Is Music better or worse these days?

  • Desmondlug

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    Jul 15, 2010 7:47 PM GMT
    I was curious I love all types of music old songs composed my Irving Berlin in the 20's, Belle Baker and new songs. But I wonder do you think is worse these days because it does not take much talent with all the technology we have these days to fix someones voice or is it better because we can create new sounds with these technologies? Think back then when people had no help with music and really had to rely on their own talents....
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    Jul 16, 2010 5:38 PM GMT
    Desmondlug saidI was curious I love all types of music old songs composed my Irving Berlin in the 20's, Belle Baker and new songs. But I wonder do you think is worse these days because it does not take much talent with all the technology we have these days to fix someones voice or is it better because we can create new sounds with these technologies? Think back then when people had no help with music and really had to rely on their own talents....


    It's a good thought.

    I think it's just progression. Although there are handful of not so talented "Artists" out there. I think most label groups are just about the money and image and making the songs TOP 40 without bothering the content, and going to any extremes for publicity. But there are lotsa Indie artists and musicians making good music.

    It's scary cause it's all like all songs and melodies have all been written, and one can only imagine what would happen next.

    To each his own but one can feel the authenticity of the talent during Live performances.

    But nothing like the classics!

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    Jul 16, 2010 5:43 PM GMT
    Way, way worse. My favorite genre (Florida breakbeats) hit its' peak in the 90's and now the new shit is almost unbearable to listen to. I feel like most types of music have hit its peak or are currently there (dubstep, indie rap, electro house, hipster alternative whatever), and after that there just isn't much left. Everything now in the mainstream seems to be just for the clubs, just autotune and dumb as shit lyrics.
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    Jul 16, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
    To just say " is MUSIC better these days?" is complete blasphemy. There's some many different kinds of music. All developing in completely different ways. I think pop music these days is fucking atrocious. Idk how people listen to that shit. I think our new technology can give rise to many new electronic sub-genres, which rather excites me. I love me some microkorg. Nevertheless, it provides more of an outlet for talentless people. And unfortunately, people seem to eat it right up.
    It's kinda sad to see the way pop music develops. Everyone just listens to and likes whatever a few record producers decide to make. I don't think they're even trying anymore.
    I like the way my style of music is shaping up these days. I'm constantly finding new bands that are just off in their own little niche of music. Where there's no other band really like them (yet). Technology really helps connect me to new music like this. And for that, technology is the greatest thing ever.
    I do agree, there are plenty of talent-less "artists" these days making it big just because of myspace and stuff while the real stars are cast in the shadows of these idiots.
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    Jul 16, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
    If you look hard enough, you'll find some awesome music out there, but they tend to be lesser known bands. Of course my inner punk detests most mainstream acts, but that's just me. I'm going to Lollapolooza in August, and can't wait to see some seriously great bands. It's all about your personal taste in music, so my god-son will be seeing Lady Gaga while I'm crowd surfing at The Strokes set.
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    Jul 16, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
    A lack of new discovery and innovation seems to be a big problem in music today. When I was young, my parents would almost everyday say, 'What is that crap? Turn that shit down!" Now I am older and find little out there that would make me say that. Youth is failing at their job to create and find the music that their parents are offended by and can not understand. Music over the last decade like Beyonce ,Rihanna, Coldplay, Maroon 5, James Blunt, etc. are just unimaginative, boring, not unique, and do not break any new ground. Young ones- Your parents have no problem listening to that tired old crap! Even the stuff I listen to from today (Royksopp, Goldfrapp, Antony & The Johnsons, Animal Collective, The Knife/Fever Ray, Florence + The Machine, Peter Bjorn and John, Bat For Lashes, School of Seven Bells), I like because my high school and college years were in the 80's and those bands could have all fit seamlessly into that decade. With all of the options today for the exchange of information and ideas, it seems like it should be so easy to discover and create new things.
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    Jul 16, 2010 6:25 PM GMT
    Music these days is one huge pile of shit, agreeing with breakers... yo when will you hit me up with a break tune man!

    Long live James Brown btw
  • ja89

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    Jul 16, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    1. how did you read my mind, i was thinking of starting a thread like this.

    2.SOO MUCH WORSE NOW. BUT I do have to say that there are great artists today that have given me faith in music today. People like Janelle Monae, Esperanza Spalding, Andrew Belle, Raheem DeVaughn, Maxwell, and many more in that genre have shown that music today isn't all about sex, parties, and money. To me they show that they can actually relate to their listeners with poetry and a use of words that not only make you fall deep in the songs but make you feel as if they were right there next to you when you turned down that path and made all of those mistakes. I can honestly say that Neo-Soul is my favorite genre today. It's the only thing keeping ties to the music we had before. Also the new age jazz, blues, and R&B has kept me from having to listen to all of the poppy songs on the radio. here are a few examples of what I am talking about. Just raw talent. though some would call it weird.

    Janelle Monae


    Esperanza Spalding
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    Jul 17, 2010 8:23 PM GMT
    Well, I love mainstream music so IMO now everything's better, you have many artists putting out music on a regular basis, so you never get tired of listening to the same songs, there's always something new so I love music these days, and I love Autotune, dunno y many people hate it. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 17, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
    Lol. Because autotune masks the real voice and changes it so that anyone can sound good. No talent. All technology.
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    Jul 17, 2010 10:01 PM GMT
    I'm not really a fan of today's contemporary music. Yep, it's all technology along with running bad vocals through various software filters in order to "perfect" it. I would much rather listen to an orchestra with a real talented voice.

