What have you or would you sacrifice?

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    Jul 25, 2010 6:33 AM GMT
    In posting to another Forum Thread about Celeb Encounters, I wrote:

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREI know alot of pro sports and Olympics celebs (Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Derek Jeter, Michael Phelps and so on). Most are great guys. Only met one who was a jerk, a former Dallas man. (Sorry Cowboy fans!) Through involvement in charities, I have met many a movie and TV stars (Jude Law, Annette Bening, Matthew Morrison, Cory Monteith, Rob Lowe, Tom Cruise, etc.). Most of all these celebs are gracious, but I can't help feeling sorry that while they evidently like people, they are always on show, little or no privacy. Celeb status comes at a heavy price! I wonder who hasn't come "out" or been with their true love or other sacrifices because of celeb status!


    This made me think of the sacrifices people make, voluntarily or due to strong circumstances. I just watched Martin Scorsese' "The Age of Innocence," with Daniel Day-Lewis, Michelle Pfeiffer and Winona Ryder, from the Edith Wharton novel, about two people passionately longing for each other, but who sacrifice acting on their love because of circumstances and how it would hurt others.

    So, I ask: What have you or would you sacrifice?
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    Jul 25, 2010 8:45 AM GMT
    Well it depends for what motive. It could be for love, for studies, career, financial success, etc.

    When I was back in high school, I was part of an improv team. I totally loved it, it became a passion. I did improv in teams until I was 19 years old, and then I became coach of the high school team I originally was took in. I've been doing that for 3 years. Now I would get to actually teach passionate and marvelous teenagers one of my biggest passion.

    But now that I'm starting my master's degree, I moved in Montreal (a bit far from where I was a coach), I've been forced to give the team away, and stop coaching them.

    Our last tournament together was hard, I delivered them the "bad" news at this point, but we took it all together and had a lot of fun overall. It kinda brought something special to the team, the fact it was our last moment together. After the tournament, when I just dropped the last teammate at his place, I just started crying and I had difficulty catching my breath. I was feeling so empty, I had the feeling I just got rid of the one last thing that would passionate me.

    So that's what my sacrifice. For my studies, I just couldn't do it anymore. Now I'm moving on, and I will always think that no matter what it is, I have to live through and live for these passions. And never forget them.
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    Jul 25, 2010 9:00 AM GMT
    I was touched by your openness, sensitivity and sharing. Thank you, man! I agree life is meant to be a passionate adventure! Best wishes for your grad work...What you studying?
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    Jul 25, 2010 9:15 AM GMT
    fitnready3 saidI was touched by your openness, sensitivity and sharing. Thank you, man! I agree life is meant to be a passionate adventure! Best wishes for your grad work...What you studying?


    Thanks to you, it actually felt great speaking about it. It happened 2 months ago, it's still fresh ;)

    I study history, I'd like to be a prof in college or university.
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    Jul 25, 2010 9:15 AM GMT
    Well, first of all, I am from Southern Mississippi (less than an hour drive from the coast) and, thankfully, I was at my university when Hurricane Katrina came through the area.

    After Katrina happened, I was one of the first college student responders to the coast (I volunteer a lot with the Red Cross and am Bio-hazard certified)... and it was just devastating... I can't even begin to describe what is was like down there... I mean, remembering what used to be there...how entire towns were gone, interstates, everything just gone. ...and that was before I was assigned to house-duty. (checking for bodies, basically, house by house)...and I won't go into that, it still gives me nightmares to this day.

    Honestly, the worst part of all of it was the people there...they'd lost everything, they had no shelter, no food, water, medicine, etc... and the fact of the matter is that these were the lucky ones.

    There was no way that I could leave people like that to go back to a cushy apartment and books, knowing that they were still like that down there. ...so, since I was from the area, I was able to take the rest of the semester off without it counting against me. ...and more than that, I stayed down there helping for over a year. ...just..whatever they needed, coordinating food efforts, making sure people had shelter, helping to identify the people that needed homes back the fastest, whatever.

    ...so, I sacrificed over a year of my life/education to help these people, none of which I had ever met before... and I would do the same thing again in a second.

    (damn, sorry, didn't mean to go all depressing on y'all, just wanted to get that out there...so, in turn, here's a sorry kat.)
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:01 PM GMT
    Thanks for for the Sorry Kitty. It was kind but totally unnecessary. Yes, you brought the harsh reality of Katrina's effects on people more in focus than any news report I had read but you offered life as it is, not a fairytale version. And gave the noble sacrifice of someone (you) responding with care and concern for "strangers." This made me feel the interconnectedness of us all. Thank you for what you did! I sent money, but you were present, sacrificing your study and time in your life! I have much respect for your doing this! It also goes in the face of those who would typify RJers and members of our community as solely vain, into our bods and others' looks, with little concern for people and reality.
    Thank you for sharing.

