Meds for depression

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    Jul 18, 2010 7:59 AM GMT
    A psychologist I met today told me I should go on medication permanently for depression... needless to say, it made my depression worse.... but considering the fact that he knows what he;s talking about (Im a psychologist myself, I figure he should know) I should probably take his advice... has anybody here suffered depression and taken meds before? Ive taken other stuff, but Im thinking now I should probably consider it seriously.... any advice will be helpful and appreciated... thank you
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    Jul 18, 2010 9:50 AM GMT
    Last time I saw a shrink for depression, the quack told me it was just an extension of my ADHD, and put me on Adderol and some other drug that was supposed to make me fall asleep at night (didn't work). That lasted all of one week...can't stand meds. In fact, that's when I originally started exercising because I "heard" it helps with both ADHD and depression (before I had internet to research).

    I'm still off meds, but go through occasional down spells. This past winter was one of the worst down spells I've had since the mid 90's, but couldn't afford to see a shrink (called one on the phone but I have no insurance). That was pretty damn depressing in itself, so I went into work and told the boss I'm taking two weeks off to get my head straight again (advantage of being independently contracted).

    When I went back to work, I demanded a raise so I could afford a shrink next time that happens. Got my fingers crossed it won't happen for a long time, because that shit ain't fun at all!

    Ok this doesn't help with the med question, except that I simply have a personal preference to be drug free till I'm at the point where I can't take care of myself.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 18, 2010 10:24 AM GMT
    amar_m saidA psychologist I met today told me I should go on medication permanently for depression... needless to say, it made my depression worse.... but considering the fact that he knows what he;s talking about (Im a psychologist myself, I figure he should know) I should probably take his advice... has anybody here suffered depression and taken meds before? Ive taken other stuff, but Im thinking now I should probably consider it seriously.... any advice will be helpful and appreciated... thank you


    Do you need a license to be a Psychologist?

    If so, it should be taking off him.

    How much did the drugs companies give him to say that?

    He is wrong and very wrong. Talk to someone else about it.
  • mtneerman

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:02 AM GMT
    MikePhilPerez said
    amar_m saidA psychologist I met today told me I should go on medication permanently for depression... needless to say, it made my depression worse.... but considering the fact that he knows what he;s talking about (Im a psychologist myself, I figure he should know) I should probably take his advice... has anybody here suffered depression and taken meds before? Ive taken other stuff, but Im thinking now I should probably consider it seriously.... any advice will be helpful and appreciated... thank you


    Do you need a license to be a Psychologist?

    If so, it should be taking off him.

    How much did the drugs companies give him to say that?

    He is wrong and very wrong. Talk to someone else about it.


    and you made this diagnosis after one paragraph?

    only you can decide if it's something you want to do, and it only has to be as permanent as you want it to be. i'm taking one and it has worked for me. i recently decreased mine with no negative results. there is no point going thru life depressed, if you feel you need it, try it for a couple months and see how it goes.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:06 AM GMT
    mtneerman said
    MikePhilPerez said
    amar_m saidA psychologist I met today told me I should go on medication permanently for depression... needless to say, it made my depression worse.... but considering the fact that he knows what he;s talking about (Im a psychologist myself, I figure he should know) I should probably take his advice... has anybody here suffered depression and taken meds before? Ive taken other stuff, but Im thinking now I should probably consider it seriously.... any advice will be helpful and appreciated... thank you


    Do you need a license to be a Psychologist?

    If so, it should be taking off him.

    How much did the drugs companies give him to say that?

    He is wrong and very wrong. Talk to someone else about it.


    and you made this diagnosis after one paragraph?

    only you can decide if it's something you want to do, and it only has to be as permanent as you want it to be. i'm taking one and it has worked for me. i recently decreased mine with no negative results. there is no point going thru life depressed, if you feel you need it, try it for a couple months and see how it goes.



    But that is not what the Psychologist told him icon_rolleyes.gif
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:08 AM GMT
    There is a reason for depression. Drugs will not address the reason. Think about it.
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:17 AM GMT
    amar_m saidA psychologist I met today told me I should go on medication permanently for depression... needless to say, it made my depression worse.... but considering the fact that he knows what he;s talking about (Im a psychologist myself, I figure he should know) I should probably take his advice... has anybody here suffered depression and taken meds before? Ive taken other stuff, but Im thinking now I should probably consider it seriously.... any advice will be helpful and appreciated... thank you



    Psychologists aren't qualified to prescribe drugs, you should ask for a referral to a psychiatrist. Your probably on an SSRI, Most of the drugs have a tendency to increase the symptoms of depression for the first week or ten days your taking them.

    Your Dr should have explained this and usually carefully monitors your progress for that initial period.

