KissingPro saidImagine how laughable it would sound if straight guys said they weren't into the straight scene (meaning they don't go to bars or other places to drink with their buddies).
Put a bunch of gay guys together........call it a bar......and many of you classify it as an evil activity simply because it's gay. And then the constant need to proclaim that you aren't part of it.
Someone should look into that. Sounds like some issues are going on.
You are rigth about unsecurity pushing some to avoid the 'gay scene', but you completly miss something very important.
Why should you have more gay buddies than straight buddies ? Statistically, you should meet, and befriend, a lot of straight people.
Separation (segregation) of gay life from mainstream life is not something I like.
Of course, for anything sex or dating related, you don't expect to mix with straight, but for anything else, there is no need to be isolated.
I do enjoy, big time, gay social life, particulary as I have very little access to it where I live.
I do dislike, big time, the cultural values of the gay scene I know, I Paris. I see it as the scories and traumatic result of social pressure and gay bashing, find it unhealthy and rescipe for unhappiness when you fall in it young and are mentored by bitter passive agressive community (globally of course, individually, lot of great guys).
My wish and hope is that someday, it will be no big deal to live a guy life in a straight world, kiss you date in bar, and never wonder if a place or activity is gay, straight or gay friendly, but just if the music is good.
Last, unfair remark, because you last line upset me a bit :
Who really has self confidence issues, guys living a gay life in a gay subset of the world, or guys living a gay life in the world as is it ?
Like for top/bottom, buch/fem, monogamous/ho etc..., we should welcome, accept, embrasse the diversity and the infinite number of way to find happiness