Six pack while trying to gain?

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    Jun 04, 2007 7:08 PM GMT
    Hi everyone :)

    I got such great advice last time I posted, that I am going to try it again! Sorry if the question is dumb!!

    So my goals are to gain weight, which I'm doing, but during the process I've noticed that my stomach hasn't gotten any better looking at all! I do abs at the end of every workout- and it isn't just some little cool-down type thing I do at the end, I dedicate several exercises with several sets.

    Is it feasable to see my stomach go towards that of a six pack (I don't expect it to magically happen overnight, but it's been 5 months and it looks a little jelly belly-ish) while trying to gain?

    Part of me thinks that I should be seeing a 6 pack begin to form, but then the other part of me thinks that it won't appear that way because I'm intaking so much food to gain muscle with.

    I've looked around the web and haven't really found anything conclusive (maybe I've been looking in all the wrong places), so does anyone have any ideas for me?

    Thanks a bunch! :)
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    Jun 04, 2007 7:43 PM GMT
    Describing your stomach as "jelly belly-ish" sounds to me like the definition of your abs is hidden by body fat.
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    Jun 05, 2007 3:17 AM GMT
    yeah. don't worry too much about it until you get to your cutting phase.
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    Jun 05, 2007 6:38 AM GMT
    You need to continue your abdominal exercises regardless. You are building strong core muscles as you do this, even if you can't see them yet.
    Once you have bulked up and reached your goal weight, you will then need to ramp up your cardio and enforce a fairly strict diet in the cutting stage, where you will drop body fat % and become leaner. This doesn't necessarily mean dropping weight as such, it means dropping body fat, which will reveal your abdominal section that you have worked so hard on.
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    Jun 10, 2007 10:49 AM GMT
    six pack abs is all basically about eating rather than exercises themselves
    if you're trying to Gain it's going to be somewhat harder to keep them than if you were maintaining or cutting
    but if you keep a good healthy balanced diet and workout with weights and do a fair amt of cardio weekly you might get there
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    Jun 10, 2007 11:16 AM GMT
    It's not a dumb question - although I think you need to understand that there's a huge variation in what is a "normal" response to exercise & nutrition, and what is true for one person is not always true for another.

    Most authorities that I trust suggest that 12% body fat is about as lean as you can manage if you're serious about muscle gain. Some people have to go a lot (A LOT) higher.

    Whether you can maintain anything like a six pack and still be anabolic is determined substantially by your genetics - whether you tend to carry a lot of body fat, and where you carry it.

    In short, if you were going to be a gainer and have abs simultaneously, you'd already know it and be doing it.

    I'm somewhat behind Owl's comment, with one caveat: don't let the body fat go TOO high, as losing body fat invariable involves the loss of lean mass as well.

    To optimize your nutritional intake, you need to have an accurate body fat assessment done. Your caloric demands are based on your LEAN mass, not your total weight.

    J.
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    Aug 28, 2007 3:27 AM GMT
    BigJoey,

    I'm currently sitting at 104kg and around 80kg of that is lean muscle. I managed to go from 116kg to 104 and lost only 1kg of lean muscle mass.

    I agree fully with what you're saying there - I've slowed down on the fat reduction now and I'm reverting back to periodised resistance training for increased growth and definition.

    When you say some people go a "lot" higher, what percentages are you talking?