Thinking about joining the Air Force.

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    Jul 28, 2010 6:57 AM GMT
    Anyone in the Air Force or know someone in it? I've read the basics, but wondering if it was worth signing or not? Anyone regret it? If I do sign i'm still going to finish college, so either way i'll get a degree. Discuss.
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    Jul 28, 2010 8:27 AM GMT
    Gman005 saidAnyone in the Air Force or know someone in it? I've read the basics, but wondering if it was worth signing or not? Anyone regret it? If I do sign i'm still going to finish college, so either way i'll get a degree. Discuss.


    OK, this must be some wierd coincidence again

    Just yesterday I met 4 guys in the US air force, all of them really cool, took them around the island barhopping and listening to their life stories, one of tem told me "think about joining the military" which I could do as a US citizen, and I had always thought about joining the air force, I love planes icon_razz.gif

    I could relay these questions to them next time I see em if you like... Im sure they'll give you a good inside opinion
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    Jul 28, 2010 9:48 AM GMT
    I served for 6 years as an electronics warfare technician and crew recovery troop. It was a Love hate relationship. If i could go back and do it again I would but I'd change some things. My best advice is to do what you are doing here as well as if you know any people personally in real life and pick their brains a bit. I say that for the one thing i commonly hear from people including me im guilty of saying this , "my recruiter lied to me"...

    What most people dont realize is that they are relaying their experiences and information a majority of the time of when they were in service and in those cases it was a good 5 to 20 years ago. so its not that they lie to you, its that the info is not up to par with whats currently going on.

    speak to friends and speak to recruiters and read between the lines. and the most important thing is to ask yourself why are you goin in for? if its for college tuition money, how much is that worth to you? if its just to get out of your town , is signing 4 or 6 years of your life away worth it?
    most people forget when you sign in you can t just quit like any normal job so make sure you know what type of career path you want to pursuewhich will not only help you while you're in the service but translate to a great civilian counterpart once you get out. For me it was worth sigining even though I went through a tremendous amount of heart ache and paid the price in other areas but if asked to do it again I would in a heart beat.


    I miss the structure, knowing that I will ALWAYS get paid a paycheck and that my housing and medical was always taken care of. The only thing I regret was handling being in the service and being gay in my particular situation. other than that I dont regret one thing. my best friend of 12 years now i met in basic and currently we're both roommate. we served overseas together and been there for each other through the good and bad.



    If you're going for a degree I have to outright ask you what your plans are for advancing in rank?
    If you complete your degree you can opt to enter the airforce as an officer in the case you don't do officer school i think you start out at E-3 rank which is pretty decent if you are single. now this information right here with your degree and college course work i would definitely do your homework on and get info because alot may have changed since i was in 5 years ago.

    From what I remember you can get tuition reimbursement where they will pay off your student loans and pay for you to finish your degree if its in the career field you are currently joining for. i think it may have changed to they will pay off any loans regardless of what career field you go to. I would definately hammer on those questions if any other RJers here can answer or if you know any people who currently serve that would be a great starting point.
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    Jul 28, 2010 9:53 AM GMT
    dude go army. airforce is a bunch of brats
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    Jul 28, 2010 9:59 AM GMT
    Armyguy1313 saiddude go army. airforce is a bunch of brats


    One person's experience isnt universally going to be the same for everyone, I'd like to know WHY you think EVERYONE in the Air force are a bunch of brats . If you're going to bash a branch at least back it up with something called facts examples, etc, etc.

    Just doin what you did doesnt help Gman005 out in ANY way and just sounds like you personally had a bad experience. out of most the people I meet from different branches, they all agree, we may be different services but we're all one team towards one goal, so when people like you start stuff like that It's kinda hard for me to understand. and yes I have served with marines, army, navy, UK forces, and civilian contracting groups, I see you have too so why the overgeneralized comment icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 28, 2010 10:01 AM GMT
    Air Force is probably the best choice for gay men. I remember back in my Navy days when I was stationed in Pensacola for a period. There, I bunked, ate and showered with Marines and Navy men, but most of my close friends were Air Force servicemen from Eglin/Fort Walton.

    If the military is your calling, go Air Force (especially if you're going in as enlisted).
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    Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM GMT
    I always hear the army bashing the navy and the air force... marines seemed to me the hardest, but I never hear them bashing the others to me personally
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    Jul 28, 2010 12:32 PM GMT
    amar_m said
    Gman005 saidAnyone in the Air Force or know someone in it? I've read the basics, but wondering if it was worth signing or not? Anyone regret it? If I do sign i'm still going to finish college, so either way i'll get a degree. Discuss.


    OK, this must be some wierd coincidence again

    Just yesterday I met 4 guys in the US air force, all of them really cool, took them around the island barhopping and listening to their life stories, one of tem told me "think about joining the military" which I could do as a US citizen, and I had always thought about joining the air force, I love planes icon_razz.gif

    I could relay these questions to them next time I see em if you like... Im sure they'll give you a good inside opinion


    that's the boring part of the story... start at the part where you all get nakey icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 28, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
    People in my family have joined every branch except the Coast Guard. They have all said the same thing. The Air Force is the best overall branch to join. It is harder to move up in rank, but it is the most technologically advanced. It seems that they have more money to spend on their people and will train you very well if your education will match their mission.

    This is not from personal experience. I have heard this from 3 uncles, two brothers, and a cousin.
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    Jul 28, 2010 3:24 PM GMT
    i'm thinking about joining too but they're soo packed right now that you'd have to wait almost a year to ship out to basic
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    Jul 28, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    reppaT saidAir Force is probably the best choice for gay men. I remember back in my Navy days when I was stationed in Pensacola for a period. There, I bunked, ate and showered with Marines and Navy men, but most of my close friends were Air Force servicemen from Eglin/Fort Walton.

