Fuck Obama!

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    Jul 23, 2010 3:33 PM GMT

    'Don't ask' critic Dan Choi honorably discharged

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/07/dont_ask_critic_dan_choi_honor.html?hpid=moreheadlines
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    The New York Times today published an op-ed severely critical of Obama for the disappearing act he has pulled with respect to climate change legislation.

    On this and other issues, Obama has committed severe dereliction of duty.

    The people who voted for him to effect change on these areas, especially all the young voters, are unlikely to vote for him again.

    There needs to be a palace revolution in the Democratic party, to install Hillary as candidate for the next election, because sure as hell Obama won't be reelected.
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:06 PM GMT
    For Obama, I think there is much disappointment because he has not been the activist that Ralph Nader is and would be.
  • solak

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    Jul 23, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    when will gays learn to love their 2nd class status? he's lucky this Administration didn't bill him for his education, geez.
  • shoelessj

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    Jul 23, 2010 5:13 PM GMT
    solak saidwhen will gays learn to love their 2nd class status? he's lucky this Administration didn't bill him for his education, geez.


    give them time...
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
    solak saidwhen will gays learn to love their 2nd class status? he's lucky this Administration didn't bill him for his education, geez.


    Yes because Obama is clearly the most homohating president ever...
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    solak saidwhen will gays learn to love their 2nd class status? he's lucky this Administration didn't bill him for his education, geez.


    Yes because Obama is clearly the most homohating president ever...


    hmm would I rather have..

    A) An idiot monkey tell me to my face how he feels about my orientation, but still allows me to make enough on my own to move out to my preferred tolerant gayborhood where we have brunch and jovially poke fun at him.

    or

    B) A stud who whispers sweet nothings into my ears about our proposed honeymoon based on my orientation for years, but during the interim continues to nickle and dime me to support his "hard-working" staff (like this guy
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1048968 at $26 Million)
    while I slowly realize I can't afford to personally move anymore as I have to support the supposed "greater good" of which I've apparently never been a part since the beginning.

    oh string my gullible gay hearticon_cool.gif
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:36 PM GMT
    solak said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    solak saidwhen will gays learn to love their 2nd class status? he's lucky this Administration didn't bill him for his education, geez.


    Yes because Obama is clearly the most homohating president ever...


    hmm would I rather have..

    A) An idiot monkey tell me to my face how he feels about my orientation, but still allows me to make enough on my own to move out to my preferred tolerant gayborhood where we have brunch and jovially poke fun at him.

    or

    B) A stud who whispers sweet nothings into my ears about our proposed honeymoon based on my orientation for years, but during the interim continues to nickle and dime me to support his "hard-working" staff (like this guy
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1048968
    while I slowly realize I can't afford to move anymore to support the supposed "greater good" of which I'm apparently not a part since the beginning.


    Yes...and the idiot monkey spews hate which puts you and those like you in danger, gives tax breaks to the wealthiest in the country (who are not creating American jobs, instead take that money and send American jobs over seas so they make even MORE money) starts 2 wars (while keeping his tax breaks) deregulates environmental standards right before he leaves office, and leads with the bible.

    Because that sounds awful.
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:52 PM GMT
    Blair (as much as we hate him and we do) at least did a great deal for gay rights and kept the UK out of the Euro, as well as his war mongering and general crap. Did Bush actually do ANYTHING right? I just wonder.
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    Jul 23, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidBlair (as much as we hate him and we do) at least did a great deal for gay rights and kept the UK out of the Euro, as well as his war mongering and general crap. Did Bush actually do ANYTHING right? I just wonder.


    As much as I hate Bush and Cheney, at least I am not aware of either making openly homophobic comments.

    At least no more than Obama, who declared himself against gay marriage because of his religion (never mind that Obama at the time belonged to a church that supports gay marriage). In my opinion, this is almost worse.
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    Jul 23, 2010 6:02 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Lostboy saidBlair (as much as we hate him and we do) at least did a great deal for gay rights and kept the UK out of the Euro, as well as his war mongering and general crap. Did Bush actually do ANYTHING right? I just wonder.


    As much as I hate Bush and Cheney, at least I am not aware of either making openly homophobic comments.

    At least no more than Obama, who declared himself against gay marriage because of his religion (never mind that Obama at the time belonged to a church that supports gay marriage). In my opinion, this is almost worse.



    http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/George_W__Bush_Civil_Rights.htm#Gay_Rights

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/dick-cheney-does-not-supp_b_210721.html This is an opinion piece.
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    Jul 23, 2010 6:04 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidBlair (as much as we hate him and we do) at least did a great deal for gay rights and kept the UK out of the Euro, as well as his war mongering and general crap. Did Bush actually do ANYTHING right? I just wonder.



