his celebration of the Hawaii decision to post something.

    Self-loathing takes a lot out of one's schedule, after all.

    Now...WHERE ARE MY DAMN PEANUTS, STEWARDESS?


    lol Otterjoq you're assuming he's gay. icon_wink.gif

    And once again, I become the point of conversation instead of the topic itself. I really do occupy quite a large part of your brains.... icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Can't you guys just comment on the topic?


    Don't flatter yourself; it's just that you're such an easy target.

    Peanuts?
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    Jul 07, 2010 5:52 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidThey claim to only be concerned about "protecting the sanctity of marriage", but vetoing civil union legislation proves that what Republicans actually want is to keep gay Americans second class citizens.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_hawaii_civil_unions


    Pfft, you didn't post the video of them CELEBRATING.



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    Jul 08, 2010 12:00 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    viveutvivas said
    southbeach1500 said
    Can't you guys just comment on the topic?


    Well, what do you think of the topic?

    I already posted my thoughts on the topic (which is, as stated by RickRick, "vetoing civil union legislation proves that what Republicans actually want is to keep gay Americans second class citizens").


    Hey, there are lots of bad Democrats, including the Ft. Lauderdale mayor you cited elsewhere.

    And there are good Republicans...There's Olympia Snowe, and...well, I'm sure there are others.

    But, to my knowledge, only one major political party in this country has actually CODIFIED their hatred of our community by including criminalization of homosexual activity in the platforms in two states.

    And now, the topic addressed in this thread.

    You'll pardon me if I still don't regret my decision to leave the Republican party in the '80s. They certainly aren't acting like a party that wants me back, anyway.

    Thoughts?
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    Jul 08, 2010 1:18 AM GMT
    Thoughts? Well, two of Bill's relatives are very wealthy US Republicans, very nice and warm people and they love us dearly. They don't talk about politics except to say that many Repubs are not being represented by the party. They were thrilled that we got married.

    -Doug
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    Jul 08, 2010 6:06 AM GMT
    besides being a bigot, the governor is a spineless coward. she hides behind this idea of 'let the people vote on this because its important.' does she not understand that the U.S. is a republic? that is why we elect people to REPRESENT us in government, so we don't have to vote on every single issue ourselves. if that's what she thinks then why have elected officials at all? let';s put everything up for a vote!

    oh, and for those who'd say, 'not all republicans are like that,' i have republicans friends who are very supportive of gays and are embarrassed by the nutjobs.' well, what have those good republicans done for us? who among them are standing up for equal marriage, legal recognition, etc.?
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    Jul 08, 2010 6:18 AM GMT
    shoelessj saidbesides being a bigot, the governor is a spineless coward. she hides behind this idea of 'let the people vote on this because its important.' does she not understand that the U.S. is a republic? that is why we elect people to REPRESENT us in government, so we don't have to vote on every single issue ourselves. if that's what she thinks then why have elected officials at all? let';s put everything up for a vote!

    oh, and for those who'd say, 'not all republicans are like that,' i have republicans friends who are very supportive of gays and are embarrassed by the nutjobs.' well, what have those good republicans done for us? who among them are standing up for equal marriage, legal recognition, etc.?


    Really good points! Perhaps it's a matter of being like those christians showing up at Pride and saying sorry for what so many have done to gays in the name of their faith (that was big!). Good Repubs need to rise up in a concerted revolt and take back their party from the sociopathic nutjobs.

    lol, what can I say? I'm a Canadian liberal and don't believe in painting all people in another party with one brush.

    -Doug
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    Jul 08, 2010 6:22 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidI AM SOUTHBEACH1500! HEAR ME ROAR!!!!
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    Jul 08, 2010 6:25 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    And once again, I become the point of conversation instead of the topic itself. I really do occupy quite a large part of your brains...


    No, you don't become the point of conversation. Your sheer stupidity does.


    southbeach1500 said
    Can't you guys just comment on the topic?

    Can't you stop making 85 new threads a day and then delete them when you decide you're losing the argument again?
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    Jul 08, 2010 6:29 AM GMT
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    Proof the Christianity can even penetrate remote islands that used to have culture and convert diversity into mindless fatasses that support writing discrimination into the legislation to honor some dude who probably didn't exist 2,000 years ago. That's about as rational as pissing on someone because a robot from the future told you to do so.
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    Jul 08, 2010 11:57 AM GMT
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    And once again, I become the point of conversation instead of the topic itself. I really do occupy quite a large part of your brains.... icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Can't you guys just comment on the topic?



    Everyone appears to be staying on topic. If anything, you derailed it by posting a response requesting that we stay on topic.

    Stop flattering yourself. As usual, you made yourself the point of conversation by posting your ridiculous response. It's not about you, and when it is about you, it is never good.
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    Jul 08, 2010 12:03 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAll Republicans believe that gays should be first denied all civil rights. Having accomplished that, gays will then be viewed as less than human and it will make the incarceration of gays in concentration camps a logical next step. And of course, once in the concentration camps, the Republicans will then engage in mass extermination of the gays.

    I'm shocked that it took a person of your intelligence this long to figure out what the Republicans are planning.


    It's a cunning plan: by posting this it makes the real, milder homophobia of the Republicans and republican party look more moderate and acceptable.