YES WE CAN!!!!

  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Feb 15, 2008 2:53 PM GMT


    In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope....

    Thoughts?
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    Feb 15, 2008 3:08 PM GMT
    An inspired nation can do a lot.
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    Feb 15, 2008 3:27 PM GMT
    SI SE PUEDE! YES WE CAN! I want changes, for a better unified nation with love and respect.

    Thanks for the video and happy friday to everyone icon_biggrin.gif
  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Feb 15, 2008 4:46 PM GMT
    A big RIGHT ON!
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    Feb 15, 2008 5:14 PM GMT
    If he is competitive in Texas and Ohio then yes, we most certainly will.
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    Feb 15, 2008 6:05 PM GMT
    The USA can achieve a lot, however Americans need to confront reality and the problems facing the nation, and not hide behind myths or wishful thinking. Also, unlike Canada, powerful lobbyists exert a lot of influence, Congress and the president need to start resisting some of these forces in order for the problems to be solved.

    Just because the defence companies want big fat contracts for expensive hardware, does not mean that the defence budget cannot be trimmed. Just because drug companies want the public to pay for their expensive prescription medications doesn't mean that limits should not be put in place like in Canada or other countries. I could go on and on but you get my drift.
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    Feb 15, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
    Yes we can ....WHAT? Change ....What? Never a lack of empty campaign slogans in this country,
  • jarhead5536

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    Feb 15, 2008 6:37 PM GMT
    Yes we can...

    Elect Hillary.
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    Feb 15, 2008 6:40 PM GMT
    Electioneering by Radiohead

    I will stop, I will stop at nothing.
    Say the right things when electioneering
    I trust I can rely on your vote.

    When I go forwards you go backwards
    and somewhere we will meet.
    When I go forwards you go backwards
    and somewhere we will meet.
    Ha ha ha

    Riot shields, voodoo economics,
    it's just business, cattle prods and the I.M.F.
    I trust I can rely on your vote.

    When I go forwards you go backwards
    and somewhere we will meet.
    When I go forwards you go backwards
    and somewhere we will meet.
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    Feb 15, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    Thanks Paradigm,

    ...and the video was not even commissioned nor paid for by the Obama campaign...yet, even on a positive thread like this, cynicism finds a way to rear its ugly head...don't let their words pull you down...stay positive!

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    Feb 15, 2008 7:58 PM GMT
    l like B O and l hope he win's...

    Don't fancy Ice Queen at all?


    But it's not my country anyway and it's up to you guy's and remember a lot of you voted for GB and now look a what fine mess you got me into "OLLIE"

    is all i can say?

  • Feb 15, 2008 8:16 PM GMT
    Yes we can transform America. This transformation is absolutely essential and can't come soon enough for me! I wish the general election were being held tomorrow and the inauguration soon thereafter.
  • SkyMiles

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    Feb 15, 2008 10:48 PM GMT
    AAAAH-OOOOO! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 15, 2008 11:50 PM GMT
    Wishful thinking?

    I've seen that video and think the "Yes, we can" slogan a philosophy.

    Obama inspires me, Clinton does not.

    He gets my vote. (For other reasons too, btw)
  • tron

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    Feb 15, 2008 11:52 PM GMT
    That's the best valentine video message I could have got this week icon_smile.gif
    ok - truthfully a naughty strip-o-gram from Paradigm would have been one better! icon_twisted.gificon_lol.gif
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    Feb 15, 2008 11:52 PM GMT
    Have been kinda following this a little but not as keenly as you lot, have a question tho:

    whats Obamma's stance on Gay Marriages and equal rights
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    Feb 16, 2008 12:03 AM GMT
    B.O.'s stand on gay marriage and equal rights? Gay drinking fountains and straight drinking fountains.
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    Feb 16, 2008 12:05 AM GMT
    so its ok to have them just dont expect integration hmmmmm thats rich seeing his heritage!
  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Feb 16, 2008 2:04 AM GMT
    bfg1 saidHave been kinda following this a little but not as keenly as you lot, have a question tho:

    whats Obamma's stance on Gay Marriages and equal rights


    Obama's stance on gay rights is that he supports civil unions but not marriage. (Which could be better but its pretty much identical to Hilary's stance)

    But, Obama does something I haven't seen Hilary do. Obama consistently mentions gay people in almost every speech he gives. He talks about us not only in front of Logo or The Advocate, but in all the cities hes visits. Hes a true supporter throughout.

