Why do we not have equal rights?

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    Jul 26, 2010 8:51 AM GMT
    ... I'll be honest, this question has been on my mind for quite awhile now.... "Why do we not have equal rights?"

    I'll explain... which, I'm in Mississippi, so I'm certain that it's different in different states due to local laws, but this is how it is here. We can't... join the military... or have joint adoptions... homosexuality isn't covered under discrimination (meaning that you can be fired for being gay...and it's technically not discrimination according to the state... and yes, it happened to me, if you must know)... we can't have a formal declaration of commitment to our partners (by marriage or civil union). ... I mean, hell, what rights do we really have?

    ...what happened? I look at the history books and see what happened after the Stonewall Riots and see that within a relatively few years we went from a community that was underground to a community that was popping up EVERYWHERE. I honestly don't understand, how is it that we as a community did so much over those few years... yet decades later we still don't have that much to show for it? Maybe I'm young and naive, not being around for all that, but I honestly would've expected more to happen over these last few years.

    I want to know... did we, as a everyday members of the gay community, get a few basic human rights and go, "Well that's good enough for now, I'm sure that they'll do more in the future." I mean, I know that there are groups out there still fighting the good fight and whatnot... however, it seems like it's nowhere close to being how it was. .... I mean.... I guess the biggest question of all is....did we as a community just...give up?
  • GQjock

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    Jul 26, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
    It's called religious fundamentalism and the republican party

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    Jul 26, 2010 10:51 AM GMT
    Pfff, considering the fact that we were considered a clinical psychological disorder only a few decades ago, that we were gassed in WWii along with Jews, that we were mamed, tortured and burned at the stake to release the "demons" that had overtaken our bodies in the middle ages... I think we've come quite a long way mate

    And yes, we still have a long way to go... sodomy is still illegal in most countries, and punishable by death in many, and marriage legal in only a few countries worldwide

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    Jul 26, 2010 1:40 PM GMT
    I'm 59 years old. There was a Jewish Quota at the hospitals where I wanted to do an internship in the 1970s. It wasn't published, but you count the residents in each class and it came out to a perfect number in each class.

    Things broke loose a few years later when women and minorities were blasting the doors.

    If you look at civil rights there is a 'tipping point" in each class that quickly accelerates rights won. We have not reached that point, though I think we are very close.

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  • Hokenshi

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    Jul 26, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
    No, you have nowhere near equal rights. In fact when it comes to the rights of gay people, America is quite far behind compared to other Western countries.

    It's really shocking that many things we Brits take for granted as part of our daily lives you guys are still fighting for, we still have a ways to go on certain issues but i'm glad to say that we're nearly on par with straight people.
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    Jul 26, 2010 4:06 PM GMT
    Not even close. One thing that is embedded is the American Psyche is the will to fight for the right to discriminate.

    We have been lagging behind many parts of the world for years, and as a nation, have very very little moral high ground left.
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    Jul 26, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    No we don't have equal rights yet, however I do things have been getting better.

    Religious fundamentalism is the main reason that we are not where we need to be today. Additionally, the GLBT community has been it's own worst enemy in some cases.

    How many times have we read posts on these forums from individuals who say "there are more important things than gay rights" as they cast their votes for politicians that will not support gay issues, and in some cases will actually reverse progress made by the GLBT community.

    How many times do we hear people say "I don't care about gay marriage because I will never get married myself", never understanding the greater meaning behind obtaining this right.

    Fortunately, there are many in the GLBT community who are actively looking to bring about change. I know we will eventually get there, but we need to keep the conversation going, ideas flowing and community members actively working on bringing about change.

    Hopefully, your concerns will spur you to take action in your community to bring about change.

    Don't ever give up!
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    Jul 26, 2010 6:19 PM GMT
    No, what made you think we do.. do you live under a rock?

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    Jul 26, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
    sdgman saidNot even close. One thing that is embedded is the American Psyche is the will to fight for the right to discriminate.

    We have been lagging behind many parts of the world for years, and as a nation, have very very little moral high ground left.


    The whole world is lagging--not just the United States.
  • inuman

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    Jul 26, 2010 10:12 PM GMT
    Oh just move to Canada you'll get WAY more rights then you'll ever hope to in your lifetime living in the good ol USA.

    Speaking of rights have any of you seen the movie Samuel Jackson was in called "Unthinkable"? Damn that shit was intense. icon_twisted.gif
  • NashRugger

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    Jul 26, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    Hell no.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 26, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    BlkMuscleGent, the whole world is definitely not lagging in gay rights progress that is for sure. The US lags behind almost all other industrialized countries in terms of gay rights. Now for poor, third world countries, the US is virtually light years ahead of most third world countries on gay rights. The narrow-minded, bible thumping screwballs in the conservative right wing want the US to be more like most of the third world when it comes to gay rights.
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    Jul 26, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
    Do we really have equal rights?

    In the US? This can't be a serious question. The US is one of the most backward and retarded countries in the world regarding gay rights. You have to compare the US to Muslim countries to find worse.

    And a perfect example are the RJ members here who argue against gay rights, on behalf of what they think are their selfish economic interests, blindly following Republican propaganda. And ironically even that assumption is mistaken, so they lose on both counts: as gays, and in their pockets, when they vote Republican.

    Unless their income is above $200k, and then they're arguing for tax breaks the rest of us don't get. Can you say selfish pigs?