About DUBAI: A Thesis by Christopher DeNicola Williams College, Williamstown, MA (USA)

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    Feb 10, 2008 2:35 PM GMT
    This was a thesis done by an American Political Science major in 2005. All references are factual.

    The first 14 pages in the introduction pretty much sums up what Dubai is all about... but go straight to page 9 and see what I mean, from where I'm coming from at least.

    http://library.williams.edu/theses/pdf.php?id=48

    But then again if you're a Westerner, life will be good. I hope this enlightens anyone who plan to move here for work or thinking of putting up a business someday.

    Shukran,
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    Feb 10, 2008 6:50 PM GMT
    I think I saw a program on BBC news about this abuse of Asian workers and this problem is not only a difficult in Dubai, but in other Middle Eastern countries such as Saudi Arabia. What is a wonder is why people in India and elsewhere in the east have not heard about this from returning workers and stop going there. Is not there other places in the world in need of cheap labour that have better working conditions?
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    Feb 10, 2008 8:38 PM GMT
    I think the attraction of Dubai is that it is very easy for them to get into legally speaking.
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    Feb 10, 2008 11:50 PM GMT
    Basically Dubai is exploiting the desolate job markets of Pakistan and India to recruit convenient cheap labor that provides the bulk of its menial workforce. This practice sickens me because the workers are treated just well enough to maintain compliance yet in a broader sense have little substantial rights for themselves and are at the mercy of their gluttonous employers. The reason why this continues is, as stated in the paper, the workers are still paid and are given treatment that barely creaks past the threshold of human dignity. To these workers, they are still able to earn money to be sent back home where there are no jobs and a little money goes a long way.

    Reading this paper reminds me of how I felt after I saw the movie Syriana. I would recommend this movie if you are interested in political thrillers and from what I can remember of the movie it does a very accurate portrayal of such working conditions of non-nationals in these mid-east oil nations.
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    Feb 11, 2008 1:04 AM GMT
    i have had my share of the dubai experience but decided i had enough of it and headed back home. working there definitely was an eye opener since it was my first experience to be discriminated against. it didn't matter if you were better qualified or better skilled, your nationality dictates your fate, so to speak. i'm still rather thankful that despite all that, i was still able to live decently and make ends meet. however, the longer i stayed, the more i met people who were not as fortunate as me. i have heard of and seen actual accounts of deplorable living conditions, harassment, sexual abuse and exploitation. too many for a city that's presenting itself to be at the cusp of modernity in the gulf. dubai, the global city, what a sham! i tell you this, dubai has probably the most effective ad campaign i have ever seen. there was no way for me to know what i know now if it wasn't for me seeing it for myself. what money can buy...
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    Feb 11, 2008 4:00 AM GMT
    relokou saidBasically Dubai is exploiting the desolate job markets of Pakistan and India to recruit convenient cheap labor that provides the bulk of its menial workforce. This practice sickens me because the workers are treated just well enough to maintain compliance yet in a broader sense have little substantial rights for themselves and are at the mercy of their gluttonous employers. The reason why this continues is, as stated in the paper, the workers are still paid and are given treatment that barely creaks past the threshold of human dignity. To these workers, they are still able to earn money to be sent back home where there are no jobs and a little money goes a long way...


    Interesting responses...

    Now consider substituting the following... 'Basically the United States is exploiting the desolate job markets of Mexico and C America to recruit convenient cheap labor that provides the bulk of its menial workforce....'

    Especially in light of recent proposals for 'guest worker' programs.

    The paper has a very definite western - pro democracy - bias, and makes several unsupported cultural assumptions because of that. I think this is a fairly simplistic paper from a VERY LIBERAL source attempting to address very complex issues.

    I am in Dubai at least once a month on business, and am very aware of the problems facing this small country with regard to its large numbers of immigrant workers. However, the problems are no worse than in any other area where large numbers of immigrants have relocated in search of better economic conditions.