    If you watch this clip, its a great example of what Im talking about. (When he references 9/11). Coinciedntally this clip is a great one to watch for all of you cynics out there because he speaks directly to you.

    This is the last part of a speech he gave in Baltimore on Feb 11th, BEFORE his big wins in MD, DC, and VA.


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    Feb 16, 2008 2:07 AM GMT
    Obama's platform on GLBT issues:

    1) Repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell... The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve.

    2)Fully repeal DOMA and ensure full civil unions that give same-sex couples equal legal rights and privileges as married couples, including the right to assist their loved ones in times of emergency as well as equal health insurance, employment benefits, and property and adoption rights, and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions.

    3)Expand ENDA to include sexual orientation and gender identity.

    4)Oppose any Constitutional ban on same-sex marriages

    5)Expand Federal Hate Crimes laws to include crimes perpetrated because of sexual orientation or gender identity.

    The full platform is here, in downloadale PDF: http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/lgbt.pdf
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    Feb 16, 2008 2:16 AM GMT
    By the way... I spent several hours the other night checking out Hillary's website. I was looking for even a mention of the GLBT community, because we're very visible over at Obama's site... well, on the Clinton site, we're invisible. I could not find any mention of us or our issues anywhere... and I swear to you all that I looked diligently, because I wanted to find it.

    I don't care that she's a woman... I'd love to see a woman President... but I'm seeing the same old same old from her. She gives me no inspiration, no hope. Obama does.

    Another thing Obama is doing that no one else is... he's only accepting campaign contributions from individual private citizens. No huge donations from oil companies, private industries, major corporations, lobbyists, etc... like all the other candidates are doing. I like that... a lot.

    To the cynics, I understand your cynicism... I've been there myself these last 8 years... but no more. This is the kind of candidate I've been looking for since I started voting 27 years ago.

    YES WE CAN!
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    Feb 16, 2008 2:28 AM GMT
    YOU GO NATIVEDUDE!!!!
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    Feb 16, 2008 2:43 AM GMT
    GAY CITY NEWS, AMERICA'S LARGEST CIRCULATION LGBT NEWSPAPER, LOCATED AND SERVING NYC, ENDORSES OBAMA...

    Gay City News Endorsement
    January 31, 2008
    In a presidential inaugural address that inspired a teenager from Hope, Arkansas named Bill Clinton, John F. Kennedy famously urged Americans to focus not on what the country could do for them, but on what contributions they could make to the nation.

    Mind you, we in the LGBT community are not yet nearly at the point where this nation has made good on the contributions it owes to our lives, our families, our well-being, even our equal citizenship. Faced with the choice of two progressive Democrats who have spoken at length and with conviction about the challenges facing our lives, we still don't have the luxury of picking a candidate who will advocate for our right to marry. We must yet take it on faith that the next president will have the fortitude to insist that Congress - including too many stragglers within the Democratic Party - open up the nation's military to out gay and lesbian patriots. It is far from certain that the next time the Democratic Congress takes up an employment nondiscrimination measure it will include transgendered Americans as well as gay men and lesbians among those protected.

    But after seven years of George W. Bush, and compared against the prospect of either John McCain or Mitt Romney, Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama truly offer hope to LGBT Americans that help is on the way.

    Given that the two Democratic contenders share a similar, generally friendly and supportive posture toward LGBT Americans, we ought to think about the message our choice sends about a fundamental question - what our politics should be all about. We are finding our place here and there at the table, but we have also spent much of our life on the outside. The nation needs to hear our views on how American politics can accommodate new voices in the mix.

