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    Aug 04, 2010 10:31 AM GMT
    Wow... That's all I can say.




    wut do yall guys think ?
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    Aug 04, 2010 10:45 AM GMT
    If people where only willing to move away from the word marriage, there would be less resistance. marriage is a heterosexual institution, as I homosexual, I don't need it, or want to be apart of it. lets make something our very own like Civil Unions, where we can get all hoofed up.
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    Aug 04, 2010 10:47 AM GMT
    It's nothing but fringe idiocy. She's a loon, and the research she cites isn't research at all (in the true definition of the word).

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    Aug 04, 2010 10:48 AM GMT
    pattison saidIf people where only willing to move away from the word marriage, there would be less resistance. marriage is a heterosexual institution, as I homosexual, I don't need it, or want to be apart of it. lets make something our very own like Civil Unions, where we can get all hoofed up.


    And you really THINK that someone like this would step-aside and say
    Civil Unions? I'm OK with that? icon_confused.gif
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    Aug 04, 2010 10:55 AM GMT
    pattison saidIf people where only willing to move away from the word marriage, there would be less resistance. marriage is a heterosexual institution, as I homosexual, I don't need it, or want to be apart of it. lets make something our very own like Civil Unions, where we can get all hoofed up.


    Pattison, I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again today. You're an idiot.

    It's not about moving away from the word "marriage." In the U.S., a majority of Republican politicians and even a few Democrats have expressed their desire to keep civil unions from being equal to marriage.

    Here is an excerpt from a recent speech given by Hawaii governor, Linda Lingle. In this speech, she explains why she is against legalizing gay civil unions in Hawaii (this bill would have granted gay and lesbian couples the same rights and benefits the state provides to married couples) :

    "There has not been a bill I have contemplated more or an issue I have thought more deeply about during my eight years as governor than House Bill 444 and the institution of marriage," Lingle said at a news conference. "I have been open and consistent in my opposition to same-sex marriage, and find that House Bill 444 is essentially same-sex marriage by another name."

    So, Pattison, stop with the "this is simply an issues of semantics" argument, because it, like you, is full of hot air.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:06 PM GMT
    I wonder...when gays finally get "equal" rights in this country, will be able to go back and sue the fuck out of these idiots who keep sending purposely misinformed messages of hate just because they don't like us? Hell I'd like to see a group of militant gays get up on stage and beat the fuck out of her. Now THAT would be worth watching. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:13 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI wonder...when gays finally get "equal" rights in this country, will be able to go back and sue the fuck out of these idiots who keep sending purposely misinformed messages of hate just because they don't like us? Hell I'd like to see a group of militant gays get up on stage and beat the fuck out of her. Now THAT would be worth watching. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Aug 04, 2010 12:13 PM GMT
    The blood of gay and lesbien kids who kill themselves because of lies they hear growing up are on this woman's hands and anyone else who spouts this crap. I wouldn't shed a tear if she showed up dead.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:23 PM GMT
    GO GAY MARRIAGE!
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:28 PM GMT
    What is sad is that gays don't realize that people like this woman will never change their mind about gays. No amount of pandering to heterosexual ideals of normalcy will every change that.

    It does not matter whether we use another word for marriage, stop having gay pride parades, or dress and speak like masculine straight guys.

    These people create information to malign and attack gays simply because their small minds cannot wrap themselves around the concept of same sex people in a loving relationship.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:32 PM GMT
    amar_m said
    paulflexes saidI wonder...when gays finally get "equal" rights in this country, will be able to go back and sue the fuck out of these idiots who keep sending purposely misinformed messages of hate just because they don't like us? Hell I'd like to see a group of militant gays get up on stage and beat the fuck out of her. Now THAT would be worth watching. icon_biggrin.gif


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    I don't either. But I have no problem hitting hateful bitches.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
    creyente saidWhat is sad is that gays don't realize that people like this woman will never change their mind about gays. No amount of pandering to heterosexual ideals of normalcy will every change that.

    It does not matter whether we use another word for marriage, stop having gay pride parades, or dress and speak like masculine straight guys.

