If there is a cure for HIV infection what would you be willing to pay for that cure?

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    Jul 13, 2010 5:28 PM GMT
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    I decided to edit this post after reading the first few entries.

    Most have assumed that a cure would be available to all people in all countries. There was a comment for instance from someone in Canada referencing mostly free healthcare. There is no gurantee government could bare the cost, even tohugh HIV infection rates are relatively low in the first world.

    To obtain an HIV cure, would you propose your country go to war to obtain the cure?

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    Jul 13, 2010 5:37 PM GMT
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    Cures for terminal illnesses should not have a price tag.
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    Jul 13, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
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    Cures for terminal illnesses should not have a price tag.


    There will always be a cost to producing such a cure. How do you propose paying for that?
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    Jul 13, 2010 6:25 PM GMT
    meninlove said Yes.

    Neither of us has HIV or AIDS, but we would gladly pay to save another life.


    My hat is off to you Gentlemen. You have, through statment, do what few on RealJock would not do. You will make the choice to pay without invoking the the force of government to take from one to give to another.

    The real test will be to see if you stick to that when the time comes. It might not be as far away as you think.
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    Jul 13, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
    meninlove said Yes.

    Neither of us has HIV or AIDS, but we would gladly pay to save another life.
    Like a donation for life cause...that would be great. I would too. But the price will be monstrous at first more than likely.
  • Geoedward

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    Jul 13, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
    I would give up my life savings to be HIV-. What ever it takes!
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    Jul 13, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
    Why not just be careful? There is a cure (for future generations) and it's called being safe.
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    Jul 13, 2010 8:59 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
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    Cures for terminal illnesses should not have a price tag.


    Is HIV considered terminal?

    I'd pay whatever I had too if I were + Id be doing myself and the community a huge favor.
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:00 PM GMT
    JoeB1986 saidWhy not just be careful? There is a cure (for future generations) and it's called being safe.


    In a perfect world, that makes sense....
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:01 PM GMT
    Pay? I live in Canada, bitches!..icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:03 PM GMT
    I would raise money for it.
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    I think a better question would be, if there was a cure... would you have BB sex with everyone??
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
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    JoeB1986 saidWhy not just be careful? There is a cure (for future generations) and it's called being safe.


    In a perfect world, that makes sense....


    Haha I know, I have a problem with being overly optimistic when it comes to others. Eh... maybe one day people will learn... icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Delivis said[/cite]Pay? I live in Canada, bitches!..icon_smile.gif[/qIuote] are medical services free in Canada?
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:10 PM GMT
    CMTinLA said[quote][cite]Delivis said[/cite]Pay? I live in Canada, bitches!..icon_smile.gif[/qIuote] are medical services free in Canada?


    uh, yes, in effect at point of use. It might also help you to know that Canada is a large country to the north of the USA
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:10 PM GMT
    I'd be willing to pay whatever it costs. Money would be no objective.
    Even though I don't have it myself, I know people who do, and it would be worth it to me to drain my entire trust to cure them.
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    Jul 14, 2010 2:35 AM GMT
    CMTinLA said[quote][cite]Delivis said[/cite]Pay? I live in Canada, bitches!..icon_smile.gif[/qIuote] are medical services free in Canada?


    lol, no they're not free. Everyone pays monthly.

    Like a cure for cancer; if premiums had to go up to pay for it, we'd gladly pay more.
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    Jul 14, 2010 2:38 AM GMT
    twomack saidicon_idea.gif

    I decided to edit this post after reading the first few entries.

    Most have assumed that a cure would be available to all people in all countries. There was a comment for instance from someone in Canada referencing mostly free healthcare. There is no gurantee government could bare the cost, even tohugh HIV infection rates are relatively low in the first world.

    To obtain an HIV cure, would you propose your country go to war to obtain the cure?



    Dear god, twomack, that's a horrible thing you just did. That stinks. We had to delete our answers of yes, because your original question was would we pay for a cure, not would we go to war.

    Canada's healthcare is not free. Do some research.

    Both of us are a little stunned at how tacky your edit is.

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    Jul 14, 2010 2:56 AM GMT
    I'm sorry, but no. No no no.

