Possible vice presidents?

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    Feb 13, 2008 11:20 PM GMT
    To go along with the Obama/Clinton thread, I thought it would be interesting to hear what people think about possible VP choices.

    I think if Clinton is the nominee, she would be crazy not to choose Obama.

    Obama, on the other hand, might be better off with someone like Richardson. Richardson has executive experience (governor of NM) and he has strong ties to the Latino community. I think Clinton should be in the cabinet (Secretary of State?), but maybe not on his ticket...making her VP seems like a waste of talent.

    I imagine McCain will need someone whose politics are to the right of his own, but not so far that he alienates the middle. I don't know who that leaves. For someone who brings plain-old conservative cred...Gingrich? Not much appeal to the middle there, though.

    Thoughts?
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    Feb 14, 2008 2:12 AM GMT
    Richardson is a walking bag of gaffes, unfortunately, since I think he's a good guy.

    I think Jim Webb would be a natural for Obama. For Hillary, someone like Brian Schweitzer, to give her help in the West. Also, he's a red-stater and popular with independents.

    McCain? He should pick Rick Santorum, to get those pesky evangelicals.
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    Feb 14, 2008 2:14 AM GMT
    jprichva suggestedMcCain? He should pick Rick Santorum, to get those pesky evangelicals.


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    Feb 14, 2008 2:42 AM GMT
    McCain might go for Condoleezza Rice- that would one up Clinton or Obama (black and a woman!). Or he could go for Lieberman, who's endorsed him over the other Dems....
  • Hunter9

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    Feb 14, 2008 2:50 AM GMT
    Clinton wouldn't pick Obama because she knows he would over shadow her and Obama wouldn't accept playing second fiddle when he could (rather, should) be the nominee.

    For the Dems, should pick Joe Biden... VERY smart man.
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    Feb 14, 2008 2:58 AM GMT
    I think Webb would be a good choice, too, but he doesn't have a real love or comfort for politics. But the military experience would be valuable. As an alternative for that, I think Wes Clark would be very receptive to be on either ticket.
  • Haddy

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    Feb 14, 2008 12:52 PM GMT
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned Edwards yet. He's a pretty decent guy and did have some good policies he campaigned on before he pulled out of the race. I think an Obama-Edwards ticket could work quite well...
  • vacyclist

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    Feb 14, 2008 1:31 PM GMT
    As a Virginia Democrat who worked hard to elect Jim Webb, I hope they leave him where he is--in the Senate! I think Richardson would be a good choice for either Obama or Clinton.

    As for the Republican offerings, I have no comment to offer. Not my cup of tea.
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    Feb 14, 2008 2:31 PM GMT
    If McCain picks Huckabee you better hope he stays healthy otherwise the US is in trouble! Hopefully he will pick someone that would be capable enough to takeover if he was incapacitated, but not so capable or power hungry that he was overshadowed (like Cheney).

    I cannot imagine Hillary Clinton being the VP to Obama but I could imagine Obama being her VP. Edwards is too much of a populist for Obama, between the two of them I can see them kowtowing to the unions, getting out of free trade agreements and becoming isolationists. Some might think this is a good thing, but in todays world that spells disaster in the long run.
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    Feb 14, 2008 3:13 PM GMT
    yalemarine saidMcCain might go for Condoleezza Rice- that would one up Clinton or Obama (black and a woman!). Or he could go for Lieberman, who's endorsed him over the other Dems....


    Rice for Vice would be amazing. Talk about historic!
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    Feb 14, 2008 4:12 PM GMT
    Richardson would be great, but John Edwards might help to deliver the South, which has been a hard capture for the Democrats since LBJ.
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    Feb 14, 2008 4:17 PM GMT
    i hope condi crawls back under the rock she came from. she has been totally inept in everything except supporting her "husband", eh president.

    dems better get back in office or this country will take even more decades to recover from the bush debacle.

    mccain is a war monger "bomb bomb bomb iran" made (makes) my skin crawl. that is not the way to deal with conflicts in today's world!
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    Feb 14, 2008 4:19 PM GMT
    Edwards would probably make a good VP, but I don't think he has enough presence to capture the imagination of voters. Joe Biden might be a better fit. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, I don't think either Hillary or Barack would pick the other as the VP.
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    Feb 14, 2008 4:20 PM GMT
    screw john edwards. he pussed out early to give obama a lead. boo edwards! boo!

    personally i think clinton should win the nomination and take obama as a vp. she'll actually get shit done, and he'll inspire the nation to rally behind competent leadership.
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    Feb 14, 2008 5:35 PM GMT
    genqb saidscrew john edwards.



    did someone say screw john edwards.. hmmm.. icon_biggrin.gif




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    Feb 14, 2008 5:49 PM GMT
    Obama - Bill Bradley (need NJ & elder statesmen, please, please, please), Claire McCaskill (need MO & women), Kathryn Sebelius (Midwest & women), Biden (smart, competent, but he, like Edwards, doesn't draw well)

    McCain - Jack Kemp, Fred Thompson

    Clinton - Richardson
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    Feb 14, 2008 5:55 PM GMT
    Obama needs someone with foreign relations and defense experience. So my money is on Joe Biden or Bill Richardson. Gov. Sebelius would be a very interesting choice though.

    Clinton needs someone who can get votes from Independents and Republicans. I don't think Obama should or would accept.