    If the military is your calling, go Air Force (especially if you're going in as enlisted).





    icon_biggrin.gif you just got my out of my undies
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Jul 28, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    I am thinking of joining the AF myself Do it dude icon_smile.gif I really think it would be an awesome experience for you icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    I have even looked into all branches; after all of my research I'd go Air Force, do the OCS program if you can - you'll have a degree and be ranked quickly.

    But yes - READ THE FINE LINES. Be patient and weary prior to signing - ask all the questions possible.

  • JockChefJim

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    Jul 28, 2010 4:27 PM GMT
    I was in for many years which is funny considering I only was going to do 4 years. I loved it. I spent a summer in Cuba with all four branches and I learned how thankful I was to be Air Force. They take care of thier people better, more relaxed atmosphere and the food is better. ;-) Just don't go in open general. Be sure you have a secure job when you enlist. Basic for us is easy....just a stupid mind game....play it and you'll be out of there fast. Good luck.....Aim High! LOL
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    Jul 28, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
    I have to say joining the military in general is pretty cool. I applaud you for even thinking about it. In terms of my experience.

    However I found that the air force was not the best match for me and where i wanted to go with my career. There are a few major reasons I avoided the air force. The culture of air force is much more akin to a private corporation than that of a a military organization. I really want to be part of an organization that was more military in manner.

    Also from the many interactions I have had with the air force in my job and in joint force training (which my job requires) I have not enjoyed the amount of elitism I have encountered. It was as if they were entitled to everything and that because they were air force I must bow down to them. Which frankly wasn't going to happen. I outranked most of them and was more proficient in our field.

    I almost scored a perfect score on the asvab and have a college degree in my field. I know my shit. I am a smart dude. Every branch has their smart dudes this rumor that all the air force is intelligent and cutting is not entirely factual. Each branch is doing some really cool things. For the most part in the air force you wont get to experience nearly as much as would say in the marine or army. But hey if being stuck at a desk is your thing go for it.

    The army is much larger organization than the air force and the opportunity in my perspective is much more accessible than in the air force. I am working with some of the most brilliant military strategist our country has right now and really get to see the inner works of how the United States military operates.

    as for gay culture in the branches, life for the gays in the army is actually the easiest in most accessible. I have gay friends in all the branches and by far the ones in the army can somewhat live their lives normally. There is much more of a sense of belonging in the gay army community than any other branch.

    Facilities I have traveled quit a bit and seen many posts. The army treats its soldiers well. I mean my barracks room has a walk in closet that is amazing and a private kitchen.

    my advice to you is check out every branch and keep an open mind. By the time i went with the army i had every branch hounding me. So i went with what was best for me. The job the army offered and the bonus that came along with it was just too good to say no to
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    Jul 28, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    amar_m saidI always hear the army bashing the navy and the air force... marines seemed to me the hardest, but I never hear them bashing the others to me personally



    Haha trust me the marines bash. icon_smile.gif once you get them away from civilians they are the craziest of the bunch. I have nothing but respect for the marines.

    Also a quick note for those not in the military the humor is a bit more harsh and a bit more abrasive than what is normal in the civilian world. So this so called "bashing" is just everyday fun in the military.

    you have to have a thick skin in order to make it in the military
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    Jul 28, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
    amar_m said I had always thought about joining the air force, I love planes icon_razz.gif


    me too....
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    Jul 28, 2010 7:15 PM GMT
    Thick skin is a must. The first hour of my workday was 100% my crew talking shit to each other and joking around (abrasive was a good word) yet we all know that we have each other's back when it comes down to it. I'm not in the army, but I thought it particularly funny when I was doing joint trng at an Army base and I saw two enlisted guys in a formation just start throwing punches, next thing you know they're all out in a ground fight. 2 or 3 minutes elapse and their back in formation like nothing happened. SOP. Expect to know the terms FUBAR and SNAFU well because its government work. In my opinion, the military was the best thing I did with my life, send me a PM if you want more info.
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    Jul 28, 2010 7:16 PM GMT
    sportsman saidThick skin is a must. The first hour of my workday was 100% my crew talking shit to each other and joking around (abrasive was a good word) yet we all know that we have each other's back when it comes down to it. I'm not in the army, but I thought it particularly funny when I was doing joint trng at an Army base and I saw two enlisted guys in a formation just start throwing punches, next thing you know they're all out in a ground fight. 2 or 3 minutes elapse and their back in formation like nothing happened. SOP. Expect to know the terms FUBAR and SNAFU well because its government work. In my opinion, the military was the best thing I did with my life, send me a PM if you want more info.


    hooah! thats how the army roles
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    Jul 28, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    I would recommend a career in the armed forces. It can be a little tougher being gay, but then, you have to develop a pretty thick skin to thrive in the military, regardless of your sexuality.

    It will be a whole lot better when DADT goes. That is not because it will change your behaviour. It will just allow you not to have to worry about being outed by accident. I joined the UK forces when being gay was still a sackable offence, so I speak from experience and know how much better it feels without that particular millstone hanging around your neck!

    The branch you choose is down to what suits your personality. Just do plenty of research before you jump.
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    Jul 29, 2010 7:45 AM GMT
    Thanks to everyone who's replied and/or pm'd me. I will reply to all pms tomorrow. Sorry today was a busy day so anytime I was on I was at work and had no time to reply. I definately appreciate the advice guys.
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    Jul 29, 2010 7:49 AM GMT
    Don't do it!icon_eek.gif

    Take my advice and keep your sanity as a civi. If you do join don't do crew chief or cop, I was a Security Forces and now I'm a crew chief on heavys. Only part I don't like about crew chief is working with the aircrew.

    But if you want specifics hit me up