    And to our future college/university history prof, I respect the commit to studies, the sacrifice it entailed for you and the caring to teach others. What specific area of history?
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    Jul 25, 2010 7:54 PM GMT
    To ChangedReality => Wow, that's actually a perfect definition for the word devotion. I really have respect for what you did. As I'm not an American, I don't fell the "scars" of Katrina, but I was really touched by this tragedy, I saw it on TV, on the news, followed it for weeks and months, and all the aftermaths. And as fitnready3 said, there's no way you have to feel sorry about anything you just wrote there ! icon_smile.gif

    To fitnready3 => As I'm doing a masters with internship, I don't get to specialize myself in any domain, which is pretty cool because I wouldn't know which one to pick. I'm really into Late Antiquity/Beginning of Middle Age (fall of the Roman Empire and Germanic Invasion), also United States' history, and Contemporary occidental history (20th century mainly). Oh, I have something with Precolombian history (Aztek, Mayas, Incas, etc.) and Egypt.... Haha, yeah, I would definitely not be able to chose icon_razz.gif
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    Jul 26, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    I don't know history that much but like art from a number of the periods you mentioned and art in general. BTW, why "disasterpiece"? As you seem anything but! You seem to be a really nice guy n solid too.
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    Jul 26, 2010 3:59 AM GMT
    fitnready3 saidSo, I ask: What have you or would you sacrifice?
    Nothing.
    All the public wants to know is who the celebs are fucking. They don't give a fuck if it's a gay or straight relationship as long as the people they're fucking are hot.
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    Jul 26, 2010 4:12 AM GMT
    Doug is my moonshadow and moonlight.

    -Bill


    So...if doesn't matter if I have nothing, because I have him. Like this:







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    Jul 26, 2010 5:00 AM GMT
    fitnready3 saidI don't know history that much but like art from a number of the periods you mentioned and art in general. BTW, why "disasterpiece"? As you seem anything but! You seem to be a really nice guy n solid too.


    Haha "disasterpiece" is not really meant to represent me. It's just a pretty brutal song from a pretty brutal band I like. And I like the concept of contrast with masterpiece. I think destruction can be as beautiful as construction, it's all part of evolution. So a disasterpiece can be as enjoyable as a masterpiece, I guess !
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    Jul 26, 2010 5:22 AM GMT
    Picasso said that every act of creation is an act of destruction.

    Read British rave reviews of "Jerry Springer The Opera," which is coming to the USA, combining, so I'm told, "high" and "low" art, creation and destruction.

    Relating this back to the WHAT WOULD YOU SACRIFICE theme...All art involves sacrifice. And so does the art of life.

    Thanks for explaining the name thing, dp. Hehehe...And thanks to all you guys who are posting here and adding your thoughts to this thread.
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    Jul 26, 2010 5:45 AM GMT
    Hahaha, it's always a pleasure,but tell us more about you, fitnready8. You seem quite incognito here, there's not a lot on information on your profile.

    Would you SACRIFICE a bit of your private life for us ? ;)
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    Jul 26, 2010 6:00 AM GMT
    You touch a sensitive point here.
    I lost evrything I did work hard for in my life, but to read it as sacrifice or choice or fate would just be rewriting history, imagining noble motives in order to handle the loss better.

    I lost my chance to have college education to familly issues.
    I sacrificed my promising international sport carrer to fix kids of relative nightmare situation.
    I lost my dad life to divorce.
    I sacrificed a wealthy IT career to stay close to my kids.
    I sacrificed the closeness with my kids to keep my sanity.
    I lost my career to a sleep desease.

    Not sure if I should be so open here, it's just the collusion of the tread topic and recent events in my life ;)

    I think you do sacrifices because you choose to do so. It has nothing admirable in itself.
    A celibrity who can't have private life, for me, it's not sacrifice, it's consequence of the desire to be a celebrity.

    What changed reallity did was a altruist gift.
    Disasterpiece had to face heart breaking choice.

    Do what you want with your life, but pay the price for it.

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    Jul 26, 2010 6:06 AM GMT
    Id sacrifice my life for the happiness of others..
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    Jul 26, 2010 6:37 AM GMT
    M, I'm sorry for your lost. I for one am touched by your openness and respect your sharing. I will hold it as such. I believe other guys here will too.

    On the other note...Sometimes...often...one makes choices n sacrifices come along with it, Some choose a line of work n celeb staus simply comes with it n obligations n restrictions with that, especially gays in pro sports.
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    Jul 27, 2010 4:00 AM GMT
    fitnready3 said...
    This made me think of the sacrifices people make, voluntarily or due to strong circumstances. ...
    So, I ask: What have you or would you sacrifice?


    "My life is not about me."

    Is that sacrifice enough?
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    Jul 27, 2010 5:31 AM GMT

    YES!