Healthcare Update I Received!!!

  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Aug 06, 2010 8:05 AM GMT
    The owner of the company I work for recently posted a rant on our company website. I work for a fast food franchisee, who has 25 stores, which generate around $2,000,000.00 in net sales monthly.

    I won't get into specifics, but but it was regarding a discovery that the company would have to pay approximately $198,000.00/year (a 27% increase)more for employee health insurance and would have to offer insurance to employees who work more than 25 hours per week, on average. Currently, only managment are offered healthcare. She suggested that we should realize the plight of "small businesses" in our upcoming election.

    By my calculations, this will cost each store less than $8000.00, on average, but it will actually be more skewed than that, based on the particular store's sales volume/employee levels. Not to mention the fact, that only about 10-20% of any store's staff acutally average more than 25 hours/week, so the $198,000.00 increase is most likely an over estimate.

    She says she is interrested in our thoughts, though I'm not sure she really wants to hear what I have to say.

    Thoughts?
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    Aug 06, 2010 8:45 AM GMT
    Reply anonymously?

    Update: Also, just knowing top line revenue doesn't paint a full picture. What's the average net after tax profit per month based on that US$2M figure?

    If it's anything near or over 20% of Gross Margin, I'd say that she was an avaricious, cunt who probably cares nothing for anyone other than herself.

    I am going to venture a guess that there is no "Corporate Social Responsibility" program either.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 06, 2010 10:28 AM GMT
    That was a warning to you all .....

    It was put out there to say - get behind me on this and tout the corporate line or you'll more than likely be sacked

    Try speaking out against her rant and see what happens icon_neutral.gif
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    Aug 06, 2010 11:16 AM GMT
    You should post a blind response (use hidemyass.com or a comparable Web proxy service) and enlighten her.

    The company I work for generates close to $1B in revenue, and according to my CEO, the co's rates are increasing by less than 5%. We offer healthcare coverage to all of our full-time employees and their families/domestic partners, so I can understand why we wouldn't be paying as much as, say, a company that hasn't historically offered healthcare coverage to the bulk of its employees. If that's the case, then a 27% increase is completely understandable, since your lovely CEO probably wasn't paying out that much to begin with.
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    Aug 06, 2010 12:12 PM GMT
    I'm wondering what a customer's law suit amount could be if a contagious employee stayed on to work because he/she didn't have health insurance.
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Aug 06, 2010 12:54 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidReply anonymously?

    Update: Also, just knowing top line revenue doesn't paint a full picture. What's the average net after tax profit per month based on that US$2M figure?

    If it's anything near or over 20% of Gross Margin, I'd say that she was an avaricious, cunt who probably cares nothing for anyone other than herself.

    I am going to venture a guess that there is no "Corporate Social Responsibility" program either.

    Actually, I'm not sure. I havn't been in the management circle very long, but I have been assuming it is at or about 20%. I'll have to look into that.
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    Aug 06, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
    Why do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?
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    Aug 06, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWhy do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?


    I don't want to pay for your mother's retirement or health care either, how's that?

    Oh, wait a minute, I do.
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Aug 06, 2010 3:28 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWhy do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?

    I pay for my own health care, but several people that I employ work their asses off, going above and beyond for my company. With the wages they earn, paying for health care by themselves is impossible. When employees are sick, I can't even ask for a doctors excuse, because they can't afford to go to see a doctor. They are loyal to the company, so why should the company be loyal to them. Is a little more than $200.00 per employee per year (employees that qualify) really too much to ask?

    EDIT: We, as American citizens, have a responsibility to aid those less fortunate than us. My company gives away tons of cash to charities. Does charity not begin at home?
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    Aug 06, 2010 3:36 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWhy do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?
    Fast food employees don't even make enough money to pay bills, much less health insurance.
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    Aug 06, 2010 3:37 PM GMT
    BeingThePhoenix saidThe owner of the company I work for recently posted a rant on our company website. I work for a fast food franchisee, who has 25 stores, which generate around $2,000,000.00 in net sales monthly.

