cutting (No not myself haha)

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    Jul 08, 2010 12:31 AM GMT
    If your beginning a cutting phase and you want to lose excess fat, is cardio really necessary, or can I just lose the fat by consuming less calories? I know it will probably take longer, but will the end result be the same? I won't lose any extra fat by doing cardio, it would just happen quicker, right? Also Im afraid to do cardio, because I don't want to lose muscle mass while cutting. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks
  • EricLA

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    Jul 08, 2010 2:06 AM GMT
    Yes, you can lose fat by consuming fewer calories than you take in. And yes, it's slower. But, you will not lose muscle mass while cutting unless you're really depriving yourself of food, which I'm pretty sure you'd notice.

    In fact, you may want to increase your protein intake to help fuel muscle growth. Also, I generally attack my workout as if it's cardio. I try to keep breaks between sets and exercises to as short as possible to keep my heart rate up.

    I've always had a pretty fast metabolism, so I don't really watch what I eat, though I eat reasonably healthy and not too large of portions. I don't take supplements. And I don't do much cardio -- I do just ten minutes on the elliptical as a warm up, then do a quick stretch, and on to my workout.

    Personally, you already look pretty successful at cutting as you are.
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    Jul 08, 2010 3:29 AM GMT
    naivenewbie saidIf your beginning a cutting phase and you want to lose excess fat, is cardio really necessary, or can I just lose the fat by consuming less calories? I know it will probably take longer, but will the end result be the same? I won't lose any extra fat by doing cardio, it would just happen quicker, right? Also Im afraid to do cardio, because I don't want to lose muscle mass while cutting. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks


    the books i've read by body builders say that to get really ripped you have to have a caloric deficit...and the best way to do that is exercise. and the best exercise is cardio mixed with resistance training.

    if your caloric deficit is too great, you will lose muscle mass. so it's a good idea to keep track of your calories eaten and your calories spent in exercise.

    body builders keep track of everything they eat and everything they do. they know exactly where they are at all times with respect to their caloric deficit AND their macro nutrients (protein, carbs, and fat). there is no other way to do it. well, there is another way, but it's blind and you'd be basically just guessing.

    you need to aim to lose about 1.5 pounds of fat per week, or about 5200 calories per week...that's about 720 per day. if you go higher than that, eventually you will go into starvation mode and your insulin levels will screw up your metabolism.

    the other thing i've read from several body builders is that when you are cutting you can NOT, by definition, gain muscle mass. i've heard arguments both ways, but it makes sense that if you are working in a caloric deficit, that you can't build muscle...which requires a caloric surplus.

    so, from what i've heard, when you're ripping you can only hope to keep the mass you have, and then when you get where you want, begin the bulking process.

    just my .02.
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    Jul 08, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    Hmmmm...
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    Jul 08, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    sometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............
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    Jul 08, 2010 3:48 AM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............

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    Jul 08, 2010 3:51 AM GMT
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    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............

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    Jul 08, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    I'll burn that damn pink cone after I cut you! icon_mad.gif
  • EricLA

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    Jul 08, 2010 4:38 AM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............


    There are other ways to let the bad things out that don't involve cutting...
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    Jul 08, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    EricLA said
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............


    There are other ways to let the bad things out that don't involve cutting...


    like going #2.
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    Jul 08, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    sublstyley said
    EricLA said
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............


    There are other ways to let the bad things out that don't involve cutting...


    like going #2.


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    Jul 08, 2010 5:04 AM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite said
    sublstyley said
    EricLA said
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............


    There are other ways to let the bad things out that don't involve cutting...


    like going #2.


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    Jul 08, 2010 6:42 AM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite said
    sublstyley said
    EricLA said
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............


    There are other ways to let the bad things out that don't involve cutting...


    like going #2.


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    Jul 08, 2010 2:38 PM GMT
    on point....

    do HIIT. If you keep it short and intense it doesn't mess up your muscles. We are talking MAX of 30 mins, which includes warm up and cool down time. You can do a good workout in 15 minutes.

    Hmm.... maybe I should do that again...


    What you DO want to avoid with your concerns are long steady state cardio sessions (eg. an hour and a half run)
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    Jul 09, 2010 5:04 AM GMT
    Bunjamon said
    GuerrillaSodomite said
    sublstyley said
    EricLA said
    GuerrillaSodomite saidsometimes I cut myself to let the bad things out..............


    There are other ways to let the bad things out that don't involve cutting...


    like going #2.


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    Jul 09, 2010 5:07 AM GMT
    I was thinking a different orifice, but I guess you guys all like potty humor more than I do. icon_razz.gif
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    Jul 09, 2010 10:37 AM GMT
    Most of your top bodybuilders do little to no cardio .

    cutting as they say is made in the kitchen. I have and can testify to that fact.


    1. do heavy compound pound movements
    2. do a diet that is somewhat high in protein and good fats ( ie . olive oil flaxseed oil etc.) and lower in carbs. ur going to eat most ur carbs right before you work out and a hour after you work out.
    3. after training then do 20 to 30 min cardio at a nice intestinity best is . treadmill at 3.5 speed incline 12 to 15.
    4. do ab training 2 x a week.

    im telling u once u get this concept you will see the weight fall off. and depending on how fast u wanna lose then there are a tad more but this shall get u started.


    hope this helps any questions PM me