ethical investing

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    Feb 09, 2008 9:35 PM GMT
    this is just something my friends and i have discussed.

    if you had $1,000,000 and you HAD to invest it in 1 of 2 of the following companies. which would you choose and why?

    Company 1 - a Major Tobacco Company. Manufacturer of cigarettes, cigars, hookah, really anything tobacco related.

    Company 2 - a Major alcohol company. beers a plenty, broad range of spirits and liqueurs, wines and the like.


    they are both equally powerful in the business world, and sell products across North America.

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    Feb 10, 2008 1:15 AM GMT
    I would go with the alcohol conglomerate. While both companies are in the business of harming people's bodies I perceive the alchohol company to be the lesser of the two evils. A little bit of alcohol has been shown to have good health benefits. Medical doctors and studies have been touting the benefits of moderate alcohol consumption, particularly the heart and circulatory benefits. I can't say the same for the tobacco company though. I havn't come across any modern medical study or health experts suggesting people smoke a ciggerete or two each day to increase their life span.
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    Feb 10, 2008 11:57 AM GMT
    Must I choose? I thought this was going to be a thread about ethical investing and neither of these choices is ethical. Smoking causes problems with the lungs and heart. Alcohol causes problems with the entire alimentary tract from the throat to the colon and many of the organs along the way like the liver and pancreas. Alcohol also causes so many social problems. I have never heard of someone smoking a cigarette and beating up on his or her spouse. I have heard that beer is a good drink for replacing electrolytes and wine is good for the heart but these goals can be accomplished with a Gatorade or grape juice. Smoking is supposed to decrease the risk for developing Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. So if I must choose I guess I would choose the tobacco company although tobacco companies have traditionally supported the Republican Party which is another strike against them. My advice is do not invest in either.
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    Feb 10, 2008 12:11 PM GMT
    Major alcohol company, babyyyyyyyy!!! Let's parteeeeyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

    >>>and deal with charitable foundations later *hic!*
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 10, 2008 2:26 PM GMT
    Well since I am a financial advisor, I can't answer the question based on the premise... but let me say
    any person should consider the objectives of the investment, the goals, timeframe, taxation, liquidity and risks.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 10, 2008 3:51 PM GMT
    Neither...put it all on APPLE...Thanks to the iPod,a and now the iPhone, Macs are finally cool to have, and they're going to take over the computer world
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    Feb 10, 2008 4:03 PM GMT
    For me - neither one. I invest in seed stage companies in software, communications/networking, messaging, semi-conductors and information services.

    The economics of a typical business must be such that it is not capital intensive and provides for high sustainable gross margins. The combination of these two elements allows for a high, internally sustainable growth rate. These characteristics are highly valued in the public markets or by potential acquirers.

    But if I had to choose one of the two companies suggested above, I would choose number 2, since alcohol can be consumed with care, and small amounts are actually good for us.
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    Feb 10, 2008 4:19 PM GMT
    both but more in the alcohol company. a diverse portfolio is best, and tobacco companies are slowly losing business in my opinion
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    Feb 10, 2008 4:56 PM GMT
    http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/

    http://www.corpgov.net/forums/commentary/entine2.html

    http://www.themoneyalert.com/SociallResponsibleInvesting.html
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    Feb 10, 2008 5:22 PM GMT
    this is just supposed to be hypothetical. and ya you're supposed to have to invest all million into one company. it's just to see which kind of company you would choose. has nothign to do with investmenet skills.

    one of my friends chose the tobacco company, because they feel alot less social impact from smoking than drinking. for ecxample, less car crashes because of driving under the influence of cigs.