Just got my a** kicked by my trainer.... day 1

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    Jul 13, 2010 3:54 AM GMT
    All I can say is...

    Oh.
    My.
    God.

    First of all, I have very little cardio endurance. When I work out, I dont push myself to the limit. I do the exercises and I skidaddle from the gym. I am usually sore the next day so I figure i'm working hard enough.

    He really pushed me to the limit, and I hit the ceiling very quickly. About halfway through the workout, I started sweating PROFUSELY and I had to excuse myself because I thought I was going to throw up. Oddly, I hadn't eaten much so maybe that was part of the issue. Thankfully I didnt vom... and after 5 minutes of chilling out in the bathroom, I felt much better. We did a couple more low key exercises and he sent me home.

    Since I dont have much time to go to the gym each week, his goal/plan for me was to try and really do a full body workout 3X a week. So that meant me doing these squat-into-shoulder press things... and then more squat shoulder press things with a 20 lb exercise ball. After 6 sets of those, my legs were like jelly... lol.

    Anyway. So that was interesting. The whole time I was slightly embarrassed of my lack of endurance, and I was trying to make jokes about it. I asked him to just lie to me and tell me that he's had clients who were in worse shape than I am. lol. He laughed and said, "oh yeah, I have some senior aged clients..." lol. He was half joking... I think :-)

    Anyway, one thing that I think contributed to my horrible experience was that I went having eaten relatively little that day. A 6:30 appt is a weird time for me, because its early for me to eat dinner... so I dont know what/ when I should eat so I have appropriate energy and whatever for the gym? Also... how do people feel about using supplements such as NOxplode and Force Factor? Any good/awful/ok/amazing experiences?

    Any and all info is appreciated.

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    Jul 13, 2010 4:20 AM GMT
    Well sounds like you got your moneys worth! I would say try to have a meal 2-3 hours before your session and try to have a small snack a half hour or so before your workout so you aren't working out on an empty stomach. I use NOxplode before my workouts (half a cup) and it helps give me a little extra energy for my workouts. Try and find out what works best for you, people are different. Not eating can definitely have an effect on your workout so make sure you eat. And don't consume a massive amount of food before a workout because it can make you sick just like working out on an empty stomach can. Hope this helps!
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    Jul 13, 2010 5:14 AM GMT
    First I commend you on your efforts...

    At least you got in there and did the thing, you gave it what you could. Second, there should never be a point where your literally killing yourself to complete a workout. If your drained take a quick break, recoup, re-attack.

    Food before a workout can be a good/bad thing, I think you know that anything heavy can hamper the benefits of your work out, while I think some toast and coffee or Caffeine loaded supplement (NO-Explode, Black Powder, White Flood, Jack3d, etc.) will give you insane amounts of energy.

    You could take a more traditional route and plan your meals around your workout time like eat a meal 2-3 hours before then have some coffee for energy.

    Don't feel embarrassed we all have to start somewhere, just be glad you started and didn't put it off as some ppl would.

    Best wishes to you and your continued efforts!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 13, 2010 5:23 AM GMT
    MikeAP35 saidI use NOxplode before my workouts (half a cup) and it helps give me a little extra energy for my workouts.

    Ricovelas saidCaffeine loaded supplement (NO-Explode, Black Powder, White Flood, Jack3d, etc.) will give you insane amounts of energy.

    To be honest with you, I'd say save your money and get plenty of rest/sleep and a cup of coffee or two is all you really need for energy.

    However, from your experience today, you're DEFINITELY getting your money's worth. To the point of throwing up? Man, he's pushing every fiber of your being even your stomach muscles are contracting HARD!

    Looking forward to your progress in a few weeks. Keep us posted!
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    Jul 13, 2010 7:18 AM GMT
    Don't feel bad, we don't all have the same cardio skill.
    I'm migth be just like you, if I don't have eneough time between sets, my heart rate skyrocked.
    I do a lot of cardio, I'm a former pro athlete, and started working out some 38 years ago, so I don't qualify as a beginner or untrained guy.
    my hearth rate on wake up, when well rested, is around 46/48 pulse minute, which is excellent.
    My hearth rate during a very slow jogging (when you could go faster just walking), is never under 140 (far to hight), 155/160 on a 30mn jogg at reasonable speed, 170/180 if I enjoy myself a bit.
    Even when I was international athlete, the standard doc exam when you do situps and get you heart rate before, just after and 1m30minutes after gave me result poorer than a regular couch potatoes.
    Yet my hearth is heatlhy (effort test/echo/ECG), it's just the way I'm build, my physiology : my hearth go up very fast and slow down very slow.

    Don't be ahsme of what you are, be proud about what you do out of it.
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    Jul 13, 2010 2:37 PM GMT
    First of all, let me just add to everyone else on here - congrats on taking that next step. Don't beat yourself up that you can't do this or that - everyone starts out at their own level and you're just starting.

    My only advice is to make sure that you have some kind of snack about an hour before your session - a couple of bananas, maybe, or a nice handful of almonds. Also you might want to have some gatorade to make sure your electrolytes are boosted.

    But keep at it! You'll see results really quickly and be able to look back and think, "A month ago I couldn't do this!"
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    Jul 13, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
    i have the same problem. cardio endurance is definitely my most underdeveloped skills set. i get so nauseated... i'm beginning to wonder if it's a symptom of the heart failure my biological father had...
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    Jul 13, 2010 2:42 PM GMT
    You're lucky. I see so many people paying for trainers who don't do a thing. Sometimes don't even pay attention. You found a good one and you'll make great progress. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 13, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    Congrats on getting your ass kicked, and fighting back with everything you have! icon_biggrin.gif

    My personal energy food for the gym is mashed potatoes and brown gravy. For some reason that does more for me than any supplement I've ever taken. A cup of coffee or tea does well, too (caffeinated, of course).

