A Gay That Does Not Like Borkeback Mountain…WTF?

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    Feb 17, 2008 1:50 AM GMT
    I watched the movie and I thought it was really bad (not bad as in naughty, bad as in sucked). It seems like the awards and nominations were apologetic for the fact that if was about homosexuals. It was very predictable with the guy dying in the end. Of course he had to dye! I would not call myself a film critic in any way whatsoever. This is just my opinion. Bottom line is that I was not impressed with much of it.

    The question is simple…

    Is there another gay out there who does not like the movie Brokeback Mountainicon_question.gif

    I guess I am a bad gay.
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    Feb 17, 2008 1:56 AM GMT
    Nah, you're not bad. But I did like the movie. For one thing, I thought it was great storytelling -- simple yet powerful. The script and the performances were terrific.

    I also thought it spoke volumes about unrequited love and how the pressures of society turn so many of us into sheep -- and the cinematic references to that in the movie were no accident!
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    Feb 17, 2008 5:33 AM GMT
    your kinda mean, the part when heath(r.i.p) finds out that jake died made me cry and im not soft either.
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    Feb 17, 2008 6:27 AM GMT
    You're not bad...The movie was ok for me...I read the short story months before the movie came out so it lessened some of the emotional impact...was a notable movie nonetheless...my favourite scene was when Ennis held Jack's old shirt..such a tender and poignant moment...on another note, i read somewhere that they were going to turn The Frontrunner into a movie but i guess it never materialized...It was the very first gay novel I've read...made me believe that love exist between two gay men..
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    Feb 17, 2008 6:37 AM GMT
    i didn't like the movie either... i fell asleep half-way through it... though it's sad to think that closetedness is still rampant among gay guys in this day and ageicon_sad.gif
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    Feb 17, 2008 7:15 AM GMT
    I didn't watch the movie .. but after I saw the clips and trailers I think I'll watch it ... It seems like a good movie ..
    Maybe you don't like romantic movies ..or movies that are far away from the real world (overdose of fantasies can be sick too) ...icon_confused.gif
    but isn't it the aim of the movie , to take you to somwhere you can't reach in the real world??

    What concern me is that we're in 2008 and we still deal with the issue of two men in love and how the society would accept it..
    I hope the time to get into a deeper level isn't far ... (I mean ..in the straight love movies they don't focus just on the fact that the two are in love.. there are lot's of thing around and within)
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    Feb 17, 2008 9:03 AM GMT
    I've never seen it myself. Since I can't very well watch it on the living room DVD player. LOL I'll wait until I'm independent.
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    Feb 17, 2008 2:17 PM GMT
    I personally liked it, but whether y'all did or not, I feel it helped the gay community and broke down some stereotypes.
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    Feb 17, 2008 2:23 PM GMT
    I loved it - moreso because I could relate to the story.
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:02 PM GMT
    You dont like it because you are 20 years old and live in gay friendly United States (I assume because you dont mention the town you are from). If you are like me in my forties, living in a country where homosexuality is a crime punishable by law, gay men is call a sinner and homosexuality is consider a sickness of the morally corrupt Western country, where religious preacher conderm homosexuality as worst than animal.
    Where every men are expected to marry a women,where love between two men can only be carry out in secrecy, you will appreciated movie like Brokeback Mountains.

    Brokeback represent people like me. Force into the closet , unable to live the life as I wishes to. I can indentify with Jack and Ennis. I can never married the man I love, I cannot have a family and I have to behave straight at work. And just like Ennis I probably will be alone at the end of my life.

    Turn the clock back 80 years ago, imagine your self living in small city in the Midwest or Victorian England probably you have more understanding of the life I am living right now. Brokeback represent people like me, innocent victim who have to endure all the unfairness just because I was born the way I am.
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:09 PM GMT
    I really liked it, the acting was very good, the plot was believable (but depressing). It gives a pretty good backwards glance to today's gays about what it was like for our gay predecessors. Gays have progressed tremendously in the last 40 years in Western societies. Unfortunately that is not the case in many parts of the world.icon_cry.gif
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:11 PM GMT
    Never saw the movie so I can't comment on whether it is good nor not. I rarely go to movies because of the cost factor involved with popcorn and a soda. Not to mention the price of the ticket.

    BTW, you're not a 'bad gay' for not liking the movie.
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:14 PM GMT
    What color was he dyed? Is that part in the director's cut? ;-)

    Anyway, it was like a kick in the stomach and I usually don't go for those films. I also thought the movie was a bit overrated. Not the best dialog and quite manipulative. Still, in the grand scheme of movie things I basically liked it for the unique circumstances of their romantic relationship, and the setting. Plus it had significance for our community's progress with the straight world.

    Good enough for me. Just. But I'm not a very sophisticated moviegoer.

    No, you're probably not a bad gay. You're just one who, I hope, doesn't compromise your critical taste in film for a novelty and/or social statement. Just as long as there isn't some internalized homophobia going on here as well.
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:18 PM GMT
    Bad gay, bad gay, slapicon_twisted.gificon_lol.gif

    Ok, we have this scenario. There is this supposedly straight cowboy that is being hit upon by his roughneck cowboy buddy. One second he is fighting him off and the next second he is doing the roughneck up his arse. Hmmm! Do you think it would happen that fast in real life? They should have tried to develop that part so it would come off a little slower on the big screen.