    I'd be fine paying the exact cost it would take to manufacture and ship the vaccine, but if someone's trying to get filthy rich off of this? No. Not cool. People are dying horrible deaths from this around the world, and you're going to make a quick buck?

    Fuck that.
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    Jul 14, 2010 3:00 AM GMT
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    I decided to edit this post after reading the first few entries.

    Most have assumed that a cure would be available to all people in all countries. There was a comment for instance from someone in Canada referencing mostly free healthcare. There is no gurantee government could bare the cost, even tohugh HIV infection rates are relatively low in the first world.

    To obtain an HIV cure, would you propose your country go to war to obtain the cure?



    In all honesty..being poz myself and in taking my meds....I'm much more health-oriented and perhaps spiritually more inclined than I was before. Would I pay for a cure? No....and even if I did...what guarantee would I have that I will live to a ripe old age?

    Going to war to obtain a cure from another country? Certainly not! This world is already suffering and to declare war on another country just because they have the cure to destroy the HIV virus would displace if not kill innocent people. That's a heavy load of Karma!
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    Jul 14, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    1. I would give up everything I have to help my poz friends be cured.

    2. There are already HUGE sums of money being spent on meds by the positive community, their insurance companies and the government (us) . It seems likely a cure couldn't cost more than 5-10 years worth of meds?? A decent payback by any measure.
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    Jul 14, 2010 3:10 AM GMT
    How low can you go, twomack? And how ignorant can you be?

    Just because someone (a liberal) wants universal healthcare doesn't mean that they are not willing to pay a high amount for a cure. They may take another job or get a second mortgage on their home. People from anywhere on the political spectrum do what is necessary. Shame on you for politicizing this predicament.

    But then again, should I be surprised this is coming from you?
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Jul 14, 2010 3:15 AM GMT
    Anyone in the U.S. who thinks we have not already, for some long time, been at war with our own government in the battle to cure HIV has either no memory of the pandemic's earliest years, or has fallen victim to the belief that such war is no longer.

    Yes, I'd go to war to get it - as we are already at war for such, and I would never blame anyone else for doing the same.

    Life has value, all life. But if the value of a select few is not recognized by the controlling powers, in peace, then I confess to believing it requires the sacrifice of life to ensure the sanctity of those forsaken. A wicked paradox, but such is the OP's rather devious query.

    Sorry, but I've had my arm up to my elbow in the ashes of far, far too many a good and brave man to believe "any price" precludes war. It does not.
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    Jul 14, 2010 3:19 AM GMT
    You're probably already paying for the cure through taxes that make their way to publicly funded research (federal, state..)... but for a vaccination should it become available? I imagine anyone infected would pay whatever they could to get it. And if it's a prophylactic vaccination, I'd pay for it within reason just to be doubly safe - if it exceeded whatever I decided my price range to be I'd have to pass on it, otherwise I'd just continue being as safe as possible...which I guess I'd do even if I got the vaccination. Hmm.
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    Jul 14, 2010 3:23 AM GMT
    Hermes63 said
    twomack saidicon_idea.gif

    I decided to edit this post after reading the first few entries.

    Most have assumed that a cure would be available to all people in all countries. There was a comment for instance from someone in Canada referencing mostly free healthcare. There is no gurantee government could bare the cost, even tohugh HIV infection rates are relatively low in the first world.

    To obtain an HIV cure, would you propose your country go to war to obtain the cure?



    In all honesty..being poz myself and in taking my meds....I'm much more health-oriented and perhaps spiritually more inclined than I was before. Would I pay for a cure? No....and even if I did...what guarantee would I have that I will live to a ripe old age?

    Going to war to obtain a cure from another country? Certainly not! This world is already suffering and to declare war on another country just because they have the cure to destroy the HIV virus would displace if not kill innocent people. That's a heavy load of Karma!


    Not to mention the fact that very few governments, especially those of countries medically advanced enough to find a cure, would have or want that level of control over their medical communities. Any scientist that found a cure, no matter where they were in the world, would be screaming it from the roof-tops and the submitting all their data to everyone else in the world medical community to confirm it. Twomack, your scenario doesn't make a lick of sense.

    And considering my meds cost about 4,000 a month, my insurance company might consider a couple hundred thousand a better deal than a lifetime of paying for meds. that is if you want to address your original question about monetary costs.