Fast Metabolism..... any advice?

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    Jun 01, 2007 11:02 PM GMT
    Hi.. My name is Francisco and I am 20 yrs old. I am subscribing to Ballytotalfitnes because I want to gain weight and I also want to start developing muscle. I know that it will not be easy because I won't gain weight due to my fast metabolism... Does anyone have any advice on what to do so I could gain weight and achieve the body that I want. I would appreciate if you take the time to give me some tips..

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    Jun 02, 2007 7:51 AM GMT
    i've got a very high metabolism too. the only way i've found to gain weight and muscle is to eat a hell of a lot and work out regularly. us skinny people gotta work harder than the rest!
    with each meal, i'll eat until i'm full, rest then eat another half serve of what i just had and worked out for an hour and a half 4 times a week (workout, rest, workout etc) and did cardio first before weight training (aimed for at least 75% max weights and sets). exercises that combine two or more moves like diver bomber push ups, dumbell squat thrust with shoulder presses and uneven moves like lopsided dumbbell push ups. focus on strength training 'cos the rest just follows.

    meals were comprised of equal serves of carbs, fat and protein (kangaroo meat pasta is great and stirfry with rice too). i gained around 22lbs in 10 weeks doing this and before i did this routine it took 4 years to gain 8 lbs (i was working out but not eating enough to fuel my exercise regimen). i hope this helps!
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    Jun 02, 2007 9:57 AM GMT
    You never know until you try. And you havnt tried to gain weight yet until now. So give it some time before you count yourself out. Just make sure you eat a whole lot and get a good protein shake to take after workouts and in the evening before bedtime. Cytogainer is good you can find it anywhere. And try creatine in the pill form if you can. Im not sure if Ballys sells Apex products but if they do, get that. And be sure to drink lots of water if you start taking creatine.
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    Jun 02, 2007 3:26 PM GMT
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    Jun 02, 2007 8:41 PM GMT
    I do thank you for the advice guys.... I will start looking into it.. At the same time, it is not that I want to get huge(I don't want to be over exagerated with my body)(with all respect to everyone here)...lol... but it is that I want to have a nice average build body.
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    Jun 02, 2007 9:37 PM GMT
    I am in the same situation and you need patience. Three months into intense work-out and sensible eating, I am seeing differences in my body. Trust me so will you.

    I don't subscribe to excessive eating. I feel moderate balanced eating, to prevent insulin spikes does the trick.

    I dumped my trainer who was making me force feed excessive calories.

    Think about it, its about changing lifestyle with a strong lean physique. I certainly don't plan to eat 4000 cal every day for the rest of my life.
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    Jun 04, 2007 12:26 AM GMT
    hey adam30_43206 what do you mean that you don't want to eat 4,000 calories a day? I don't understand that..lol.. It is just for me that I want to develop a lean and muscular body, not too huge like guys that I see out on the street...lol... no offense to those guys though...
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    Jun 07, 2007 2:15 PM GMT
    a typical formula to gain weight is that you have to eat more calories than you burn, but if you don't work out then it turns to fat.
    so if you're working out then you have to make up for the calories you're burning off on top of the ones you lose during the day and a little extra, not sure if that makes sense the way i'm wording it. you're going to have to eat more than you do to fuel your body or you'll be burning your gains off, you'll be defined but skinnier.
    if you want to stay lean and have more definition without gaining too much mass then do more cardio work but still do weights just less frequency.
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    Jun 08, 2007 9:21 AM GMT
    great advice guys... I found in the past that 'grazing' worked for me but now i'm travelling alot for work i find it difficult to keep eating while on the run. i've found it's handy to keep a pack of nuts such as smoked almonds and sometimes fruit next to my car seat for when i need to eat while i drive. the main problem i have it seems is that i can never eat enough... i'm always feeling hungry, then i fill up very quickly when i do eat.
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    Jun 08, 2007 7:25 PM GMT
    I too am a hard-gainer (and have been slacking off at the gym lately too boot!) The key is eat smaller meals throughout the day and initially stick to basic movements & lift heavy to put on mass.