    These people create information to malign and attack gays simply because their small minds cannot wrap themselves around the concept of same sex people in a loving relationship.
    That's exactly why I recommend beating the fuck out of them. They're going to hate us and preach messages of death about us anyway, so we might as well stand up to them and beat them off the stage before they get their way and have deadly laws proposed against us.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:35 PM GMT
    Wow! Every time I read about stuff like this I thank my lucky stars I was born in South Africa, where we can get "married" and refer to our partners as "husbands". I know we are very backward when it comes to crime and corruption, but I have never felt threatened or unequal for being gay here. My thanks goes to all those LGBT'a who fought for the rights I enjoy today.

    Another thing I noticed: Before gay marriage was legalised there was much heated debate going on. Once it was legalised everyone just went quiet and let us get on with our lives and gay marriages. I hope you guys in the US and the EU will get full eqaul rights soon.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:50 PM GMT
    well i know when i have sex, the result is often spoiled peanut-butter
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:51 PM GMT
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    Wellllll.... I'm not quite there yet... but I have to say I am getting close.

    However, I would not mind participating in some of the '80's style ACT UP protests.


    paulflexes said
    creyente saidWhat is sad is that gays don't realize that people like this woman will never change their mind about gays. No amount of pandering to heterosexual ideals of normalcy will every change that.

    It does not matter whether we use another word for marriage, stop having gay pride parades, or dress and speak like masculine straight guys.

    These people create information to malign and attack gays simply because their small minds cannot wrap themselves around the concept of same sex people in a loving relationship.
    That's exactly why I recommend beating the fuck out of them. They're going to hate us and preach messages of death about us anyway, so we might as well stand up to them and beat them off the stage before they get their way and have deadly laws proposed against us.
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    Aug 04, 2010 12:54 PM GMT
    How do you get people like this to listen with open ears so they know the real truth? Hearing these people makes me literally sick to my stomach and numb.. let's duke it out like the old times. Civil War II.
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    beHoops23 saidHow do you get people like this to listen with open ears so they know the real truth? Hearing these people makes me literally sick to my stomach and numb.. let's duke it out like the old times. Civil War II.
    Exactly my sentiment. I have a feeling that if I went to one of those events, my mom would end up bailing me out of jail. But at least I'd be the hero in my cell block because the inmates love people who have the balls to stand up for themselves. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 04, 2010 2:57 PM GMT
    I usually agree with what you have to say, but I'm really not sure about this sentiment.

    Do you know how many in the LGBT community have been beaten up or killed by straights who used this same logic to fuel their hate?

    Why would we want to perpetuate this kind of thinking in our community? I am all for getting physical with someone who has put their hands on you, but beyond that violence only begets more violence. As much as it would feel good to kick their butts, it never solves anything and usually only makes things worse.



    paulflexes said
    beHoops23 saidHow do you get people like this to listen with open ears so they know the real truth? Hearing these people makes me literally sick to my stomach and numb.. let's duke it out like the old times. Civil War II.
    Exactly my sentiment. I have a feeling that if I went to one of those events, my mom would end up bailing me out of jail. But at least I'd be the hero in my cell block because the inmates love people who have the balls to stand up for themselves. icon_wink.gif
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    creyente saidI usually agree with what you have to say, but I'm really not sure about this sentiment.

    Do you know how many in the LGBT community have been beaten up or killed by straights who used this same logic to fuel their hate?

    Why would we want to perpetuate this kind of thinking in our community? I am all for getting physical with someone who has put their hands on you, but beyond that violence only begets more violence. As much as it would feel good to kick their butts, it never solves anything and usually only makes things worse.
    I've been beaten up by a couple "gangs" (groups) of straight guys for NOT standing my ground. The third time they attacked, they were greeted with a 12 gauge shotgun...and not as an unused deterrent, but with shots fired (nobody wounded, but they didn't come back, either, after a few holes in their truck). That was in the early-mid 90's.