    "Right" and "Wrong" in this instance are subjective and depend heavily on a combination of your sexual orientation, political leaning, accumulated wealth, and religion.
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    Jul 23, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    "Right" and "Wrong" in this instance are subjective and depend heavily on a combination of your sexual orientation, political leaning, accumulated wealth, and religion.


    expected response.. still the Dem's Black Doormats after all this time.. (now the Gay doormats)

    http://article.nationalreview.com/267022/the-dems-black-doormats/deroy-murdock

    funny how you're so easily swayed by any slight patronization toward orientation, or skin toneicon_cool.gif..

    give up the real opportunity of a great livelihood for the definite chance at a much smaller handout in the form of "assistance," that does more harm in the long-term.

    must be hard-wired after all these years, huh?
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    Jul 23, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
    viveutvivas saidThe New York Times today published an op-ed severely critical of Obama for the disappearing act he has pulled with respect to climate change legislation.

    On this and other issues, Obama has committed severe dereliction of duty.

    The people who voted for him to effect change on these areas, especially all the young voters, are unlikely to vote for him again.

    There needs to be a palace revolution in the Democratic party, to install Hillary as candidate for the next election, because sure as hell Obama won't be reelected.


    early on in the last Presidential election campaign, President Obama impressed me as an excellent public speaker, an inspiring speech maker, but a man of no firm, deep seated convictions, a man who would go whichever way the political poll winds blew.

    so far, he had done nothing to change my opinion of him.

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    Jul 23, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
    rnch said
    early on in the last Presidential election campaign, President Obama impressed me as an excellent public speaker, an inspiring speech maker, but a man of no firm, deep seated convictions, a man who would go whichever way the political poll winds blew.


    Very good summary, unfortunately. icon_sad.gif
  • solak

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    Jul 23, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
    rnch said

    early on in the last Presidential election campaign, President Obama impressed me as an excellent public speaker, an inspiring speech maker, but a man of no firm, deep seated convictions, a man who would go whichever way the political poll winds blew.

    so far, he had done nothing to change my opinion of him.

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    well said.
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    Jul 23, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Lostboy saidBlair (as much as we hate him and we do) at least did a great deal for gay rights and kept the UK out of the Euro, as well as his war mongering and general crap. Did Bush actually do ANYTHING right? I just wonder.



    "Right" and "Wrong" in this instance are subjective and depend heavily on a combination of your sexual orientation, political leaning, accumulated wealth, and religion.


    Not so much: things that in 50 or 100 years people will look back to and say that it was a real step forward for the country. No-one, regardless of their political etc leaning thinks that Neville Chamberlin was right about peace in his time.
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    Jul 23, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Lostboy saidBlair (as much as we hate him and we do) at least did a great deal for gay rights and kept the UK out of the Euro, as well as his war mongering and general crap. Did Bush actually do ANYTHING right? I just wonder.



    "Right" and "Wrong" in this instance are subjective and depend heavily on a combination of your sexual orientation, political leaning, accumulated wealth, and religion.


    Not so much: things that in 50 or 100 years people will look back to and say that it was a real step forward for the country. No-one, regardless of their political etc leaning thinks that Neville Chamberlin was right about peace in his time.


    Eh, in 50 or 100 years the rich will still be rich and thanking the republicans for keeping the poor, poor.
  • solak

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    Jul 23, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
    expected response.. still the Dem's Black Doormats after all this time.. (now the Gay doormats)

    http://article.nationalreview.com/267022/the-dems-black-doormats/deroy-murdock

    funny how you're so easily swayed by any slight patronization toward orientation, or skin toneicon_lol.gif..

    give up the real opportunity of a great livelihood for the definite chance at a much smaller handout in the form of "assistance," that does more harm in the long-term.

    must be hard-wired after all these years, huh?

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    wipe, wipe, wipe.icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 23, 2010 7:23 PM GMT
    This is what I think will happen: DADT will be overturned in December, and Choi will be allowed to serve again. Win.
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    Nov 16, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
    I didn't know he was gay. That's sad
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    Nov 16, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
    How many times is this topic going to be dug up? no1curr (What's up Cas!) icon_lol.gif
  • Suetonius

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    Nov 17, 2012 9:27 AM GMT
    Turin saidI didn't know he was gay. That's sad
    I didn't know (though I suspected) that Obama (our Commander in Chief) was such a f*cking hypocrite and a wimp.
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    Nov 17, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
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    Nov 17, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
    Heh.

    I really do not get the vitriol here:

    Obama *MADE* it possible for Lt. Choi to be honorably discharged.

    Obama (helped) *MADE* it possible for LGBT servicemembers to open serve in the armed forces.

    Bear in mind that he is not a dictator who can magically shit executive orders just to keep us (2%) of the population appeased ...

    ... and bear further in mind that nearly any of the GOP candidates, had they won the election, would have worked toward rolling back those hard won gains.