    I won't get into specifics, but but it was regarding a discovery that the company would have to pay approximately $198,000.00/year (a 27% increase)more for employee health insurance and would have to offer insurance to employees who work more than 25 hours per week, on average. Currently, only managment are offered healthcare. She suggested that we should realize the plight of "small businesses" in our upcoming election.

    By my calculations, this will cost each store less than $8000.00, on average, but it will actually be more skewed than that, based on the particular store's sales volume/employee levels. Not to mention the fact, that only about 10-20% of any store's staff acutally average more than 25 hours/week, so the $198,000.00 increase is most likely an over estimate.

    She says she is interrested in our thoughts, though I'm not sure she really wants to hear what I have to say.

    Thoughts?

    Maybe anonymously present your numbers and ask that they critique them and possibly reply publicly. It may be the case that you're not seeing the whole picture.
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    Aug 06, 2010 3:38 PM GMT
    Regardless of how you feel about healthcare reform, tread lightly here. Your employer has asked a loaded question equivalent to "Does my ass look fat in these jeans?" She's looking for supporters to advance her political agenda. She is not looking for opposing points of view.

    Just some food for thought. I had a client ask my opionion on healthcare reform while the initial debate was going on. After I spoke in support of health care reform, the client filed a baseless complaint against me to have me fired. After three months of providing documentation supporting my case, the complaint was finally thrown out- thank god.

    Healthcare reform is a hot button issue that people take very personally and get extremely emotional about. My recommendation to you is protect your job regardless of how you feel about the issue.
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Aug 06, 2010 3:56 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    BeingThePhoenix saidThe owner of the company I work for recently posted a rant on our company website. I work for a fast food franchisee, who has 25 stores, which generate around $2,000,000.00 in net sales monthly.

    I won't get into specifics, but but it was regarding a discovery that the company would have to pay approximately $198,000.00/year (a 27% increase)more for employee health insurance and would have to offer insurance to employees who work more than 25 hours per week, on average. Currently, only managment are offered healthcare. She suggested that we should realize the plight of "small businesses" in our upcoming election.

    By my calculations, this will cost each store less than $8000.00, on average, but it will actually be more skewed than that, based on the particular store's sales volume/employee levels. Not to mention the fact, that only about 10-20% of any store's staff acutally average more than 25 hours/week, so the $198,000.00 increase is most likely an over estimate.

    She says she is interrested in our thoughts, though I'm not sure she really wants to hear what I have to say.

    Thoughts?

    Maybe anonymously present your numbers and ask that they critique them and possibly reply publicly. It may be the case that you're not seeing the whole picture.

    That is possible, and I had considered that, but I'm not sure how to present my case anonymously. I am one of just a few who vote Dem., I have already walked out on a manager meeting that had a preacher come in and start praising God for blessing our company, and I have already been complimented by my boss for my "distinctive writing style" (whatever that means).
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Aug 06, 2010 4:01 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidRegardless of how you feel about healthcare reform, tread lightly here. Your employer has asked a loaded question equivalent to "Does my ass look fat in these jeans?" She's looking for supporters to advance her political agenda. She is not looking for opposing points of view.

    Just some food for thought. I had a client ask my opionion on healthcare reform while the initial debate was going on. After I spoke in support of health care reform, the client filed a baseless complaint against me to have me fired. After three months of providing documentation supporting my case, the complaint was finally thrown out- thank god.

    Healthcare reform is a hot button issue that people take very personally and get extremely emotional about. My recommendation to you is protect your job regardless of how you feel about the issue.

    Good call. I think I'll follow your advice, unless I am asked directly. I'll soon be starting my own business and depending on a few factors, will likely stay on until my business gets off the ground. Best not rock the boat just yet.
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Aug 06, 2010 4:04 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    BeingThePhoenix said
    EDIT: We, as American citizens, have a responsibility to aid those less fortunate than us. My company gives away tons of cash to charities. Does charity not begin at home?

    The government taking your money in the form of higher taxes and concocting centrally planned nationalized health care schemes is definitely NOT the way to go, but what we are seeing here in the OP is the result.



