There is Life After Death. I recently passed over to the other side...

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    Jul 25, 2010 9:08 AM GMT
    Recently I was rushed to hospital in a bad way and I left my body and went to another place. There really is a reality beyond this planet and it is very nice. It is nothing like the bible, it is almost like going to a school where through visual and symbolic images you are educated about the nature of life and the universe. The tunnel and all that malarkey does happen. It is very enjoyable.

    There is no Jesus or anything like that in the next world. You are given choices there. Doors to new levels of understanding keep opening in front of you and you have the choice to go through them or remain at the level you are. There is no God really. What you learn is that we are all God.

    So I have come to tell you all there is no death. There is no Hell for sinners. It's not like that at all. We all go to the next world and just like on this one we have freewill. There is no religion there. So its great for athiests as they can enjoy the research and learning aspects of the place. You are encouraged to engage intellectually with the concept.

    My memories were more vivid than ever. What really stuck me more than anything was there was an enormous expansion of consciousness which is hard to explain. Not only did I know everything I know, but I knew what other people know as well. There is no language there. Everything is communicated via symbols. You instantly know what they mean upon seeing them.

    On arrival was a load of people who ran over to have a look at me. I did not know any of them, but there were all really beautiful. Especially the children. Then you are guided (by yourself) through this series of levels. All of them have a symbolic aspect. I went through three levels. The last one being the inside of a giant dome where the walls were covered in glyps and pictograms which were written in red light as the dome turned. Then I was eating shitty hospital food. But when the time comes to go again, I'll be looking forward to it.

    The advice I would give to religious people is give it up. You are wasting your time. I would go as far as to say that a staunchly religious person locked into a dogma may have a very difficult time over there as it'll be nothing like their programming. I tend to be agnostic myself so I was eased into the experience. I can't say what it'll be like for an atheist, depends on how easy going their personality is I guess.

    What really struck me since this experience is how stupid the life most people live really is. Everything we are told is important; media fear mongering, the economy, politics is so utterly stupid and worthless to out consciousness as humans on this planet. It is all a gigantic waste of time. Get rid of your TV and grow something. Be creative. Anything... painting, poetry, dress making, decorating cakes, etc. Just do something creative. That's what this earth bound experience is all about.

    In terms of here on earth, the sociopaths and psychopaths who operate among us would be the negative aspect. But it is not so much about evil as they exist for the rest of us to evolve our consciousness through coming into contact with them. The dualist nature of the universe and life exists to create novelty and this is then the basis of all evolutionary trajectories, be they biological, cultural, social or spiritual. Evolution is more like an improvised Jazz session than Darwin's brutalism. It is more poetic. But in the end it does not matter who is right and who is wrong as in a way we are all doing the right thing. It's not about judgement.

    Do not fear death my friends. It is only the next stage.
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    Jul 25, 2010 10:52 AM GMT
    Hate to burst your dogma bubble but you were simply hallucinating, or experiencing a lucid dream-like state. You're going to rot in the ground when you die. I know, it's depressing. I'm working on a cure to death.
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    Jul 25, 2010 12:58 PM GMT
    I didn't bother to read this. Hidden/Deleted members have no credibility with me. (Same goes for threads from new profiles without pics or stats.)
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    Jul 25, 2010 1:33 PM GMT
    A lot of research has been carried out into 'near death' experiences. At one hospital emergency room, bright and obvious items were placed on a shelf, which could only be viewed from a position above the room. Patients who claimed to have experienced a sensation of 'floating above the room and looking down at themselves' were later asked about the objects on the shelf. None could recall them.

    It seems that such 'out of body' experiences are simply the brain's coping mechanism when we are close to death. Pity, but there it is.
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    Jul 25, 2010 1:36 PM GMT

    This was such a pivital moment in your life it left you hiding and purring like a cat....... meow. What a Losericon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jul 25, 2010 1:37 PM GMT
    bernd saidI didn't bother to read this. Hidden/Deleted members have no credibility with me. (Same goes for threads from new profiles without pics or stats.)



    Yeah, the whole hidden/deleted thing is weird. I'm just assuming it's gramma again. Gramma, if it's you, quit bothering me, I told you I would find a boyfriend soon!
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    Jul 25, 2010 1:43 PM GMT

    By coincidence, last night I commented in another thread and told of my own series of 'near death experiences'. Each of them is remarkably similar to the others. But, as much as I would like to believe that some element of my being was preparing to move intact to another realm, my hunch is that my brain was being flooded with neurochemistry and electricity in a way that generated a series of intensely life like dreams. I expect that when I die the collection of matter and energy that I identify as 'me' will be redistributed, some of it very quickly and some of it over decades. I don't think that belief need lead to nihilism. Quite the opposite: I find it enervating to think that entire chance to live is happening in a wink of the cosmic eye so I had better make the most of it! Carpe diem.
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:00 PM GMT
    Mil8 said...It seems that such 'out of body' experiences are simply the brain's coping mechanism when we are close to death.