    Otherwise, I thought the movie was really good. I especially liked the acting of all the actors even the minor ones.
  • Salubrious

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    Feb 17, 2008 3:36 PM GMT
    You're not a bad gay, you just have no taste in movies icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:48 PM GMT
    Did you like Crash, the movie that actually won the Academy Award for best picture that year? If so, maybe that's more your genre. Maybe tell us what gay themed movie you've seen that you do like.

    I liked Brokeback and Crash. The scene in Crash where Matt Dillon was rescuing the woman from the burning car was awesome and intense. But it didn't move me like the scene in Brokeback when Jack and Ennis meet up again for the first time after those few years. As they ran to each other, you could just feel their connection and excitement coming at you through the screen. Totally heartwarming. When a director can do that, THAT'S a good movie.
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    Feb 17, 2008 3:49 PM GMT
    I tend to agree with zakariahzol's assessment. Brokeback is, to me, metaphorical of a life half lived and the angst that goes along with it. It is one of the few "gay" movies that really "gets it" in terms of the inner turmoil many of us "old folks" endured back when being gay was tantamount to being a leper.

    The part of the movie that touched me most deeply was the ending (spoiler alert), where Ennis finds Jack's denim jacket, which still carries Jack's sent, and in a flash, all of Ennis' fond memories rush back in like a freight train. That was definitely a poignant scene, and it seemed like anyone who wasn't already tearing up was bawling by the end. From a purely directorial and theatrical standpoint, I believe that the filmmakers definitely hit their mark.

    That said, there were parts of the movie I thought were lame or unnecessary. Anne Hathaway's nude scene was irrelevant and gratuitous, and overall, I don't think she was well cast for this part. I did think Michelle William's character and acting were way overrated. Overall, though, I do believe that the film deserves all of the awards and accolades it received.
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:01 PM GMT
    I must confess I thought it was an ok movie and all that but not one Id want to sit down and watch over and over again.

    Breaking down stereotypes? It was like Village People and YMCA all over again! Aint nothing gayer than cowboys!!! OK they were real men not screaming queens but not really revolutionary in the breaking down stereotype camp. Forces and cowboys have buggered each other silly for centuries aint nothing new there.

    It was nice to see a mainstream gay love movie but a tad hyped in my books
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:01 PM GMT
    I thought it was good because I could really relate to the struggle of being in a relationship and following what society expected (instead of your heart). I went with my wife and I don't mind say, I cried. It really hit home. One of the turning points recently that inspired me to come out to her. Some very good scenes however I thought that it did start out very slow.
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:07 PM GMT
    I didn't like it either. It was so freakin' depressing. And honestly, the whole time everyone was feeling sorry for the two men in the film and I was like, "what about the wives?" They are the one's that get royally fucked over. I feel like the movie somehow condones the way they treat them because the two guy are gay. I felt the whole movie had an air of selfishness to it, which made their actions seem dreadfully misguided. I wasn't rooting for them at all. I found myself rooting for the wives. They're the ones who got the short end of the stick. I think it's awful.
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:09 PM GMT
    I guess gay romantic movies are not "my kind o' movies"

    Zakarihzol - I did not like the movie because I was not impressed with the acting, dialog, etc. I thought it was very predictable. I don't think the US accepts homosexuality to this day. The movie was just stating the obvious for me. That being gay back then was a major 'no no' and today it is not much better.

    Vtorso - I did enjoy Crash. I thought that had a good message about our society's obsession with race. I did not find a well portrayed message in BB Mt. like I did in Crash.
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:10 PM GMT
    You are definitely not a bad gay for not liking the movie. I think movies resonate with each person differently as a result of the experiences of their own lives. I hated Pulp Fiction but everyone else I know loved it.... go figure..

    I thought the movie was excellent but it did require you to go beyond what you were watching on the screen to the subtext of the movie. Though I was never closeted, I have known many people who have lived through this.

    Zyryx, I too wish they would make the Front Runner into a movie.... great book.
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:14 PM GMT
    I didn't hate it, but it's the usual gay film with a tragic ending. No tragedy=no crossover.

    It also exploits stereotypes of masculinity and, in my view, was very simplistic in its treatment of the wives.
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:20 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]creyente said[/cite] I hated Pulp Fiction but everyone else I know loved it.... go figure..

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    wahay the internet is great icon_lol.gif Im not alone I think Tarantino sucks! I have not seen him do one decent movie yet!!!!! There I have said it and I feel better already icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 17, 2008 4:40 PM GMT
    I didn't think it was bad, just WAY too long and kind of dull. The endless shots of scenery...that damn mountain...every time the director didn't know what else to do, he focused on yet another distance shot of Brokeback Mountain...yeah, it's craggy, and isolated, and another world altogether (like Shangri-La), WE GET IT. Can we move the story along, please?

    No? Then do you mind if I go out for popcorn just now?