    You may be right, but it's all we have for now. Both sides of the aisle agree that we need healthcare reform, but until now neither side has made any action. Maybe this will prompt some Republicans to come up with something better.
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    Aug 07, 2010 1:26 AM GMT
    I would tell her that her company is not a "SMALL" business
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    Aug 07, 2010 2:37 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    BeingThePhoenix said
    EDIT: We, as American citizens, have a responsibility to aid those less fortunate than us. My company gives away tons of cash to charities. Does charity not begin at home?

    The government taking your money in the form of higher taxes and concocting centrally planned nationalized health care schemes is definitely NOT the way to go, but what we are seeing here in the OP is the result.

    What you wish, as we have always seen here, is that the workers be enslaved and be without any benefits whatsoever. OK, I understand your antebellum plantation slavery mentality.

    But we don't really know what this employer will have to do. This is what SHE claims. If she is a Republican and FOX News watcher, and worse yet a Teabagger, we can be assured she is making this all up.

    I would advise you not to rush to the barricades yet. Or if you must, do fall onto your own sharpened spikes. You must realize you have no credibility here.

    But you do provide a kind of entertainment. And a cautionary lesson in what our enemies will try against us gays. So that we can recognize their attacks when they try them.
  • Celticmusl

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    Aug 07, 2010 2:57 AM GMT
    It was a good thread until the fucktarded post with the word "republican" and made it all about being republican/democrat. Talk about parrot, lol.

    This thread is officially dead.
  • Webster666

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    Aug 07, 2010 4:09 AM GMT
    Most businesses in America have turned into greedy slave shops, where lower management gets big bonuses for making the workers produce more in less time. And, it's never enough to make upper management happy. While they're making obscene profits, the actual workers are barely surviving on poverty level wages, with no benefits.

    If I were in your place, I would send an anonymous letter (NOT an email !) to the owner of the company saying exactly what you said here. I would also say that I agreed with our President that all Americans deserve to have health care, and that I planned to vote Democratic in the next election.
  • Webster666

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    Aug 07, 2010 4:16 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWhy do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?



    --Just who do you think pays for Medicare for all the retirees in your family ?
    Perhaps you should contact each of them and tell them to cancel their coverage because they should be paying for their own health care.

    --And, how about the disabled ?
    How in the hell do you expect them to pay for their own healthcare ?

    --Then, there are all the people in prisons.
    Do you actually think they're paying for their healthcare ?

    --Your REPUBLICAN and Democratic legislators (local and state and national ) ? Do you think that they pay for their own healthcare ?

  • Webster666

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    Aug 07, 2010 4:20 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Alpha13 saidWhy do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?


    Good post. Thanks for breaking up the monotony of "those evil companies should be paying more..." posts so far.

    Hey all you liberal parrots... I was under the impression that Obamacare was going to result in reduced healthcare costs. icon_rolleyes.gif




    If you REPUBLICANS had not deep sixed the Public Option, competition would have automatically reduced healthcare costs for all of us. But, you're in bed with the private insurance companies. So, expect to pay more and more. Even old guys like you will be paying a bigger share of your medicare. Thanks, REPUBLICANS !
  • Celticmusl

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    Aug 07, 2010 2:21 PM GMT
    Webster666 said
    Alpha13 saidWhy do you think someone else should be responsible for your health care ? What other aspects of your life do you not want to be responsible for?



    --Just who do you think pays for Medicare for all the retirees in your family ?
    Perhaps you should contact each of them and tell them to cancel their coverage because they should be paying for their own health care.

    --And, how about the disabled ?
    How in the hell do you expect them to pay for their own healthcare ?

    --Then, there are all the people in prisons.
    Do you actually think they're paying for their healthcare ?

    --Your REPUBLICAN and Democratic legislators (local and state and national ) ? Do you think that they pay for their own healthcare ?



    Hey, why don't I just operate on myself while I'm at it.

    Also, why is it that the Republicans want the U.S. to be the only industrialized country that doesn't give a fuck about it's citizens?