Hospital Denies Care to Transgender Woman

  • metta

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    Aug 03, 2010 2:32 AM GMT
    Central Indiana’s Ball Memorial Hospital Denies Care to Transgender Woman


    http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=25483

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  • Bunjamon

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    Aug 03, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    Despicable.
  • calibro

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    Aug 03, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    absolutely disgusting. you think people would've grown since tyra hunter.
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    Aug 03, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    So shamefully disgusting that it is difficult to believe!
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    Aug 03, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
    We've only heard one side of the story....
    Don't throw stones til' you at least hear both to make up an unbiased opinion.
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    Aug 03, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    Well, your not actually alowd to deny anyone emergency care for discriminatory reasons, by US law and by the Hippocratic oath
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    Aug 03, 2010 4:53 AM GMT
    amar_m saidWell, your not actually alowd to deny anyone emergency care for discriminatory reasons, by US law and by the Hippocratic oath

    That's right. No US hospital that uses public money-all but two hospitals in the US- can deny anyone emergency services.
    It is difficult to believe that it actually happened like the story says. It seems a bit exaggerated.
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    Aug 03, 2010 4:56 AM GMT
    Photo of Erin and her wife:
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    Erin’s Statement:

    I went to my doctor in Indianapolis for my regular hormone checkup. I told him I had been coughing up large amounts of blood. He asked me a bunch of questions and told me what it sounded like was a tumor (either cancerous or non cancerous) or possibly a granuloma.

    The doctor told me that without insurance, he couldn’t write test orders as they run in the thousands. I told him I was checking into insurance. My doctor said when I get health insurance, he will write orders for tests. He told me to call him if it gets worse, and / or go to the emergency room.

    A few days later, I awoke to more pain then usual in my chest. I had been having chronic pain, just not as much as that morning. I coughed up about a cup of blood total. Amanda and I decided to go to the emergency room at Ball Memorial Hospital.

    At the emergency room, we were told to approach the intake desk. I gave my information to two people. One person asked the questions and the other person was sitting next to her and appeared to be in training.

    When she got to the part about surgeries, I told her all the ones I had. She said, "Any more?"

    I said, “No.”

    She said, "Are you SURE you haven't had ANY other surgeries?"

    I said, “No.”

    They completed my registration. I saw that they had me listed as ‘Male.’ I corrected them. I pointed out my state ID says ‘Female.’ The lady in training sniggered. The one asking the questions just looked annoyed and left it as ‘Male.’

    She told the triage nurse to take my vitals. He stared at me for a couple of seconds and looked at the lady who did my intake. The triage nurse said, "Remember, paybacks suck!" I flashed an angry look at the triage nurse.

    He said, "Not you, I was talking about something from earlier."

    We sat in the waiting room for a bit, then we were called back and led to an exam room. We got more stares as we were going into the exam room.

    After awhile, a nurse came into the exam room. The nurse said they would probably want a urine specimen. She took me to the bathroom. I went into the bathroom and shut the door. I heard suppressed laughter and a comment about "good thing it's a unisex bathroom."

    I was trying to tell myself that things maybe were not as I was seeing them. I got back to the exam room. I found my partner angry and fighting back tears. I asked her what was wrong.

    She told me that while I was in the bathroom, people kept laughing and poking their heads into the exam room. Finally one nurse said, “So is 'it' a ‘he’ or a ‘she’ or a ‘he-she’?"


    So my partner says, “SHE is my WIFE! Not an ‘IT’!”


    The nurse replied with a chuckle, "Well, what do you want me to say? I can't tell, and until I know, ‘he’ is an ‘it’..." The nurse used “he” even though my partner said “she.”

    The nurse who took me to the bathroom came back into the exam room. She asked me a bunch of questions that were mostly about normal medical stuff.

    Then the nurse asked me, "How long have you been a transvestite?"


    I explained that I wasn't a transvestite. I explained Transsexuality 101 to her. Latter, I found out she had asked my partner the same thing about me being a transvestite.

    After about 2 hours, she came back with a coloring book and crayons for my son. A few minutes later, she came back to the exam room and started asking some strange questions such as:

    ”Can you afford to buy groceries every week?”

    “Do you ever feel overwhelmed?”

    “Do you ever think about suicide?”