    The same problems are evident with Turks and other E Europeans in Germany and France; Mexicans and C Americans in the US; Asians in W Canada; Arabs and N Africans moving into Spain and France; or anywhere else where large numbers of relatively unskilled workers from less developed areas have moved into economies which need their labor.

    This is in fact how unbridled, laissez faire, capitalism works.

    (Please do not take any of the above comments as indicating approval of the conditions or systems involved, they are not. They are simply observations that the socio economic conditions are not unique.)

    Truthfully such labor migrations have occurred since the first primitive hominids left Olduvai Gorge.

    I don't think there is a way to prevent humans from seeking to better their economic conditions.

    I think any international agreement on the treatment and compensation of immigrant labor (recognizing labor as a commodity) is still some decades away if viable at all; and I would caution that the identification of labor as a commodity carries more than a few humanitarian risks in itself.






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    Feb 11, 2008 4:39 AM GMT
    Yeah, I know this sort of stuff happens all around the world and even here. Which is why it sickens me that much -- its everywhere and people would rather keep it that way rather than do something. But of course, once someone has a heart and decides to pay them more/give them better living standards, they will generate less of a profit and be overtaken by the rest of the pack. It would have to take every employer to simultaneously get rid of the practice to work -- something I do not have much hope in.
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    Feb 11, 2008 5:02 AM GMT
    I haven't lived anywhere else in the world, but Dubai just breeds greed and not apologizing for it. It's so unreal. Everyone's more into "everything-I-could-get-and-flaunt-in-your-face" mentality, regardless of whose foot they step on: from taxi drivers to top execs.

    No wonder this is mafia haven. Your source of riches is never questioned. Just Do-Buy, Do-Buy, Do-Buy!!!

    Nothing yet to do with my being gay here but it makes me a very angry person (very un-gay)icon_neutral.gif
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    Feb 11, 2008 5:44 AM GMT
    zimatar saidI haven't lived anywhere else in the world, but Dubai just breeds greed and not apologizing for it. It's so unreal. Everyone's more into "everything-I-could-get-and-flaunt-in-your-face" mentality, regardless of whose foot they step on: from taxi drivers to top execs.

    No wonder this is mafia haven. Your source of riches is never questioned. Just Do-Buy, Do-Buy, Do-Buy!!!...


    Chuckle - For unrestrained greed and conspicuous consumption icon_eek.gif you should check out Russia and the Republics (Uzbekistan!), or Brunei, Nigeria, or the 90035 or 10005 zip codes... icon_lol.gif Dubai at least pretends to be a benevolent oligarchy.

    Look - I am definitely not an advocate for the capitalist system (no matter how successful I am at it), [and please do not mistake an equation between the capitalist system and democracy; one is an economic system, the other a political system]; but it - in a variety of guises - seems to be the dominant economic system of our era.

    I think the best we can do is fight for significant Democratic checks and balances to the worst of its excesses. Unfortunately those democratic ideals have a long and painful birth, and some of the most vibrant and dynamic growth economies are very, very young.

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    Feb 11, 2008 5:55 AM GMT
    hahahahahah i was deliberately avoiding the "word" 'Russian' hahahahahahah...

    why don't you take ME out for a drink next time you're here... let's talk. hahahahahahah!!!

    which leads me to wonder if dubai market will "crash" soon, just like how it was in south korea a decade ago? i know that one bomb explosion here will scare the shit out of the western expat community, but then again UAE's got a very good media COVERage. lol
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    Feb 11, 2008 6:30 PM GMT
    zimatar saidhahahahahah i was deliberately avoiding the "word" 'Russian' hahahahahahah...

    why don't you take ME out for a drink next time you're here... let's talk. hahahahahahah!!!

    which leads me to wonder if dubai market will "crash" soon, just like how it was in south korea a decade ago? i know that one bomb explosion here will scare the shit out of the western expat community, but then again UAE's got a very good media COVERage. lol


    But would it> There have been expats there for nearly half a decade en masse, I think like most things some will panic the rest would just go about their daily lives.