    McCain should go with someone to appeal to either Evangelicals or fiscal conservatives. Mitch McConnell would be a good choice. Rock Santorum makes me want to throw up, but it would work for McCain.

  • Feb 15, 2008 6:11 AM GMT
    I think that a good choice for either Obama or Clinton would be former Sen. Sam Nunn of Georgia, a very decent fellow and a senior statesman, who is well-respected by both sides of the aisle. Since Nunn is not especially charasmatic, he would not outperform either Obama or Clinton on the campaign trail. For me, character and competence is far more important in a V.P. than charisma.

    As far as who should be McCain's running mate I really have no clue. I do not think that our Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty would be a very wise choice at all. Having said that, I must confess that Pawlenty is very smooth and charming but at times he does what Jesse Ventura used to do and that is he opens his mouth before thinking and causes great consternation for us.
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    Feb 15, 2008 7:03 AM GMT
    I am hoping the Ticket will end up being

    Obama / Clinton


    The US will come of age as soon as we have a president who is either black, female, or gay.

    I hope we can get two of the three in ths election.
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    Feb 15, 2008 7:19 AM GMT
    fitone saidi hope condi crawls back under the rock she came from. she has been totally inept in everything except supporting her "husband", eh president.


    Have to go with Fitone here . . . As Trump once said, "What's she ever done but walk nicely off a plane . . . she can't close a deal."

    Condileeza Rice is superficially attractive for McCain only because she's black and female (and BTW a closet case). But the press has pretty much ignored her record; as a vice-presidential candidate people would actually start to focus on her and her record . . . which is pretty much short of pathetic!

    So I'd love for McCain to pick yet another incompetent Bush appointee . . . it would just remind the public that McCain is just "Bush-lite."
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    Feb 15, 2008 8:31 AM GMT
    I was hoping Richardson, as well. We'll see.

    McCain should just cut the middle man and go straight for Jesus.
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    Feb 15, 2008 10:31 AM GMT
    Shortly after leaving the Army, while I was a very low level wonk with a very new desk at IBM working for Mr. Gerstner, I attended a group of conferences the Clinton Admin set up to get the best and the brightest out of the Computer & Technology Industry and Entrepreneurs. Computer and Technology industry officials at the highest possible levels were called to Washington and LISTENED to.

    Those conferences, I am convinced, set the stage for the federal governments assistance in promoting a technology and Internet BOOM in the mid to late 90's.

    Bush came into office and the Technology industry was virtually ignored except for a VASTLY resurgent spending on military technology - most of that given to traditional players in the military industrial complex.

    A huge part of the responsibility for that came from the close working relationship between Clinton and his VP, Gore. Far closer really than any other admin that I can think of.

    Gore was also responsible for much of the consolidation and simplification of tax laws, and elimination of waste and redundancy in the government, as well as real reformations in how the pentagon did business.

    The only people I can see having that kind of working relationship with either Clinton or Obama are Edwards, and Biden. They are also the only ones that I think would have the 'back room' experience that is required for real house cleaning change.

    I also think they are the only ones who could form such a close relationship with the technology industry again.

  • cacti

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    Feb 15, 2008 12:48 PM GMT
    The biggest reason Edwards didn't do as well with the general population is because of the way the media presented him. Like it or not, they paint the picture. (or one lack thereof)

    His speeches were far more inspiring than either of the candidates are offering now, and in a lot of those key early debates people voted him the winner. Not enough people were paying attention to ALL the candidates when it really mattered, and when crunch time came the media said it was a two candidate race(like they always do) before the people ever even cast a vote. Preemptive polls need to be outlawed in the media... absolutely ridiculous and completely unscientific, but highly influential to many who see the 'results' on the nightly news.

    However, he(Edwards) did not lose the war. Neither one of these candidate had the balls to create the policy and promises they(well, mostly 'she' since Obama has become painfully and consistently vague) give now until Edwards tested the waters very early on. They've been systematically stealing his policy and talking points every single time it bode well for him. Sucks for Edwards big time.. since people weren't paying enough attention(again)

    Obama is too much of a rockstar to ever take second chair. I don't believe he would accept, and I'm not sure Hillary would pick him unless under great pressure to do so.

    Right now, I would love to see Hillary take the nomination with Edwards as her running mate. Unlikely though, since Edwards has claimed early on he would not run for vice if he didn't make the nomination.
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    Feb 19, 2008 5:08 PM GMT
    I believe that McCain will pick Romney. Don't you think that is why Romney bowed out so quickly rather than damage McCain like Huckabee is doing? Romney is more conservative and can help deliver states like Pennsylvannia and Michigan.

    Clinton would need to pick Obama just to be able to beat McCain. The fact is that Clinton is HATED by conservatives as much as Bush is hated by the liberals. She is unelectable in my opinion... Only Obama could bring the additional votes to get her in.

    Obama needs to pick someone who is perceived to have lots of experience; possibly experience with the military/foreign affairs. Really no ideas there, but Clinton does nothing to help him so I don't think that will happen.

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    Feb 19, 2008 5:52 PM GMT
    The dream ticket (for me at least) would be Obama and Gore! But I know that won't happen, but I think I'd be a pretty strong ticket to run on. An Obama-Edwards ticket would secure a strong southern vote (I guess) which would would work better for an election since the south traditionally goes to republicans.

    Also, Richardson!?!?! Didn't you guys watch him at the Logo Democratic Debate? Awful!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFtYlFPS5o