    Judged by that measure and taking full stock of how the Democratic nomination contest has unfolded, we believe the choice is clear.

    Gay City News endorses Barack Obama.

    The Illinois senator has spoken of a politics of hope and change, not surprisingly given a life that has included a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, a term as president of the Harvard Law Review and a job as a community organizer on the streets of Chicago.

    Obama is a relative newcomer to the national scene, and it is not unfair to ask that he explain as clearly as possible how his skills, experience, and vision qualify him for the toughest job on earth. He deserves kudos for his courage in standing up against the rush to war in Iraq at a time when conventional political wisdom counseled a would-be national figure to do otherwise. He will serve the nation well if he can articulate a comprehensive approach not only toward the mess in Iraq but also the broader and more explosive question of America's standing in the entire Islamic world.

    In his recent comments about what Ronald Reagan offered to Americans hungry for optimism and new ideas, Obama ought to have made more clear his understanding that at critical moments the hope for unity cannot substitute for hard choices. This newspaper was probably tougher on Obama than anyone else was for his ill-considered decision to call on Donnie McClurkin - a so-called "ex-gay" gospel singer vitriolic in his attacks on the LGBT community - to reach out to churchgoing African-American communities in South Carolina. We are counting on him to make wiser choices in future efforts to "build bridges" - and on that score applaud the loving words about his "gay brothers and sisters" Obama enunciated from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Atlanta pulpit last week.

    The McClurkin episode, unfortunate as it was, pales in comparison to the divisiveness that Senator Clinton has allowed her campaign to devolve into. Her comparison between the roles played by Dr. King and President Lyndon Johnson in advancing civil rights can be chalked up to inartfulness. The comments coming from her surrogates are far more disturbing, forming a pattern that sadly can no longer be ignored.

    Three Clintonites - the husband of former New Hampshire Governor Jeanne Shaheen, Black Entertainment Television founder Robert Johnson, and, most damningly, key strategist Mark Penn - all injected Obama's acknowledged youthful cocaine use into the debate. New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo inexplicably used the phrase "shuck and jive" in describing what a presidential candidate might try to pull with the media, and then had his operatives bombard the press with official umbrage that his words might be construed as targeting the African-American senator.

    Nobody, however, has been more egregious than Bill Clinton. In his ardent championing of his wife, the former president has dissed Obama as "a kid" and this past Saturday was quick to mention Jesse Jackson's 1984 and 1988 South Carolina primary wins to contextualize Obama's commanding victory.

    Notwithstanding the role of BET's Johnson and the ardent support for the New York senator from towering African-American members of Congress such as Charlie Rangel and Maxine Waters, the Clinton campaign's intent is clear - Barack Obama, after his strong showing with white voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, must be marginalized as the "black candidate," or Hillary runs the risk of losing.

    That is unacceptable, and the LGBT community should lend its voice to a growing progressive chorus in turning its back on this kind of politics. For us, winning in the ghetto is no longer good enough - not for blacks, not for gays, not for anyone.

    There is a great deal we admire about Hillary Clinton, and our conclusion about the direction of her campaign is arrived at with a heavy heart. Should she prevail in the nomination fight, we have hope that the better angels of her nature will come to the fore in the fall campaign.

    But at this moment we put our faith in the hope that remains undimmed. We urge a vote for Barack Obama.
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    Feb 16, 2008 3:23 AM GMT
    I voted for Obama in the primary but after hearing his wife speak..in Nazi propaganda style ..I am scared shitless. I don't think "the government" should ever be charged with changing peoples souls or minds for any reason. That is total fascism.
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    Feb 16, 2008 4:44 AM GMT
    Al Qaeda, China and Putin's new emerging Soviet Union will chew Obama (and us) up and spit us out like seeds.
    Perhaps there will be a day when a guy like Obama would be good for America, but not now. Hilary is no better than Obama.
    A strong national defense is the the only issue that matters. No other issue will ever come to fruition without it.