    Since then I've gotten more assertive and defensive of my position. Now when I'm approached by someone stating they do not like gays, I let them know in no uncertain terms that I will kill them in self defense if that's what it takes to stand my ground. Being passive and "nice" is the fastest way to destruction, because they will use that against us.
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    Aug 04, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    I was never beaten up for being gay, but I did help someone who was getting beat up for being gay. That is one straight boy who will think twice about attacking gays. Sigh.. and yes it did feel good. icon_twisted.gif

    As I said, I have no problem with fighting when it is initiated by others. Also, letting someone know that you will protect yourself if needed is not a bad thing.

    However, I have a problem with becoming physical simply because someone says something I don't like, which is really what this woman did. There is nothing passive or nice about letting someone express their points of view. If that person is promoting violence against the gay community, then they would be inviting their own brand of medicine. Otherwise, people should have the right to safely express their opinions.

    I am not against getting violent when it is required. I simply wouldn't make it my first line of defense against someone I don't like.


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    creyente saidI usually agree with what you have to say, but I'm really not sure about this sentiment.

    Do you know how many in the LGBT community have been beaten up or killed by straights who used this same logic to fuel their hate?

    Why would we want to perpetuate this kind of thinking in our community? I am all for getting physical with someone who has put their hands on you, but beyond that violence only begets more violence. As much as it would feel good to kick their butts, it never solves anything and usually only makes things worse.
    I've been beaten up by a couple "gangs" (groups) of straight guys for NOT standing my ground. The third time they attacked, they were greeted with a 12 gauge shotgun...and not as an unused deterrent, but with shots fired (nobody wounded, but they didn't come back, either, after a few holes in their truck). That was in the early-mid 90's.

    Since then I've gotten more assertive and defensive of my position. Now when I'm approached by someone stating they do not like gays, I let them know in no uncertain terms that I will kill them in self defense if that's what it takes to stand my ground. Being passive and "nice" is the fastest way to destruction, because they will use that against us.
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    Aug 04, 2010 3:42 PM GMT
    Sometimes I think to myself how fantastic it would be to live in America. Where everything - esp. the poofs - is bigger and better.

    At other times, I think, no fucking way, bunch of loons! (Not you guys.)
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    amar_m said
    paulflexes saidI wonder...when gays finally get "equal" rights in this country, will be able to go back and sue the fuck out of these idiots who keep sending purposely misinformed messages of hate just because they don't like us? Hell I'd like to see a group of militant gays get up on stage and beat the fuck out of her. Now THAT would be worth watching. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Aug 04, 2010 5:42 PM GMT
    Wow, what a complete moron. There is no way she can think that anyone would actually believe what she is saying. Gays getting married means money for the states. Marriage certificates are not free! And you know most gays aren't going to just go get hitched at the office, they are going to spend money on parties with caterers and flowers and tux(possibly dress) rentals and so on. I'm not sure how this is bad. In fact i think it's just the stimulus the economy could use right now.
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    Aug 04, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
    creyente saidI was never beaten up for being gay, but I did help someone who was getting beat up for being gay. That is one straight boy who will think twice about attacking gays. Sigh.. and yes it did feel good. icon_twisted.gif

    As I said, I have no problem with fighting when it is initiated by others. Also, letting someone know that you will protect yourself if needed is not a bad thing.

    However, I have a problem with becoming physical simply because someone says something I don't like, which is really what this woman did. There is nothing passive or nice about letting someone express their points of view. If that person is promoting violence against the gay community, then they would be inviting their own brand of medicine. Otherwise, people should have the right to safely express their opinions.

    I am not against getting violent when it is required. I simply wouldn't make it my first line of defense against someone I don't like.
    Expressing their opinions is one thing, but blatant discrimination is another.
    I wouldn't mind if they said "we don't like it but we live and let live" but instead, they're sending the message that we are 2nd class citizens who don't deserve to be a part of this country. That type of message - even if not stated - implies that they would support killing gays if it were up for vote. That's why I take hate messages as death threats now.

    In addition, if messages such as this were preached against blacks, the speaker would be jailed and fined on the spot (if not beaten by the crowd first). It would be nice to see the same action taken against those preaching hate toward us.
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    Aug 04, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    not worth commenting on, there is no argument presented, its too bad she wasn't actually influential, she would make a great character for an SNL skit.