Prop 8 Decision Coming Tomorrow (Wed.)

  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 12:10 AM GMT
    Prop 8 Decision Coming Wed.


    http://www.towleroad.com/2010/08/proposition-8-decision-coming-tomorrow.html


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    Aug 04, 2010 12:45 AM GMT
    Yeah I just read about this. icon_confused.gif

    It's obvious that the marriage equality side had a stronger case, but you can never be too sure about these things. Although I am sure that they'll be a few traffic jams in Los Angeles regardless of the outcome. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:49 AM GMT
    I don't see how the defendants can win this case, their defense was pitiful. The stakes are really gonna go up when it hits the supreme court.

    As long as the SCOTUS applies the constitution fairly we should win. Unfortunately, that hasn't always been the case.
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    Aug 04, 2010 1:09 AM GMT
    sdgman said
    As long as the SCOTUS applies the constitution fairly we should win. Unfortunately, that hasn't always been the case.

    It's one of those dreamy ideals to think the U.S. Supreme Court justices are guided by principle and respect for the law.

    Unfortunately, the reality is otherwise. Most of the justices, on both the left and the right, view the cases through an ideological prism. Do you think there's any scenario where a justice like Scalia or Thomas would ever rule in favor of gay rights, no matter what the facts presented in the case are?

    It's inconceivable.

    If I bet $100 I might as well bet $100,000... there is ZERO chance Scalia, Thomas, or Alito will rule against Prop 8. ZERO. Mark my words. At the same time, I think there's no chance Ginsburg or Breyer will rule in favor.
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    Aug 04, 2010 1:53 AM GMT
    Global_Citizen said
    sdgman said
    As long as the SCOTUS applies the constitution fairly we should win. Unfortunately, that hasn't always been the case.

    It's one of those dreamy ideals to think the U.S. Supreme Court justices are guided by principle and respect for the law.

    Unfortunately, the reality is otherwise. Most of the justices, on both the left and the right, view the cases through an ideological prism. Do you think there's any scenario where a justice like Scalia or Thomas would ever rule in favor of gay rights, no matter what the facts presented in the case are?

    It's inconceivable.

    If I bet $100 I might as well bet $100,000... there is ZERO chance Scalia, Thomas, or Alito will rule against Prop 8. ZERO. Mark my words. At the same time, I think there's no chance Ginsburg or Breyer will rule in favor.


    That is part of why there is more than one Justice.
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    Aug 04, 2010 1:58 AM GMT
    In a time when most Americans were against racial equality, a decision by SCOTUS forced the country to treat one another fairly as dictated by the constitution. We have to hope that the same will be true again.
  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 3:52 PM GMT
    " The court has reported it will release its decision between 1 and 3 p.m. (Pacific Time). Text "EQUAL" to 69866 to get a text with the ruling the moment we have it."

    http://www.facebook.com/AmericanEqualRights
  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 5:50 PM GMT

    Prop. 8 supporters seek stay of federal judge's ruling before it's released today
    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_15675498?nclick_check=1

    http://digg.com/d31YtG1
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    Aug 04, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
    it same-sex marriage is made illegal in California then what will that mean for Massachusettes and Connecticut they both have same-sex marriage, Rhode island tried for it but it didnt pass through the Governors office and yet RI's Governor is gay
  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    bigkevc saidit same-sex marriage is made illegal in California then what will that mean for Massachusettes and Connecticut they both have same-sex marriage, Rhode island tried for it but it didnt pass through the Governors office and yet RI's Governor is gay


    It is currently illegal in California. This suit would overturn prop 8. However, it will be appealed which ever way the decision turns. Overturning prop 8 would be good for our side. I really don't see how it cannot go our way on the trial level. Will be good to see the details.

    Now...if there was just a way to get scalia's mind to not be so little. icon_confused.gif
  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 6:52 PM GMT
    A message from the other side:

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  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
    Perry v. Schwarzenegger plaintiffs Paul & Jeff discuss how they met, fell in love, and why marriage matters to them.

    http://digg.com/d31YtZR

    http://vimeo.com/13876731
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    Aug 04, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    Events Across The Country:
    http://wockner.blogspot.com/2010/08/prop-8-day-of-decision-rallies-etc.html
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    Aug 04, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
    metta8 saidEvents Across The Country:
    http://wockner.blogspot.com/2010/08/prop-8-day-of-decision-rallies-etc.html


    OOOH? I need some rally buddies... icon_neutral.gif
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    Aug 04, 2010 7:20 PM GMT
    bigkevc saidRhode island tried for it but it didnt pass through the Governors office and yet RI's Governor is gay


    No, he is not. He is a right-wing anti-gay Republican who has prayer meetings in the governer's mansion.
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    Aug 04, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    i thought he was oops,
  • metta

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    Aug 04, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    Rumor: many texts coming in from courthouse saying we won...just waiting for hard copy

    "several people texting that they are at the courthouse, and that judge walker has ruled in favor of preventing defendants from enforcing prop 8.texts are coming from members of courage campaign, and other gay groups.Unless this is NOMS biggest hoax ever, it would appear that we have won."
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:23 PM GMT
    metta8 saidRumor: many texts coming in from courthouse saying we won...just waiting for hard copy


    Why try to get our hope ups only to let us down. Wait for the real thing next time please. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:29 PM GMT
    I think we will win.
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:30 PM GMT
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/livenow?id=7592623#&cmp=twi-kgo-article-7592623

    Live
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    NY MAG:
    Judge Vaughn Walker Hands Victory to Proposition 8 Opponents
    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/judge_vaughn_walker_hands_vict.html
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
    WE WON!!!!!!
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
    WHAT! ARE U SURE!@?
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:45 PM GMT
    Holy shit!!


    JUDGE: Having considered the trial evidence and the arguments of counsel, the court pursuant to FRCP 52(a) finds that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional and that its enforcement must be enjoined!!!


    Obviously this will go to the supreme court but this is great news!!
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:48 PM GMT
    Here's the link to the transcript...

    http://www.towleroad.com/2010/08/judge-declares-proposition-8-unconstitutional.html#comments

    Good news indeed ...
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    Aug 04, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
    According to CNN: It's overturned!!!