    I got real mad. I tried not to show it and I said, “When am I going to see a doctor?”

    She then told me, “You have to have your doctor write orders for tests. They didn’t know how to treat someone in my condition.”

    I said, “I do not know what my condition is and that’s why I am here.”

    She said, “No, you're other condition - the transvestite thing.”

    I felt angry and I was embarrassed. I did my best to keep from crying so they wouldn’t see.

    I grabbed my son and we left.

    from: http://destrantalk.blogspot.com/2010/07/transsexual-woman-denied-emergency.html (I know not a proper news source, but oh well)


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    Aug 03, 2010 6:01 AM GMT
    That's awful, as I was reading I just couldn't believe it, they're despicable human beings (the workers and that doctor), but karma's a bitch!!!!
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    Aug 03, 2010 6:39 AM GMT
    I have known of hospitals too deny care to people because they where just to fat. Nurses are human too. Albeit this story does seem exaggerated.
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    Aug 03, 2010 6:58 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidPeople talk about the "friendly" Midwest. I personally have had some backwards similar experiences with people from Indiana or while I was there. The Midwest can be very provincial and downright mean toward people with alternative lifestyles.

    Those medical practitioners should be reported for harassment.

    It's all about the individuals, who can be good or bad from place to place. Certainly in this case it appears these people were unprofessional in the extreme. A story, with a different outcome:

    My late partner & I were living in North Dakota, a state that in 2004 passed one of the anti-gay marriage state constitutional amendments, as part of the Karl Rove strategy to get George Bush and other Republicans elected. So not a place you would expect to be very gay-friendly, and where gay couples have no recognition or rights whatsoever.

    My partner developed dementia literally overnight, due to PML. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_multifocal_leukoencephalopathy) I took him to a hospital ER in Fargo, incoherent & raving. The intake person asked me my relationship, and I replied domestic partner. She told me I could not accompany him into the treatment area.

    When they came for him, I simply went along, ignoring what I had been told. In the ER, I introduced myself to the doctor, and said I could give him the patient background, since my partner was just babbling, and seemed to think he was in a hospital in Texas, where he had previously lived for over 20 years.

    The doctor treated me as family, and showed me the brain CAT scan they initially did. It didn't look good, and they accepted my decision to have him admitted for further tests.

    For the next several days he went through all kinds of tests, and I was by his side at least 18 hours a day. The horror stories you hear about gay partners being barred from the hospital room did not happen with us. On the contrary, the doctors briefed me on what they were doing, and what they were finding, every step of the way. But then, when I use the Colonel's voice and demeanor, you just do what I say.

    But I knew that couldn't legally continue for very long. So I contacted the President of Equality North Dakota, who was a friend of ours, and asked him for an attorney who could petition to give me legal authority, since my partner & I had failed to properly plan for something like this. And he did. She was with the largest law firm in the State.

    I think it was the third day when his doctor told me the hospital was beginning to question my involvement. The very next day a court issued an emergency order, that made me his legal guardian, and thereafter there was no question of my authority. I believe it set a legal precedent in North Dakota, the first time a gay partner was so recognized. And I had done in a matter of days an action that normally took months.

    And as I sat by his bed all day, the nurses would come in, and ask me innocent questions about gay relationships. And I would answer them without animosity, hoping our example could enlighten them.

    And in all that time, and later in a nursing home where he finally died a month later, I never encountered any hostility, no prejudice, nothing that was negative to him or to me.

    So that I am inclined to believe that this incident in Indiana was an aberration, that medical professionals would rarely commit.
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    Aug 03, 2010 7:33 AM GMT
    devilish_intentions saidThat's awful, as I was reading I just couldn't believe it, they're despicable human beings (the workers and that doctor), but karma's a bitch!!!!


    I don't believe in karma. Just coincidences.
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    Aug 03, 2010 9:25 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidPeople talk about the "friendly" Midwest. I personally have had some backwards similar experiences with people from Indiana or while I was there. The Midwest can be very provincial and downright mean toward people with alternative lifestyles.

    Those medical practitioners should be reported for harassment.
    "Southern Hospitality" is an oxymoron.

    And those "medical practitioners" need some blood work done...the old fashioned way, with fists and knuckles. icon_twisted.gif