U.S. defends asking troops about gays

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    Jul 10, 2010 5:10 PM GMT
    A Defense Department survey sent this week to 400,000 service members asks such provocative questions as whether its troops have shared shower facilities with a gay person or if they would be comfortable using a base commissary if their neighbors were gay.

    The survey, part of what the military says is its effort to prepare for the possible integration of gays and lesbians into the armed forces, provoked immediate criticism from some human rights groups, which called the survey biased and apt to fan fears of gays in the military. ...

    "Surveying the troops is unprecedented; it did not happen in 1948 when President Truman ended segregation, and it did not happen in 1976 when the service academies opened to women," SLDN Executive Director Aubrey Sarvis said. "Even when the military placed women on ships at sea, the Pentagon did not turn to a survey on how to bring about that cultural change." [emphasis added]

    Washington Post: http://tinyurl.com/2bbvmkr


    Hmmmm .... did we survey the South about freeing the slaves?
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    Jul 11, 2010 5:25 PM GMT
    If public policies and changes in laws were dependent on the reaction of the majority (in surveys nonetheless), then minorities of any kind will be doomed forever.

    You simply cannot put the fate of the minorities in the hands of the majority. That defeats the purpose~ they wouldn't be "minorities" if their ideologies and beliefs were shared by most people.

    So in a nutshell, this is dumb.
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    Jul 11, 2010 5:30 PM GMT
    at_the_Ivy saidIf public policies and changes in laws were dependent on the reaction of the majority (in surveys nonetheless), then minorities of any kind will be doomed forever.

    You simply cannot put the fate of the minorities in the hands of the majority. That defeats the purpose~ they wouldn't be "minorities" if their ideologies and beliefs were shared by most people.

    So in a nutshell, this is dumb.


    You are so right about that. What do these idiots think, that because a gay soldier isn't going to be fired without just cause they are going to put on dresses and run around butt-fucking everyone?

    The funny thing is, when all is said and done, a few of the soldiers will come out, there will probably be some gay bashing incidents, and it will all be forgotten and barely a blip in history. The biggest story will be the unfounded angst by the right wing yahoo haters that caused all the uproar.
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    Jul 11, 2010 5:39 PM GMT
    DADT

    replaced by

    AASS

    (Ask All, Side-Step)
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    Jul 11, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidDADT

    replaced by

    AASS

    (Ask All, Side-Step)
    Or
    ASSQ

    Ask Silly Stupid Questions
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    Jul 11, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
    I found the questionnaire through Towleroad, if it helps.

    http://www.palmcenter.org/files/2010-DoD-Comprehensive-Review-Survey-of-Uniformed-Active-Duty-and-Reserve-Service-Members.pdf
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    Jul 11, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
    Why didn't they have a survey asking troops about their attitude to the actual felons that they currently allow to serve?
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    Jul 11, 2010 6:30 PM GMT
    viveutvivas saidWhy didn't they have a survey asking troops about their attitude to the actual felons that they currently allow to serve?
    Shhhhhh! You werent supposed to "tell"!icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 12, 2010 5:26 PM GMT
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell-paves-way-for-gay-sex,17698/

    "Repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Paves Way for Gay Sex Right on Battlefield, Opponents Fantasize....."
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    Jul 13, 2010 7:31 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    viveutvivas saidWhy didn't they have a survey asking troops about their attitude to the actual felons that they currently allow to serve?
    Shhhhhh! You werent supposed to "tell"!icon_lol.gif


    Felons are A-OK; they don't bugger even if they may pose a living threat to their fellow soldiers icon_smile.gif