Democrats give substantially less to charity

  • solak

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    Aug 05, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
    .. i've no problems if one wants to splurge on a jet plane, sexden, UWS pied-a-tierre, or Bottega Venata manclutch.. enjoy, no shame!

    just not a fan of hypocrisy, continually promoting one's ideals of "help for the poor, the students, the blacks, the gays, yadda yadda" when:

    "households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html

    why not just donate directly?

    maybe 'cause as the middlemen (public/gov't position) they prefer their 30-50% cut first "for their services" before the donation actually reaches its intended beneficiary?

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  • commoncoll

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    Aug 05, 2010 10:12 PM GMT
    Most charity services are done through church groups. More conservatives attend church and thus feel that they have to donate. Fewer liberals attend church-liberals are more likely to be minorities and thus may not have capability to donate.
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    Aug 05, 2010 10:16 PM GMT
    I donate directly to people when they need it and ask for help.
    That's much more effective than giving to an organization that takes 50% off the top to pay its board of directors.
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    Aug 05, 2010 10:21 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI donate directly to people when they need it and ask for help.
    That's much more effective than giving to an organization that takes 50% off the top to pay its board of directors.


    Or a government that bilks 90% of it. :/
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    Aug 05, 2010 10:23 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said

    Or a government that bilks 90% of it. :/


    shush now! don't you know massahh needs a fair wage for his "services provided."

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1048968

    taxes support the common good! i mean how can one man make a living of a mere $800,000 off the people's taxes..
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    Aug 05, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    paulflexes saidI donate directly to people when they need it and ask for help.
    That's much more effective than giving to an organization that takes 50% off the top to pay its board of directors.


    Or a government that bilks 90% of it. :/


    Really. 90%?
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    Aug 05, 2010 10:48 PM GMT
    It should also be known that many charities, specifically religious ones only help certain people.

    For instance, most Christian/Catholic charities choose not to help gays in many instances.

    And when they go over seas they push their religion on others in exchange for help.
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    Aug 05, 2010 11:03 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidIt should also be known that many charities, specifically religious ones only help certain people.

    For instance, most Christian/Catholic charities choose not to help gays in many instances.

    And when they go over seas they push their religion on others in exchange for help.


    Great point.
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    Aug 05, 2010 11:27 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidIt should also be known that many charities, specifically religious ones only help certain people.

    For instance, most Christian/Catholic charities choose not to help gays in many instances.

    And when they go over seas they push their religion on others in exchange for help.


    Meanwhile the priests are having a fling with the hairless ones
  • solak

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    Aug 05, 2010 11:35 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidonly help certain people.


    kinda like how a certain party returns the favor only to a CHOSEN portion of its herd..

    http://article.nationalreview.com/267022/the-dems-black-doormats/deroy-murdock

    does it hurt any less if ya pretend all really is equal after decades of marketing?

    ..even in the broader text, let alone within the gay community itself?

    "not into blacks," it's a preferenceicon_cool.gif

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    Aug 05, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
    I would also like to point out that while Democrats may give less to charity, go to any place with volunteers. The majority are a mix of liberals of all ages, especially gay organizations.
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    Aug 06, 2010 12:00 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI donate directly to people when they need it and ask for help.
    That's much more effective than giving to an organization that takes 50% off the top to pay its board of directors.


    Nonprofits do not pay their boards of directors. They may, in rare instances, reimburse them for travel or lodging related to their activities, but most board members pay for it themselves.
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    Aug 06, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
    commoncoll saidMost charity services are done through church groups. More conservatives attend church and thus feel that they have to donate. Fewer liberals attend church-liberals are more likely to be minorities and thus may not have capability to donate.


    I think this is probably the cause. It also must be remembered that the wealthy are disproportionately registered as Republicans, so that may skew the results.
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    Aug 06, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    commoncoll saidMost charity services are done through church groups. More conservatives attend church and thus feel that they have to donate. Fewer liberals attend church-liberals are more likely to be minorities and thus may not have capability to donate.


    I think this is probably the cause. It also must be remembered that the wealthy are disproportionately registered as Republicans, so that may skew the results.


    The richest people are democrats though. It's the upper middle class and upper class (the ones that feel the strain from taxes) that are mostly republicans but virtually all the super rich and billionaires are democrats.
  • solak

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    Aug 06, 2010 12:28 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    The richest people are democrats though. It's the upper middle class and upper class (the ones that feel the strain from taxes) that are mostly republicans but virtually all the super rich and billionaires are democrats.


    ya don't say????

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    but i thought all those rich meanies on Wall Street were Republicans??
    that's what the [skewed] media tells us.

    oh sweet Paradox.
  • commoncoll

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    Aug 06, 2010 12:31 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Christian73 said
    commoncoll saidMost charity services are done through church groups. More conservatives attend church and thus feel that they have to donate. Fewer liberals attend church-liberals are more likely to be minorities and thus may not have capability to donate.


    I think this is probably the cause. It also must be remembered that the wealthy are disproportionately registered as Republicans, so that may skew the results.


    The richest people are democrats though. It's the upper middle class and upper class (the ones that feel the strain from taxes) that are mostly republicans but virtually all the super rich and billionaires are democrats.

    Here in Texas, oil is big. That is what funds our hospitals, our Relays for Life, our schools, our parks, our parades, our hurricane funds, our State Congress. All Republicans. That is also the case along the whole Gulf Coast-from Florida to Texas.
    In certain regions it is the Democrats, but I remember reading that the Red Cross received most of its donations from the average middle class and not the super rich Democratic billionaires and their companies-however, their they do make up a good portion of donations. So in the South and the Midwest, it is the Republicans, as most of the charities are church sponsored.
    Someone made a very good point about the charities being selective minority groups. The government welfare programs do not, for the most part.
    While I realise I have no evidence to support it, 90% is a dubiously high number.
  • solak

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    Aug 06, 2010 12:39 AM GMT
    who do the "rich" oil Republican CEOs' answer to and impress? Wall street firms, in hopes of boosting analyst's recco's to inflate shareholder confidence, and thus the company's market cap...

    Republican oil CEO makes what... $10-$30 mill?? not bad...

    how about the Democrat Wall St honcho he wines to get a buy rating for his firm?? probly add another zero or 2 (ie $100 million +++++)

    yet, throughout the country (who don't live east of the Hudson River)...

    ...many still associate the "Rich and Greedy" as being the Republican party, when numbers show otherwise.