    As was pointed out every country has their cheap source of labour and exploits it, you cant always blame the countries that allow it to go on though. Alot of the migrant workers actually travel their for economic prosperity as its still a million miles better than where they actually were before.
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    Feb 12, 2008 9:11 AM GMT
    4outof6I think the attraction of Dubai is that it is very easy for them to get into legally speaking.


    relokouTo these workers, they are still able to earn money to be sent back home where there are no jobs and a little money goes a long way.


    Yep. It's so easy to say, "Why not find work elsewhere?", the truth is, the work elsewhere is not as readily available as the ones in the Middle East.

    jdavinciit didn't matter if you were better qualified or better skilled, your nationality dictates your fate, so to speak.


    so true

    relokouBasically Dubai is exploiting the desolate job markets of Pakistan and India to recruit convenient cheap labor that provides the bulk of its menial workforce.


    And Filipinos.

    bfg1But would it> There have been expats there for nearly half a decade en masse, I think like most things some will panic the rest would just go about their daily lives.


    Agree. During the height of the US-Iraq war, majority of the Filipino workers in Iraq refused to leave. And get this, even with a government ban on Filipinos going to Iraq, there were literally lines of Filipino workers demanding to be sent to Iraq to fulfill their contracts. Need wins over safety.

    I had the experience in another forum of people shocked and angry over the rape of a 17(?) year old boy by arab men in the middle east (I think it's Dubai, I don't know, I'm too lazy to check). Anyway, what angered me is that they had absolutely no idea that this sort of thing has been going on to expat workers from 3rd world countries like the Philippines, Pakistan, and India. Pakistanis and Indians get better treatment because most are muslims too. There have been dozens of media reports here about workers (especially women) being maltreated in the middle east. That story about the women who jumped out of the second story of a building to escape their employers (they broke their legs but got away because of embassy intervention). Workers not paid for months, kept locked, fed scraps, raped, beaten, basically treated like slaves. I mean WTF?! Those that escaped were the lucky ones. Who knows how many are still suffering? Not to mention the women in jail accused with crimes ranging from murder to meeting men in private (doesn't matter if it was innocent, they're fucking WHIPPED for that!), and they're not even muslims. People who go home in caskets with some dubious story of suicide or accidents. etc. etc.

    This has been happening for decades, and the western media only takes notice when it's one of their own.

    EDIT: I forgot, I have a cousin (by law) who worked as a maid in Jordan. She wasn't allowed contact back here. Not even a phonecall using her own money. Her husband (my cousin) committed suicide, thinking she had already become one of those 'slave' women in there. Admittedly, he was already depressed, but that was the last straw.
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    Feb 12, 2008 10:22 AM GMT
    Sedative14 said[ Her husband (my cousin) committed suicide, thinking she had already become one of those 'slave' women in there. Admittedly, he was already depressed, but that was the last straw.


    Oh my Good Lord, I am so sorry to hear about your cousin. A lot of suicides happen here but they DO NOT get reported (MEDIA CONTROL AS UAE DEMENTEDLY PROJECTS ITSELF TO BE A UTOPIA) unless they jump out of the building and die on the ground in full public view.

    This subject is ironic, 'cos our countrymen are on the front page again re: the abuse they get working for the hospitality industry. Aptly entitled "Smiles That Veil Misery"

    http://www.xpress4me.com/news/uae/dubai/20005673.html

    This was in print last Thursday and I only got hold of the hardcopy today, thank goodness they have it online, otherwise I'll have to scan the whole thing!

    About the teenage French-Swiss boy who got raped, the assailants thought he was a 'helpless' Asian, actually! Serves them right!

    Anyway these are the links pertaining to that. I posted them before, I think? You see, there won't be any local coverage if NY Times didn't get a hold of it FIRST! They're in chronological order:

    NY TIMES
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/world/middleeast/01dubai.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    ABCNEWS
    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3932740&page=1

    YOU TUBE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJGh4LF5fE&feature=related

    THE VERDICT
    [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/world/middleeast/13dubai.html
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    THE VIGILANT ACTION
    http://boycottdubai.com/english/index_E.php


    That's Dubai for yah... "The City That Cares"


    My (_!_) LOL