life, death and nature

  • Regbial

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    Jul 13, 2010 5:40 PM GMT
    Ok so I just went for a jog with my dog, a small 10 year old jack russel terrier. I stop to catch a break, and I take him off his leash, so he can roam, and you know, be free for a few seconds.

    He pisses on a tree, then a bench, then out of nowhere he scurries to something on the grass and bites it, then I see all the feathers. Takes me a minute to understand what is going on, and then I yell "STOOOP!". The pigeon tries to get away but my dog just bites again, harder.. Every bite hurt me inside I swear. Then I grabbed my dog and reprimanded him (saying "NO!").

    I look to the pigeon and there's a shitload of feathers all around, it can't fly, or move. It's maimed. It's breathing heavily. Bald spots on it's wings, no visible blood though.

    I know it's nature and stuff, I mean I've seen this stuff in discovery channel, but not in real life. It was kinda shocking, and I couldn't help but feel responsible. I run a few laps and it's still there.

    I wonder if it is in pain. I think: "I'll kill it now with a quick death so it doesn't suffer anymore." But there are no heavy rocks anywhere in the park, and I tried getting Boris (my dog) to finish his ugly work, but NOW he backs off.

    So I just got home. I don't know if I should go back to the park and kill it. What would you guys do? Has this happened to you before? icon_neutral.gif

    oh and if I should kill it, how do I kill it? heavy rock right? or a machete to the head? I want it to feel as little pain as possible
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    Jul 13, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
    Call your local SPCA or wildlife protection office and report an injured pigeon anonymously. Please do it now.
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    Jul 13, 2010 5:59 PM GMT
    meninlove said Call your local SPCA or wildlife protection office and report an injured pigeon anonymously. Please do it now.
    that ^^^
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    Jul 13, 2010 6:06 PM GMT
    Yeah, call the SPCA. I'm from Texas, so we would have just pulled the head off. It's quick. Whatever you decide, do not walk down the street with a machete. That will get you in trouble fast.
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:31 PM GMT
    sbp9470 saidYeah, call the SPCA. I'm from Texas, so we would have just pulled the head off. It's quick. Whatever you decide, do not walk down the street with a machete. That will get you in trouble fast.


    lol
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
    birds go into shock relatively easily, if i understand it correctly. it may already be dead by the time you get back. but yes, call the spca or a bird rescue center. they may or may not bother, if you cannot bring the animal to them directly. but you should never let your dog off its leash - what if it had attacked another dog, or a person?
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
    Dude, you should have taken care of it right away. I've had to do that before. If it's alive it's suffering.
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    Jul 13, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    its natures/time course of action.. ..you were sent to that park so that the pigeon could die. Everything thing we do in life is preordained so why interfere? Let it succumb to its injuries as planned.
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    Jul 13, 2010 10:11 PM GMT
    tereseus1 saidits natures/time course of action.. ..you were sent to that park so that the pigeon could die. Everything thing we do in life is preordained so why interfere? Let it succumb to its injuries as planned.
    If he pulled its head off (which, depending on the situation, I would have done), that would have also been nature's course of action and preordained. Right?
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    Jul 13, 2010 10:23 PM GMT
    Didn't Ozzy Ozborne bite the head off a dove or pigeon once? Did you try that?
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    Jul 13, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    pigeons aren't an endangered species.

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    Jul 13, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    xassantex saidpigeons aren't an endangered species.




    and so the avoidable suffering of this individual specimen is reduced? humans aren't an endangered species either. if you were attacked by a dog, should we let tereseus's opinion hold sway?
  • GQjock

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    Jul 13, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    Yeah .... You ran head long into instincts you're dog carries around inside of him
    We all think our dogs are these little four legged people
    but we forget that they are carnivores that hunt down and eat small prey
    Jack Russells are esp bred for chasing down small animals and killing them
    My two little guys are Yorkies
    but under all that fur I know if they had the chance they'd do the exact same thing
    Once your dog attacked the bird you should have let him quickly finish the job
    and you should have called the ASPCA they would have killed it if it was too far gone
    I know it's upsetting and you have to feel bad for the bird but you have to realize there are no morals in nature


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    Jul 13, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
    GQjock saidYeah .... You ran head long into instincts you're dog carries around inside of him
    We all think our dogs are these little four legged people
    but we forget that they are carnivores that hunt down and eat small prey
    Jack Russells are esp bred for chasing down small animals and killing them
    My two little guys are Yorkies
    but under all that fur I know if they had the chance they'd do the exact same thing
    Once your dog attacked the bird you should have let him quickly finish the job
    and you should have called the ASPCA they would have killed it if it was too far gone
    I know it's upsetting and you have to feel bad for the bird but you have to realize there are no morals in nature





    this is true, and yet i personally find no fault with the dog. but what about the issue of avoiding this in the first place? and WHAT IF THE DOG HAD ATTACKED A PERSON?
  • Regbial

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    Jul 14, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
    dancerjack said
    GQjock saidYeah .... You ran head long into instincts you're dog carries around inside of him
    We all think our dogs are these little four legged people
    but we forget that they are carnivores that hunt down and eat small prey
    Jack Russells are esp bred for chasing down small animals and killing them
    My two little guys are Yorkies
    but under all that fur I know if they had the chance they'd do the exact same thing
    Once your dog attacked the bird you should have let him quickly finish the job
    and you should have called the ASPCA they would have killed it if it was too far gone
    I know it's upsetting and you have to feel bad for the bird but you have to realize there are no morals in nature





    this is true, and yet i personally find no fault with the dog. but what about the issue of avoiding this in the first place? and WHAT IF THE DOG HAD ATTACKED A PERSON?


    It's a tiny jack russel terrier, with dull teeth, who is never aggressive unless another dog is aggressive with him first.

    Next time I will just let him finish the job, although I hope that with my chastising, Boris will hold his instincts and won't attack another pidgeon again.

    And I don't think theres a SPCA here in mexico, and if there is, they are probably too lazy to take care of a pidgeon (that's the way it is here). Thanks for your responses. And how do you pull a pidgeon's head off?

    I didn't go back to the park.. The maimed pidgeon was stuck in an area with all the children's play gym or whatever (with the swings, etc...), the most populated area of the park. Hopefully someone found him and did something, or maybe the children ate it. : P I'll go to the park today, hopefully there will be nothing there.

    And yeah, no morals in nature, I guess that's what I found so shocking...
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    Jul 14, 2010 6:32 PM GMT
    You twist the neck.
    It's going to die of infection eventually.
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    Jul 14, 2010 7:23 PM GMT
    regbial, you have utterly missed the entire point. do whatever next time, and don't bother with starting a thread.