Bad Personal Trainers

  • shortGymCA

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    Feb 15, 2008 3:20 AM GMT
    I go to a public gym which cuts down on the price, the number of us gym rats, and definitely keeps you concentrated on working out, not oggling another guys form (nothing against doing that, hell I love it).

    Recently a guy has started doing private personal training, which because its public they allow, and well he's giving his clients bad and/or potentialy dangerous advice and routines. Bad form, posture, well above what they should start on with heavy lifts, not breathing, rookie things like their knees are less than shoulder width and toes/knees aren't angled out at all on squats. I'm not an expert at all, but yikes. I assume this guys not actually certified.

    So whats my obligation here. One of his clients already started a chat with me one day and my hour workout turned into that guys 2 hour free PT session fixing the wacko's mistakes. If the advice is turn the ipod up and keep your head down thats my current coping mechanism.
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    Feb 15, 2008 4:13 AM GMT
    You have no obligation here. Those people chose him to assist them. It is their business, and none of yours.

    One gets what one pays for.
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    Feb 15, 2008 4:19 AM GMT
    I had an awesome personal trainer that helped me achieve the results you see today but there are plenty at the same gym that have no clue. They use the "cookie cutter" routines...same routine for every one of their clients..no matter what shape the person is in.

    Its up to you to say anything. I just hope those trainers have liability insurance because one bad workout can result in injury and a lawsuit.
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    Feb 15, 2008 4:26 AM GMT
    Even if you are in a public gym, you should at least discuss your concerns with the proprietors of the gym. If there is no liability insurance covering this dud PT, then it's possible that the gym itself might be liable. And regardless, they would want to make sure that their reputation isn't being tarnished by this guy.
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    Feb 15, 2008 4:52 AM GMT
    It's a public gym so the gym is not responsible for the actions of others. If this guy is gonna go out of his way to give faulty advice then it's his ass and not the gyms.

    You are a nice guy for even bothering to prevent an incident from happening. I would suggest talking to the people who have had this wacko and just inform them of the dangers for taking his advice. There really isn't much you can do besides suggest it.

    Since it's a public gym people are entitled do as they please. It really doesn't concern you in general so just make sure you aren't around when this trainner-wannabe is giving his cracked advice.
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    Feb 15, 2008 7:02 AM GMT
    Stay out of it unless they ask for advice, if they do offer something like I would do it X way and point them to the right resource or a) you could get punched in the face by said trainer b) sued by said trainer for defamation etc and c) sued by trainee if they get it totally wrong

    failing that point it out to the gym owner as he is still responsible of the health and safety of trainees regardless if they are using equipment incorrectly a basic intro session does not exhonerate in the eyes of the law
  • GQjock

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    Feb 15, 2008 11:29 AM GMT
    Unless these people are your friends and they ask you for advice
    it's let the buyer beware
    I go to a pretty much gay gym one or two days a week
    when I'm in a certain part of the city
    and there are a lot of trainers
    a few of them you can tell are picked way more for the way they look than their expertise

    ...but hey who am I to say anything?
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    Feb 15, 2008 10:20 PM GMT
    Unless they approach you, and maybe even if they do, be very careful. I suspect the "trainer" hasn't taken a medical history, so these guys may be in no shape to train at all.

    While you are presumably not being compensated for your time, and therefore of limited liability, if someone followed your instructions and was injured, they could still make trouble for you.

    Those of us who try to be the best trainers we can be follow the guidelines of our certifying agencies, and do things like health histories and physical evaluations before even taking a client onto the floor.

    I'm surprised that even a public gym would allow professional training without certification and proof of insurance (or even an insurance rider to indemnify the entity that operates the facility). Have you voiced your concerns to the gym management?

    Joey
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  • shortGymCA

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    Feb 16, 2008 4:31 PM GMT
    I'm going to say something to the gym management of my concerns just to alleviate my guilt. I already informed the one guy who asked me for advice that I'd expect compensation if he kept taking up so much of my time (jokingly). I reached the being a nice gym friend limit with him. I wouldn't train him, but it will keep him from asking for so much advice and time.