    Yes, I concluded many years ago it was all in our own brains as they begin to shut down. Although I'm not so sure I would term the phenomenon "coping," though I suppose it might be. Rather, I think it may be a neurological reflex as different parts of the brain begin to fail. This would not be the same as dreaming, in which all areas of the brain remain intact but in a sleeping state.

    And of course an elegant issue to consider is whether the person is actually perceiving the out-of-body experience while these changes are happening to the brain, or rather if these images are generated AFTER a recovery starts to restore brain function. Which would make it a kind of post-event false memory, as the returning brain reconstructs those moments, possibly interpreting them in cultural terms, such as angels coming to them to explain the hallucination of light, which was really originating from the neurons themselves during the dying process.

    After all, we only have the testimony of people who DON'T die, but are revived, who "live to tell the tale." No way for us to ask the person who never recovers but dies if they were conscious of such an experience as they were fading away.
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:07 PM GMT
    That 'we are all God' concept resonates with me, as that is kinda what I believe.

    I like the sound of the afterlife, if it's as you describe. How do you know it's the same for everyone though...?
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:08 PM GMT
    Seems like this post is actually nothing but ragging on God...
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:10 PM GMT
    Wilton said
    Mil8 said...It seems that such 'out of body' experiences are simply the brain's coping mechanism when we are close to death.

    Yes, I concluded many years ago it was all in our own brains as they begin to shut down. Although I'm not so sure I would term the phenomenon "coping," though I suppose it might be. Rather, I think it may be a neurological reflex as different parts of the brain begins to fail. This would not be the same as dreaming, in which all areas of the brain remain intact but in a sleeping state.

    And of course an elegant issue to consider is whether the person is actually perceiving the out-of-body experience while these changes are happening to the brain, or rather if these images are generated AFTER a recovery starts to restore brain function. Which would make it a kind of post-event false memory, as the returning brain reconstructs those moments, possibly interpreting them in cultural terms, such as angels coming to them to explain the hallucination of light, which was really originating from the neurons themselves during the dying process.

    After all, we only have the testimony of people who DON'T die, but are revived, who "live to tell the tale.". No way for us to ask the person who never recovers but dies if they were conscious of such an experience as they were fading away.

    Very well put. After quite a bit of reading on the subject this was what I took away as well.
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:22 PM GMT
    Wilton said...
    Rather, I think it may be a neurological reflex as different parts of the brain begins to fail.
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    That makes incredibly good sense.
    Just like hallucinating from certain drugs. As the drugs cause parts of the brain to shut down, the person begins to see weird shit. The OP's description actually reminds me of my first mushroom trip. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 25, 2010 2:31 PM GMT
    Its been proven its chemistry. Sorry Hidden Man.
  • calibro

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    Jul 25, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
    hmm... while you were doing that i was eating a hoagie with swiss cheese on it... coincidence? i think not.
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    Jul 25, 2010 5:42 PM GMT
    Mmmmm. Hoagies!
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    Jul 25, 2010 5:43 PM GMT
    Who wants popcorn?
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    Jul 25, 2010 5:45 PM GMT
    lmfao
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    Jul 25, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
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    Jul 25, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    Sounds like O.P. ate some happy mushrooms.
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    Jul 25, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
    bernd saidI didn't bother to read this. Hidden/Deleted members have no credibility with me. (Same goes for threads from new profiles without pics or stats.)


    ^This. Well said.
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    Jul 25, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
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    bernd saidI didn't bother to read this. Hidden/Deleted members have no credibility with me. (Same goes for threads from new profiles without pics or stats.)


    ^This. Well said.


    Especially if their screen names are "MeowMeowMeow"
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    Jul 25, 2010 6:17 PM GMT
    ....I'm sleepy now and I only read one sentence.
  • hanzo83

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    Feb 23, 2013 8:22 PM GMT
    This is almost exactly what my conclusions are now after years of being a christian. There is only life and only your body dies. We are all collectively god and there is no hell or judgement of any kind once we go over. It's so comforting to be able to know this stuff and not go through life worrying about death or the unknown.
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    Feb 23, 2013 8:30 PM GMT
    Can you change your look?
    Or you stay the same?
    If you stay the same, I suggest we all die young.
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