DOMA Denies Green Card for Legally Married Gays

  • metta

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    Jul 29, 2010 3:18 AM GMT
    DOMA Denies Green Card for Legally Married Gays



    Sorry....they removed the story....here is the youtube clip:




    http://www.boiseweekly.com/Cobweb/archives/2010/07/28/doma-denies-green-card-for-legally-married-gays
  • Menergy_1

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    Jul 29, 2010 3:44 AM GMT
    website error, metta8 -- says it doesn't exist.....

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    Jul 29, 2010 4:06 AM GMT
    While the link is being fixed, I'll note that this is an issue I have mentioned several time here before. Some DOMA supporters (even here, sadly), falsely claim that DOMA is simply about States rights to decide what marriage is.

    But DOMA has 2 parts: that dealing with the States being given the authority to refuse to recognize gay marriage from other States, without their being in conflict with the "good faith and credit clause" in the US Constitution, but also a second part that prohibits the FEDERAL government from recognizing any gay State marriage, or from foreign governments, plus denying Social Security benefits and a thousand other things to gay couples that State marriage grants to straights within the US.

    So while on the one hand, Republican hypocrites say DOMA is merely about States rights, when they wrote the bill they made sure that the Federal government can't acknowledge a State's right to grant gay marriage. And before this is thrown in, I'll say that President Clinton's decision to sign the Republican-authored DOMA was shameful, and a political cave-in, to majority Congressional Republicans who threatened to block other legislation Clinton valued more critical to his agenda at the time.
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    Jul 29, 2010 6:59 AM GMT
    Yup. Even in the few states that gay people can marry, they still do not have equal rights due to DOMA.

    The Clintons are no friends to the gay community, and will say anything to anyone to get elected... and through anyone under the bus if it's politically expedient to them.

    DOMA is the biggest impediment to gay rights out there.
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    Jul 29, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    Wilton saidWhile the link is being fixed, I'll note that this is an issue I have mentioned several time here before. Some DOMA supporters (even here, sadly), falsely claim that DOMA is simply about States rights to decide what marriage is.

    But DOMA has 2 parts: that dealing with the States being given the authority to refuse to recognize gay marriage from other States, without their being in conflict with the "good faith and credit clause" in the US Constitution, but also a second part that prohibits the FEDERAL government from recognizing any gay State marriage, or from foreign governments, plus denying Social Security benefits and a thousand other things to gay couples that State marriage grants to straights within the US.

    So while on the one hand, Republican hypocrites say DOMA is merely about States rights, when they wrote the bill they made sure that the Federal government can't acknowledge a State's right to grant gay marriage. And before this is thrown in, I'll say that President Clinton's decision to sign the Republican-authored DOMA was shameful, and a political cave-in, to majority Congressional Republicans who threatened to block other legislation Clinton valued more critical to his agenda at the time.


    Wilton,

    DOMA cannot be laid at the feet of the Republicans. Over a third of the house votes came from Democrats and the same in the Senate. The Dems could have killed it in the Senate and didn't. It was then signed into law by a Democrat President.

    In 1996 Clinton ran radio ads in the south touting the fact that he signed DOMA.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/15/us/ad-touts-clinton-s-opposing-gay-marriage.html

    The Democrats own the turd just as much as the Republicans.