Swap Images in Adobe Fireworks and Dreamweaver to notepad?

  • TR_Latitude10

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    Aug 06, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    OK…so a long time ago, I had a professional website developer create a site for us. He’s no longer available, so a graphic designer and I added two new sections on our own.

    The problem is adding these two new sections to the navigation bar at the top of all the pages. We did a bunch of research and hand edited the HTML page in notepad to make the new sections appear.

    This solution works, kind-of, mostly. You can navigate to the new sections, but the mouse overs don’t work properly for the new sections.

    I googled the function calls and see that they belong to something called Fireworks. My graphic designer is a newb to Dreamweaver, but now he is gone. So the only tool I have now is notepad. (egads!)

    Question: Can I continue modifying the pages in notepad, or do I have to find someone else who has Dreamweaver to do this?

    BTW - The site was developed 7 years ago and this is the first overhaul we've done. So I don't wish to invest in expensive software that I'll use just once.

    Thanks for any advice...You can email me directly if you want.
    Todd
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    Aug 06, 2010 3:37 AM GMT
    Dreamweaver is just a glorified text editor. Notepad is a basic text editor. You should be fine with just Notepad.

    Maybe we can help though. What's the website's URL? Are the rollovers something that HAVE to use graphics? Or is it simply a background color change of some sort?
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    Aug 06, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    I'm seriously not meaning to insult you at all--but I'm a professional web designer, and your post shows that you guys clearly have no idea how websites work. Find someone who knows HTML who can help you out. Either that, or spend some time learning HTML yourself. This isn't a simple answer.
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    Aug 06, 2010 4:26 AM GMT
    Skotlake saidI'm seriously not meaning to insult you at all--but I'm a professional web designer, and your post shows that you guys clearly have no idea how websites work. Find someone who knows HTML who can help you out. Either that, or spend some time learning HTML yourself. This isn't a simple answer.


    ^This.

    DreamWeaver is a glorified text editor? Not.

    Unless you think a BMW is a glorified Red Ryder Wagon.
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    Aug 06, 2010 4:41 AM GMT
    Dreamweaver's a piece of shit. It allows people with zero knowledge of internet technology to create astronomically messy sites that only people with knowlege of internet technology can clean up.

    Find yourself someone with half a brain who can hand code your HTML and CSS so you can get a decent site, otherwise, you'll end up spending a great deal of time figuring out how it all works and not have much to show for it.

    Edit >> Check out Notepad++, it at least gives you syntax highlighting so it's easier on the eyes.
  • TR_Latitude10

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    Aug 06, 2010 5:11 AM GMT
    I have hand-coded what is necessary. If you read my post more carefully, you'll see that I have accomlished "BY HAND" in notepad what most people don't have the patience to do. The only issue I have with the existing code is the MouseOver doesn't work as expected for the 2 new additions to the navigation. The site just needs a small tweak. Don't make a mountain out of a molehile.

    My post was to see if someone knew a workaround or simple step that I was missing. Thanks Pyro for the offer and to Flex for the idea to use a better text editor.

    On my way home tonight, I think I figured out how to get this to work the way I intend. If it doesn't work, I'll let the forum know. Basically, just one of the pages behaves as I want, so I'll do a file compare to see what the text differences are between the one that works and all the others.

    Thanks again...I knew my RJ peeps would represent!
    Todd
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    Aug 06, 2010 5:12 AM GMT
    Just hire someone to re-do your site. Patching it up and hoping things will work, is just bad. You've already indicated that your code additions don't work properly. Your site is 7 years old. It's due for an overhaul anyways.
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    Aug 06, 2010 5:53 AM GMT
    ... what is yoursite's URL, many of us can just look at your source code and help you/give you a quick fix if you are just trying to expand your mouseovers; looking at your source code will help us a lot more ...

    Btw, dreamweaver has a "code view" option that I use all the time; there really isn't a need for me (or other designer / developers to use the design view)
  • TR_Latitude10

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    Aug 06, 2010 5:56 AM GMT
    I'm perfectly happy with our design and message. It broadcasts the message I want to project and attracts the clientele that would most likely appreciate what we have to offer. Web design and marketing message must be coherent. Just because something is "old" does not mean that it isn't effective.
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    Aug 06, 2010 6:20 AM GMT
    TR_Latitude10 saidI'm perfectly happy with our design and message. It broadcasts the message I want to project and attracts the clientele that would most likely appreciate what we have to offer. Web design and marketing message must be coherent. Just because something is "old" does not mean that it isn't effective.


    Most banks still run on COBOL written back in the 70's, of course ;)
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    Aug 06, 2010 6:30 AM GMT
    Flex...so true...so true...
    My first tech job was was working with a HLLAPI screen scrape tool to create imports for dBase III files for my accounting dept. To get to the COBOL source code was verboten..."too dangerous"

    Again, thanks to all so far for the input...
    Todd
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    Aug 06, 2010 7:57 AM GMT
    Dreamweaver is a a very nice tool, it can be used by professional web designers and beginners. It accelerates the development process. Dreamweaver features code validation tools, real time rendering of your layout, FTP client, and hosting configurations, compatibility with Fireworks and Flash and so on. The difference is that professionals actually look at the code Dreamweaver is generating and make corrections or remove what's not necessary. This is like PHP just because u can make it messy doesn't mean ur tool is a mess, it's u and only u.


    PS: other recommendations: Nusphere.
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    Aug 06, 2010 1:09 PM GMT
    Unless you are going to take the time to really learn the code in order to manage your site on your own, I think it is a bad idea for you to edit code you don't understand in order to add functionality.

    Assuming this is a business site of some sort and that this site is used to market your business, you should really try to keep it as professional looking as possible. Not to mention the fact that you can unknowingly damage some of the functionality of the site. You don't mention the purpose or complexity of the site in your post.

    I personally will not do business with a company that has an unprofessional looking or poorly functioning site. The business loses credibility if the site is not built well. It makes me think that they do not take their business seriously.

    Having said that, you don't need Dreamweaver to fix the issue. Notepad++ (suggested above) is free and slightly better than just using Notepad. Both can accomplish what you need to do. Dreamweaver is a good product but is often improperly used by individuals who don't want to take the time to learn the underlying code and good web design practices.

    If indeed the issue is with Fireworks, you can find information about this product on the Adobe site, including a troubleshooting guide. However, if you don't own Fireworks you may have a problem fixing the issue, I can't be sure since we don't know what the problems is yet.

    In the long run, if you consider the expense of your time in trying to fix your site, you may be better off simply speaking with a web designer to see what it would cost to make your changes. However, if the site is not of any great importance to you then making the fixes on your own is certainly more understandable.

    Good luck!



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    Aug 07, 2010 2:35 AM GMT
    TR_Latitude10 saidI'm perfectly happy with our design and message. It broadcasts the message I want to project and attracts the clientele that would most likely appreciate what we have to offer. Web design and marketing message must be coherent. Just because something is "old" does not mean that it isn't effective.

    I probably should have rephrased my previous statement. Your website should be overhauled so that it's easier for you to maintain/update by yourself from this point forward. I mean, a special Fireworks function for a navigation menu? Really? That seems like overkill. And who really uses Fireworks for web design? No one.

    I bet your site can be re-coded in nothing but HTML and CSS. Not only will it load faster, but it will be easier for you to modify in the future. No special/expensive software needed.