OMG! Do you drive the same way you ride your bike?

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    Jul 12, 2010 5:57 AM GMT
    So I'm on the trail today usual.
    Lots of people is a "mufti-purpose" there are runners, walkers, bikers, bladers, skateboards,, pets, kids, strollers, all ages, languages, a real busy mix of people on the trail....normal for a nice day!

    There are a number of bikers that are just a bit too self involved and totally dressed for "the tour" and riding the expensive bikes, etc, and just going way too fast and sort of out of know the guys!...I bet you have them in your area too!....
    At any rate, the trail actually has a speed limit posted of 15 MPH...and we all know bikers can easily get past this speed....the part that got me today was "the bike geek" that was speeding, BIG TIME, on a REALLY busy section of the trail, was smoking a cigarette, texting and grabbing for something to eat out of the back of his jersey. He ran into a group of pedestrians of mixed teens, old people, little kids and their parents...literally he plowed right into them! He wrecked into the bushes and came out of the bushes PISSED at the pedestrians!
    Words were exchanged and a fist fight broke out! I couldn't freaking believe it! He got his ass handed to him in the fight.....and then the police showed up. and he was taken(with his bike in the trunk of the cruiser)....many people gave accounts and all were saying the same is just amazing...on a bike, in heavy pedestrian traffic, SMOKING?...TEXTING?, EATING?, SPEEDING?, not paying any attention to others on the trail and then starting a fight when he caused the accident?...Wow....I don't know what type of charges can be filed, and an EMT was called to check over a couple of people that he ran into and knocked over, but REALLY? Do you drive a car like you ride a bike?...Is there a correlation in there?.....icon_eek.gif damn...this guy scares me.....
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    Jul 12, 2010 6:03 AM GMT
    Yes, I do. And I have the tickets to prove it...just ask my lawyers.
    However, my accident record has been clean since 1993. Sometimes, the faster riders/drivers are the ones paying the most attention to their environment. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 12, 2010 10:37 AM GMT
    in Christchurch we have more people biking then ever, and the amount that ride of the footpath is increasing as well. The city is putting in more cycle ways but there are that group of cyclists who seem to think they own the footpath and get pretty aggro when others block their way.

    Biking for me is a great way to relax - and although I use the roads, when I am using the combined cycle/pedestrian spaces I just slow down and relax.

    I have been taken out by a couple of cars, some tram tracks and like this morning (OWCH) some black ice landed me on my arse (gunna take a while to heal), but I have never hit a pedestrian.

    If someone is aggro on a bike - I guess that they will be the same in a car - sadly! icon_cry.gif

  • calibro

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    Jul 12, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
    i think i'm a far more ballsy and skilled rider than driver
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    Jul 12, 2010 1:00 PM GMT
    I don't own a car or a bike (I'd love to have a bike but our apartment's too small to house one). However, I spend a lot of time avoiding bad drivers and bad cyclists. I just yelled at a guy in a truck yesterday who almost ran my partner and me over. He was a little shocked and just looked at me with his mouth hanging open.

    I'm really tired of people riding their bikes on the sidewalk, making pedestrians scramble to get out of their way.
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    Jul 12, 2010 1:42 PM GMT
    I've run across guys like that on trails at South Mountain Park in Phoenix. The trails are mixed-use. Usually the bikers are polite. But, every once in a while there is the idiot all geared up and moving way too fast. When they see us low life hikers they could care less... you better move out of the way or else... It's his trail not mine.
  • TexasBoeuf

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    Jul 12, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
    Might be a correlation. I'm a pretty mellow driver. Drive a SUV so nothing sporty or fast. In SF traffic I've learned to be more aggressive though. However when I bicycle in the city, I'm fast, weaving in and out of traffic, and take a lot of risks. When I'm mountain biking, even more crazy. I've broken several bones bicycling, wrecked many times, gone through several helmets, and endo'd countless times on trails. Never wrecked driving though. I think the bicycle brings the aggro side out in me more than a car/truck does.
  • CAtoFL

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    Jul 12, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
    Bullshit. This has nothing to do with being a hiker, biker, walker or stroller. There are irresponsible people of all types.

    For example, what about the walker who insists on taking up the exact middle of the path while swinging his arms around to dance to the music in his earbuds (essentially making him oblivious to everyone around him)? What about the two people who insist upon walking side-by-side on a four foot wide path, thereby blocking it to any traffic coming either way? Do these types of people drive the same way they walk or run - inconsiderate of everyone else who's supposed to be SHARING the paths?

    There are inconsiderate and irresponsible people out there of all types - not just cyclists. Get a grip.
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    Jul 12, 2010 6:19 PM GMT
    calibro saidi think i'm a far more ballsy and skilled rider than driver

    I'm in the same boat, er bike
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    Jul 12, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
    There's enough blame to go around with all types: bikers, pedestrians, drivers. At lot of it can be variable by where you are in the US, although down here in South Florida we seem to get it all at once.

    Funny, because I just had this conversation 2 days ago, with someone else who's training like me to pedal down to Key West in a few months. Here were my pet peeves:

    - Pedestrians & joggers who use the marked bike lanes in the street. The pavement markings & signs clearly say bikes only, but they apparently like them better than the sidewalk, especially the joggers. Which forces me out into the traffic lane to avoid them, and then the cars are swerving around and honking at me.

    - Other bikers who ride in the wrong direction, against the clearly-painted arrows. Almost everywhere there's a bike lane there will be one on each side of the road, for both riding directions, so it's not like riders don't have a choice.

    - Bikers who ride all over the street without following any road rules at all, cutting back & forth without warning. Tough not to avoid them with my car, and last week I had to slam on my brakes to avoid one. My reward for not hitting him? He kicked my trunk as he passed me! I couldn't reverse direction quick enough to follow him in that road section, but my partner was yelling for me to chase him. That's all I need -- a road rage arrest.

    - Drivers, many of them tourists, but locals, as well, don't know our Florida rules for bicycles in traffic. Bikes are a vehicle, too, and are allowed out in traffic on local streets so long as we obey the laws. Well, the car drivers don't think that, and honk at bikes (just as they come up alongside and startle you), yell out their windows and threaten you, and tell you to get up on the sidewalk, which is the actual violation in most places.
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    Jul 12, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
    There's a lot of asshole bikers, a lot of too slow/in the way bikers, and a lot of just bad-in-general bikers out there.... same for car drivers though... there's always someone...

    However, on my bike, I'd say I'm a lot more alert and focused than when driving a car, mostly for defensive reasons.
  • DanOmatic

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    Jul 12, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
    Serious bikers belong on the road, not on multi-purpose pedestrian paths (and nobody should ride a bike on the sidewalk), and they should obey the traffic rules. This guy was obviously a complete dumbass.

    That being said, I think cyclists get a lot of undeserved blame and motorists and non-motorists alike tend to forget that in most states it is PERFECTLY LEGAL for cyclists to ride two-abreast and that they have the same rights (and responsibilities) as motorists (there are some states where this is otherwise).

    I ride about 150 miles a week, usually with a group of very conscientious cyclists. Yet there are a lot of motorists who do the dumbest and incredibly dangerous things that endanger life and limb of innocent people just because they are inconvenienced by a few seconds waiting to pass the peloton. Nothing like having obscenties yelled at you by mothers with young children in the car, or having something thrown at you on a Sunday a.m. ride from someone on the way to Sunday church service up the road just because you're out on there on two wheels...
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    Jul 12, 2010 10:33 PM GMT
    Oh, weeeell... icon_sad.gif
    I'm a 'gentle' bike rider, but judging from how I play GTA, society is going to remember the day I'm forced to drive a car...