    Every one responds to them different, I take one for anxiety attacks

    Don't listen to Mikephilretard, he's all about passing out stupid and frankly dangerous medical advice
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:20 AM GMT
    Hmmm, thanks for the advice.. I myself didnt want to go on meds, I took pharmacology in psychology in med school and what they told me about the process of how they are produced (in labrats, studies with a lot of side effects, unknown chemicals in the brain they may affect, etc etc etc)... but seeing as alot of other stuff isnt helping right now Im considering it seriously now for once
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:22 AM GMT
    If you are considering to take medication for your depression, be aware of a few things. It's common for people who take antidepression meds to feel even more down for the first period. I myself had Paroxetine, and did experience this.
    Also, watch out with alcohol.

    When you're depressed, it's you who got into this and it's you who can get out. Nobody but yourself can get up, and take action. That's one of the most valuable things in life to me, taking charge of your own life. Start easy, be satisfied with the smaller things you do in order to feel better again. Keep moving, maintain or rebuild social contacts. Exercise, run, paint, or do something that brings satisfaction.

    During the time i was depressed, i thought i couldn't sink further. And yet i slipped a little more each day. Until i realised that enough is enough.
    It's been a year since then, i still need to stay focused to keep up the good work. But i tell you, the time i thought i'd hit rock bottom, is a time that i never want to forget. It's valuable, adds something to yourself. How else could you define the good from the bad in your life?

    Good luck, be well. You'll get there.
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:24 AM GMT
    iBryan saidIf you are considering to take medication for your depression, be aware of a few things. It's common for people who take antidepression meds to feel even more down for the first period. I myself had Paroxetine, and did experience this.
    Also, watch out with alcohol.

    When you're depressed, it's you who got into this and it's you who can get out. Nobody but yourself can get up, and take action. That's one of the most valuable things in life to me, taking charge of your own life. Start easy, be satisfied with the smaller things you do in order to feel better again. Keep moving, maintain or rebuild social contacts. Exercise, run, paint, or do something that brings satisfaction.

    During the time i was depressed, i thought i couldn't sink further. And yet i slipped a little more each day. Until i realised that enough is enough.
    It's been a year since then, i still need to stay focused to keep up the good work. But i tell you, the time i thought i'd hit rock bottom, is a time that i never want to forget. It's valuable, adds something to yourself. How else could you define the good from the bad in your life?

    Good luck, be well. You'll get there.


    For gods sake stop telling me my depression is my fault.. its fucking depressing... and angering as shit
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:24 AM GMT
    iBryan saidIf you are considering to take medication for your depression, be aware of a few things. It's common for people who take antidepression meds to feel even more down for the first period. I myself had Paroxetine, and did experience this.
    Also, watch out with alcohol.

    When you're depressed, it's you who got into this and it's you who can get out. Nobody but yourself can get up, and take action. That's one of the most valuable things in life to me, taking charge of your own life. Start easy, be satisfied with the smaller things you do in order to feel better again. Keep moving, maintain or rebuild social contacts. Exercise, run, paint, or do something that brings satisfaction.

    During the time i was depressed, i thought i couldn't sink further. And yet i slipped a little more each day. Until i realised that enough is enough.
    It's been a year since then, i still need to stay focused to keep up the good work. But i tell you, the time i thought i'd hit rock bottom, is a time that i never want to forget. It's valuable, adds something to yourself. How else could you define the good from the bad in your life?

    Good luck, be well. You'll get there.


    For gods sake stop telling me my depression is my fault.. its fucking depressing... and angering as shit
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:24 AM GMT
    iBryan saidIf you are considering to take medication for your depression, be aware of a few things. It's common for people who take antidepression meds to feel even more down for the first period. I myself had Paroxetine, and did experience this.
    Also, watch out with alcohol.

    When you're depressed, it's you who got into this and it's you who can get out. Nobody but yourself can get up, and take action. That's one of the most valuable things in life to me, taking charge of your own life. Start easy, be satisfied with the smaller things you do in order to feel better again. Keep moving, maintain or rebuild social contacts. Exercise, run, paint, or do something that brings satisfaction.

    During the time i was depressed, i thought i couldn't sink further. And yet i slipped a little more each day. Until i realised that enough is enough.
    It's been a year since then, i still need to stay focused to keep up the good work. But i tell you, the time i thought i'd hit rock bottom, is a time that i never want to forget. It's valuable, adds something to yourself. How else could you define the good from the bad in your life?

    Good luck, be well. You'll get there.


    For gods sake stop telling me my depression is my fault.. its fucking depressing... and angering as shit
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:25 AM GMT
    amar_m saidHmmm, thanks for the advice.. I myself didnt want to go on meds, I took pharmacology in psychology in med school and what they told me about the process of how they are produced (in labrats, studies with a lot of side effects, unknown chemicals in the brain they may affect, etc etc etc)... but seeing as alot of other stuff isnt helping right now Im considering it seriously now for once


    They taught you that no one really knows how they work right, that they take hours to increase your serrotinergic system but months for the anti-depressant effect to fully kick in...