    After my workout I like to have a banana, apple, or other fruits, and some milk and a few slices of deli meat (no bread) for the protein.
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    Jul 13, 2010 2:56 PM GMT
    Sounds like you had a good work out. Don't get discouraged because you were surprised by your performance. The trainer's job is to push you to the limit. Additionally on your first visit with a trainer, the trainer has to assess what you are capable of doing and what areas you need work on. You will eventually start to see improvements, and then the trainer will progress your workout even more to make it difficult again.

    I typically recommend eating something before working out. Nothing heavy. Usually a protein bar, protein shake, or something light just so you are not working out on an empty stomach.

    Alot of people recommend NOXPLODE for extra energy, focus, and pumps with their workout. I tried this stuff about a year ago. Although i did have alot of energy and felt pumped after lifting, I also got very dizzy with extreme exertion. About one month after taking NOEXPLODE, got appendicitis. Not sure if their was any connection, but have heard anecdotal evidence from a few people that it may cause some gastrointestinal issues in some people.
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    Jul 13, 2010 3:11 PM GMT
    Sorry to disagree with most of you but......if you got to the point where you wanted to vomit it was a TOTAL OVERLOAD. Talk to your trainer about starting out slower and working up to the overload. You say you didn't eat before the workout? Trust me, next time you go and you do eat and work to that point of overload, you are going to vomit. Do snacks every two hours duing the day.
    Not only that, but for a first timer to experience that is exactly what kills it for people, and they loose interest in going to the gym.
    Not a dam thing wrong with starting out slow and letting your body work up and adjust to more challenging workouts.
    In my opinion you can always tell the 3 types of guys at the gym:
    Steroid guy=huge bulk and a lot of defination
    Supplements = muscular look, no defination
    Natural= very defined and muscular
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    Jul 13, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
    I'm the opposite. Cardio is my strong point, and weight training is something I struggle with.

    Good job though! Let me know how good it goes, I'm looking into doing the same thing here in DC
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    Jul 16, 2010 3:03 PM GMT
    SFNavigator saidSorry to disagree with most of you but......if you got to the point where you wanted to vomit it was a TOTAL OVERLOAD.

    Disagree...at least for me.

    Though I do consume just enough food/shake for energy/fuel before workout, I push myself HARD to the brink of losing my lunch is MY gauge of exertion that seems to work for my body. (I say 'brink' because I don't want to push myself over the line and puke all over the floor.) This happens every once in a while and oft times during leg workouts especially squats.

    This may not work for everyone but it works for me.
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    Jul 16, 2010 3:10 PM GMT
    SFNavigator saidSorry to disagree with most of you but......if you got to the point where you wanted to vomit it was a TOTAL OVERLOAD. Talk to your trainer about starting out slower and working up to the overload. You say you didn't eat before the workout? Trust me, next time you go and you do eat and work to that point of overload, you are going to vomit. Do snacks every two hours duing the day.
    Not only that, but for a first timer to experience that is exactly what kills it for people, and they loose interest in going to the gym.
    Not a dam thing wrong with starting out slow and letting your body work up and adjust to more challenging workouts.
    In my opinion you can always tell the 3 types of guys at the gym:
    Steroid guy=huge bulk and a lot of defination
    Supplements = muscular look, no defination
    Natural= very defined and muscular



    i disagree, and so does my NASM certification. why avoid the overload on day one only to build up to overload later? why not from day one? the body adapts VERY QUICKLY. so quickly, in fact, that you need constant variety to avoid plateau.
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    Jul 16, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
    Update:

    Had my second session with him yesterday. Was very good. HE pushed me hard but I didnt feel the need to vomit. AND... I completed all the exercises he wanted me to. I had eaten a good lunch and a snack, also took one scoop of NOXplode... so perhaps that helped! I felt good afterwards.

    We had a really good laugh when I was doing shoulder presses with dumbells and my arms were REALLY fatigued by this point... and I lifted them up for my last rep, and my arms just slowly gave way and both dumbells hit my head (lightly) one at a time, and I said, "shit, shit" as each one hit me. haha. He was like, "wow, I've never seen that and I've been doing this for 5 years"

    As for my jelly-legs.... its still hard for me to stand up. lol. This is the kind of recovery that will take me a week. Sigh.

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    Jul 16, 2010 3:19 PM GMT
    ZbmwM5 saidUpdate:

    Had my second session with him yesterday. Was very good. HE pushed me hard but I didnt feel the need to vomit. AND... I completed all the exercises he wanted me to. I had eaten a good lunch and a snack, also took one scoop of NOXplode... so perhaps that helped! I felt good afterwards.

    We had a really good laugh when I was doing shoulder presses with dumbells and my arms were REALLY fatigued by this point... and I lifted them up for my last rep, and my arms just slowly gave way and both dumbells hit my head (lightly) one at a time, and I said, "shit, shit" as each one hit me. haha. He was like, "wow, I've never seen that and I've been doing this for 5 years"

    As for my jelly-legs.... its still hard for me to stand up. lol. This is the kind of recovery that will take me a week. Sigh.


    Yay for soreness, jelly-legs and headbangers.