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    Jul 17, 2010 10:11 PM GMT
    Ever since people stopped writing with a quill pen, literature has taken a nosedive. Come to think of it, the printing press made everything too easy -- anyone could publish, and then it all turned to shit.

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    And come to think of it, with the advent of microphones and recordings, nobody can sing anymore. Used to be you had to throw your voice to the upper rows of the theater. Now it's all shit.

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    Jul 17, 2010 10:21 PM GMT
    way worse with the all gay diva goddessGaGa and Beyoncé and all others who are quite at the pinnacle of their success, which is really only success if you look at sales. out there and let's not forget the holy gay goddess herself Britney....

    Their music too overproduced and just fluff mainly... I miss artist who could belt out a song and not worry about their dance routines or how their music video looked and is produced.

    I miss old 90's music like New jack swing and Latin Freestyle. Music you could dance too and not worry about some deeper/alternate meaning to a song.

    Let's not even get started on Autotune, in which another gay diva Cher started that trend.
  • rnch

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    Jul 17, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    the proliferation of "oldies" channels specializing in music form the 1930's thru the 1980's should answer your question. icon_exclaim.gif

  • Jul 17, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
    I am usually totalIy out of step with what is "popular music" in any given era. I was born in 1970 which makes me kinda old already, but it was tough even in the 80's when kids my age were listening to groups like Van Halen, Twisted Sister and Foreigner and there I was with my Beatles recods, the object of ridicule for liking such old music. But I still like them, and I still like other "old" musicians - Beach Boys / Springsteen / Prince / Stevie Wonder / Pink Floyd, etc. I'm a music snob and I do tend to gravitate towards people who play their own instruments + write their own songs. That's MUSIC to me. That's why the newer stuff I like falls into that category as well, starting with Nirvana, and working throught Pearl Jam / Smashing Pumpkins / Alice In Chains / Weezer / They Might Be Giants / Radiohead / Beck / The White Stripes, and so on. That said, I do enjoy some electronic music, including dance music from the 80s, but I need to be in a certain mood and it just doesn't take hold of my emotions the way, say "Superwoman" by Stevie Wonder or "Our Sweet Love" by The Beach Boys does. So I will definitely and emphatically say that music these days is much, MUCH worse!

    Of course, your mileage may vary...

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    Jul 17, 2010 11:11 PM GMT
    You're obviously only talking about highly processed "popular" music- there's a whole other world out there that does rely on producers and "hairography."

    The modern day artist I listen to are "badass," but I still listen to the occasional Ye-Ye artist.
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    Jul 17, 2010 11:22 PM GMT
    I grew up listening to all kinds of music. Everything from big band, swing, jazz, Nat "King" Cole, Barbara Streisand, Frank Sinatra, Elton John, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Kiss, Journey, Foreigner, Prince, Nirvana...

    I set the bar kinda high. Poptarts are a dime a dozen.

    I gave up noticing after Kurt Cobain died, and the market was force fed the boy bands and technotarts.

    I didn't notice again until Lady GaGa came on the scene. "Speechless" blew me away. Finally! Here is a lady that does it all. She resurrected my hope in the industry's taste level.
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    Jul 17, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
    i spend hours searching for new music on my computer. music on the radio is bad... it's like music for dummies. but if you dig deep, you can find quality stuff. there are a lot of blogs out there that post great music that is not played on the radio. just found this yesterday... love it!

    and this song is dark and hot. icon_smile.gif

    great to fall asleep to...

    soo much fun, i don't know what to do!!!...

  • rnch

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    Jul 17, 2010 11:25 PM GMT
    n8698u saidI grew up listening to all kinds of music. Everything from big band, swing, jazz, Nat "King" Cole, Barbara Streisand, Frank Sinatra, Elton John, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Kiss, Journey, Foreigner, Prince, Nirvana...

    I set the bar kinda high. Poptarts are a dime a dozen.

    I gave up noticing after Kurt Cobain died, and the market was force fed the boy bands and technotarts.

    I didn't notice again until Lady GaGa came on the scene. "Speechless" blew me away. Finally! Here is a lady that does it all. She resurrected my hope in the industry's taste level.


    you should "set you bar" just a lil' bit higher... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 17, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    so far no one has answered the op's question. You've only described what you like to listen to , discarding the rest as poo .

    Music caters to emotions. If it fulfills that goal to just one person, it's good.
    Music that would leave everyone on this planet completely indifferent could be cataloged as "bad" .

    Our preferences in music have nothing to do with whether music is better or worse.
    So far in History, music has just reflected how people feel in a given era.If you don't like what you hear now, just look at the world around you, that's what it talks about , without the composers even being aware of it. It just happens.
  • ja89

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    Jul 17, 2010 11:49 PM GMT
    Maxwell said it best in this video "music from the soul needs life lived first before it can be CREATED. It's not a conveyor belt and real living needs to go in that." sums it all up for me.