    No one really understands the pharmacology yet
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:29 AM GMT
    MsclDrew said
    amar_m saidHmmm, thanks for the advice.. I myself didnt want to go on meds, I took pharmacology in psychology in med school and what they told me about the process of how they are produced (in labrats, studies with a lot of side effects, unknown chemicals in the brain they may affect, etc etc etc)... but seeing as alot of other stuff isnt helping right now Im considering it seriously now for once


    They taught you that no one really knows how they work right, that they take hours to increase your serrotinergic system but months for the anti-depressant effect to fully kick in...

    No one really understands the pharmacology yet


    Well there was more, but Im not in the mood to go through two weeks of lectures.. what you say is correct in all senses though, Ive heard all of this said to me in class
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:30 AM GMT
    "Psychologists aren't qualified to prescribe drugs, you should ask for a referral to a psychiatrist"

    THIS.

    Also him saying "permanently" is a bit worrying. How can he know that you will need them in 10 let alone 50 years time? By all means use meds to break negative cycles etc etc, but the west over medicates (if you only have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail)
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:33 AM GMT
    http://or.americanmentalhealth.com/index.tpl?page=12013858151685145

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-518669/Anti-depressants-taken-thousands-Brits-NOT-work-major-new-study-reveals.html

    http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/mindandbody/a/exercisedep.htm
  • mtneerman

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:36 AM GMT
    MikePhilPerez saidThere is a reason for depression. Drugs will not address the reason. Think about it.


    this shows your ignorance. there are countless reasons for depression, it is not fully understood by the experts. maybe you should enlighten them. no one would ever choose to be depressed, it very likely can be caused by surrounding circumstances, but certainly not by anything the person has done. whether it is a lifelong treatment or a temporary one, is for you to decide. i understand not wanting to take meds, but in my case the results are well worth it. whichever you decide...good luck.
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:37 AM GMT
    I want to kick that psychologist in the nuts.

    Keep away from psychologists. I've known few psychologists who know what they're talking about. Go see a psychiatrist.
  • tinman511

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:37 AM GMT
    simply think of it this way; If you had a sinus infection you would take medications to rid yourself of the infection. People with epilepsy take medications to control the convulsions. Sometimes depression is a symptom of chemical imbalances in the brain and the right medication will improve your daily emotional well-being.
    after years of being antidrug, i broke down and talked to my family doctor. we tried a few different medications. Now I wonder why was I so anti-help....
    The medication makes a big difference in the way I view the world. Mainly I am able to go outside without the gloom and doom feelings that I carried around for so long. Also I am able to control the panic attacks that used to overwhelm me.
    my advice- see a doctor. talk things over with him/her. always remember if your thoughts or feelings get worst call the doctor right away. make sure the people closest to you are aware of whats going on so they can support you.
    best wishes for a better tomorrow icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:42 AM GMT
    reppaT saidI want to kick that psychologist in the nuts.

    Keep away from psychologists. I've known few psychologists who know what they're talking about. Go see a psychiatrist.


    Well Im a psychologist and I went to med school to be a psychiatrist...

    only difference is perscribing medicine, if a psychologist thinks you need it, he will refer you to the psychiatrist anyways

    so no, I dont think seeing a psychiatrist would change it.. in fact, they are usually the first in line to give you the meds
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:49 AM GMT
    mtneerman said
    MikePhilPerez saidThere is a reason for depression. Drugs will not address the reason. Think about it.


    this shows your ignorance. there are countless reasons for depression, it is not fully understood by the experts. maybe you should enlighten them. no one would ever choose to be depressed, it very likely can be caused by surrounding circumstances, but certainly not by anything the person has done. whether it is a lifelong treatment or a temporary one, is for you to decide. i understand not wanting to take meds, but in my case the results are well worth it. whichever you decide...good luck.


    It is amazing how you read things into what I say. Anyway, no point in replying to you as you will read into it what you want.

  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:50 AM GMT
    amar_m said
    reppaT saidI want to kick that psychologist in the nuts.

    Keep away from psychologists. I've known few psychologists who know what they're talking about. Go see a psychiatrist.


    Well Im a psychologist and I went to med school to be a psychiatrist...

    only difference is perscribing medicine, if a psychologist thinks you need it, he will refer you to the psychiatrist anyways

    so no, I dont think seeing a psychiatrist would change it.. in fact, they are usually the first in line to give you the meds


    I totaly agree with you there.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 18, 2010 11:51 AM GMT
    Hands up, who is on medication for depression?
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    Jul 18, 2010 11:55 AM GMT
    BTW did I mention the psychologist was also a Reiki master, gay, muscular and hot LOL

    Im not kidding here, its true,.. it made the verdict worse ARGH!!
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    Jul 18, 2010 12:00 PM GMT
    amar_m saidBTW did I mention the psychologist was also a Reiki master, gay, muscular and hot LOL

    Im not kidding here, its true,.. it made the verdict worse ARGH!!


    I just drooled a little.