    This is a sample workout I found online: http://bodybuildingpro.com/ectomorphtraining.html
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    Jun 08, 2007 7:30 PM GMT
    Oh and I feel hungry ALL the time too. I don't have a secret for that, other than to eat bulky-but-healthy carbs (sweet potatos, oatmeal, brown rice) or lots of dark veggies (spinach, brocoli, carrots), all of which will make you feel full.
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    Jun 09, 2007 9:41 AM GMT
    cheers for those tips, i'll check out that site mate. i have been eating broccoli and brown rice and carrots etc. of late, so i must be on to it!
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    Jun 11, 2007 2:29 AM GMT
    Pizza and beer.

    Buffet.
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    Jun 11, 2007 2:40 AM GMT
    Whey Protein worked for me. One shake every morning with a multi-vitamin.
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    Jun 11, 2007 3:26 AM GMT
    Jesus, I'm gonna start offering myself as a cellulite transplant donor.

    I really do not understand why all you thin guys wanna gain weight. Most of you look great.

    Eventually your metabolism will slow down and you will pray to Jesus to bring back the ectomorphic days of your youth.

    One of my gigs is restaurant reviewing, so have your surgeon call mine and we'll get a transplant going soon.
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    Jun 11, 2007 3:28 AM GMT
    obscene: I knew it! You're really Ruth Reichl, aren't you? Ruth, that has to be among your better disguises. Bravo.
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    Jun 11, 2007 3:29 AM GMT
    LOL, I love Ruth. I had dinner with her two years ago and, yes, we swapped bodies.
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    Jun 11, 2007 4:14 AM GMT
    Obscenewish, take me with you to dinner!
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    Jun 11, 2007 2:19 PM GMT
    hey there obscenewish... gotta love it I know, but i'm also lactose intolerant, so there's very little fat in my diet and i'll probably stay relatively lean for a while to come. My father is nearly 71, he still has a great body. hope my genes follow his side.
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    Jun 18, 2007 3:28 AM GMT
    You have to start keeping track of your calories and keep a food journal. I'm a hard gainer and I am eating 4,000 calories per day. It's actually not that hard - if you work out intensely, your body craves constant nourishment (or at least mine does). You have to organize your life so that you're eating five or six high-calorie meals per day. Don't overtrain your muscles. There is no need to do more than three workouts per week. Proper recovery is key. Eating is key. It's only been a month and a half that I have been trying to gain weight and people are already making comments that I am looking built. Eating is really the most important thing you can do. And you do not have to maintain that level of eating once you have achieved your weight gaining goals.
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    Jun 20, 2007 10:11 AM GMT
    who said skinny guys have to work out harder than the rest!!!! thats crazy talk. If you have a fast metabolism the last thing you wanna do is work out more, and everyone should be working hard or going home anyway!

    Quite simply if you work out too much you unnecesarily burn calories that you need to build muscle. Metabolism is the rate in which food is turned to energy and not the rate muscle is built at.

    So as others have said get to know your calorie intake and macro split, and find an eficient training plan so that you are not eating in to the required calories to build.

    Now dont get me wrong here as Im not advocating eating junk but dont shy away from high calorie foods such as nuts and even sugar (gosh I said the S word they will freak!) You need maximum calories minimal intake. Fat good bad or ugly is not the best route totake despite a recent article on here which was total crap. Good fats are just as bad for you if you consume too many
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    Jun 20, 2007 10:14 AM GMT
    another point to mention is dont jut ramp up the calories over night. Find out what you are on now you'll be shocked as its common for gainers to overestimate and losers to underestimate.

    When you know your level start to increae it by 200 calories every two weeks, the body will sapp up the additional calories but wont simply adapt. if you start adding fat then simply clip it back
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    Jun 21, 2007 1:16 PM GMT
    innerathlete, thanks for the tips mate! that's probably my biggest problem- not eating enough. i'm eating all the right things and getting plenty of protein but i'm yet to find the discipline to really plan my food intake in terms of time of day, and amount of food. i've been noticing that since getting back into the gym i'm feeling hungry every 3 hours. it's so hard to find stuff to snack on between normal meals with alergies to both milk and oats! i have to read every label when i'm in the supermarket. I have recently found a whey based protein supplement with almost all the lactose removed and naturally sweetened- it's so far agreeing with me!
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    Jun 21, 2007 1:54 PM GMT
    The whey concentrate I buy in bulk is "virtually fat free and lactose free." I mention it because it might be less expensive than the sweetened/flavored premixed stuff.
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    Jun 21, 2007 3:30 PM GMT
    Mix your own formula and flavor, lactose free & cheap:

    proteinfactory.com