Gay marriage in South Africa

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    Jul 28, 2010 8:46 AM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/world/africa/28capetown.html?hp
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    Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM GMT
    What are nice article! icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 28, 2010 10:12 AM GMT
    Yes, once Apartheid and discrimination became outlawed... sexual minorities gained the same rights that racial minorities did... all equality
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    Jul 28, 2010 3:09 PM GMT
    Any my future adopted home country is wonderful despite it's challenges. It will be a nice change from the religious fundies and ridiculousness here in the US surrounding gay marriage. Not that they don't have their detractors of homosexuality, but it's strictly a personal thing and government has no part in promoting anti-gay attitudes in law. I love my South African husband and I can't wait to start a new life there. My future in-laws are fantastic and I couldn't be happier! icon_razz.gif
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    Jul 28, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
    I don't like how they blame the Afrikaners for everything wrong and racist and homophobic. This is the New York Times and they should know better. Apartheid was run with a large amount of English support. I went to an Afrikaans medium University and an English medium University, and the amount of overt racism among English-speaking students there was far, far worse then anything I had seen among Afrikaners. As an innocent young Afrikaner student in a new English environment, I was absolutely blown away by their attitudes - I had never been exposed to anyone so brutally racist in my life.

    Remember it was Afrikaners who ended apartheid. The Afrikaans Dutch reformed church supports gay marriage now, whereas the English Anglican church does not.
  • DanOmatic

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    Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
    Like so many things, like health care, education and quality of life outcomes, the US has drifted far behind other countries. That the notion of equality for gays and lesbians (whether one desires marriage for oneself or not) has found firm footing in such unlikely places as Argentina and South Africa, while still deemed unacceptable by a large percentage of Americans, is just another example of the surprising backwardness of the United States.
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    Jul 28, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
    NC3athlete saidLike so many things, like health care, education and quality of life outcomes, the US has drifted far behind other countries. That the notion of equality for gays and lesbians (whether one desires marriage for oneself or not) has found firm footing in such unlikely places as Argentina and South Africa, while still deemed unacceptable by a large percentage of Americans, is just another example of the surprising backwardness of the United States.


    It´s not surprising when you take the evangelical influence on politics seriously, though it does make you question whether America is part of western society.
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    Jul 28, 2010 10:02 PM GMT
    Compared to most African nations, the US is way ahead on gay rights. Granted things could be better in the US but we are not all that bad off. I am happy to see South Africa embrace gay marriage even though there are still some societal setbacks for gay men in that country. Hopefully this new law will help discard those setbacks. Hopefully other African nations will observe and learn and then repeal all their anti-gay legislation. Time will only tell.
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    Jul 28, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    Hopefully this new law will help discard those setbacks.

    Since gay marriage has been legal in South Africa since 2006, I'm not sure that 'new' quite applies anymore.
  • DanOmatic

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    Jul 29, 2010 1:30 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidCompared to most African nations, the US is way ahead on gay rights. Granted things could be better in the US but we are not all that bad off. I am happy to see South Africa embrace gay marriage even though there are still some societal setbacks for gay men in that country. Hopefully this new law will help discard those setbacks. Hopefully other African nations will observe and learn and then repeal all their anti-gay legislation. Time will only tell.


    To compare the US to most of Africa where gay rights are concerned is not saying very much. Yes, the US is somewhere between, say, Uganda (where being gay is a capital crime) and South Africa (with equal rights for gays, including marriage), but that's a huge and not very promising spectrum The US is still woefully backward in this respect compared to other members of the developed, industrialized world.