Trolls: All You Ever Needed (or Wanted) to Know! by a troll

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    Aug 09, 2010 4:45 AM GMT
    First off, let me preface this by saying I'm an internet troll and I've been involved in trolling-related activities since I was 17.

    What is a troll? Trolls come in many forms. Some are plastic with oddly-colored hair, others are overweight and dwell under bridges, and the rest are widely believed to be overweight and dwell in their parents' basements. This will address common misconceptions about trolls, what drives trolls, and how to deal with them.

    Trolls are driven by the desire to make lulz, or corrupted LOLs. For those living in the 1980s, LOL stands for laugh out loud, and lulz are thus corrupted laughs - lulz come from finding humor in others' suffering. A troll's job is to milk lulz from "lulz-cows," or people targeted by the troll. The troll normally goes about this task a variety of ways, ranging from posting spiteful or inflammatory messages (flaming) on forums, distracting discussions, and spamming forums with gruesome images to blackmail and hacking.

    In order to generate the most lulz, a troll will often try to turn forum users against one another, or attempt to infuriate a large number of people - a common tactic used against animal rights groups is the flooding of videos that depict animals being slaughtered. The troll will continue to terrorize and torment the group until the lulz run dry. Often times, the troll's behavior will drive members from the group, causing the group to dissolve. Trolls cherish these victories as epic sources of lulz, since the scale of damage they caused is obviously much larger.

    How can a troll tell if he or she is successful? A troll's success can be measured by the amount of butthurt produced. Butthurt is defined as the amount of whining, complaining, and emotionally-charged reaction to the troll's behavior. Butthurt can range from angry emoticons to page-long rants in which lulz-cows pour out their souls in a desperate attempt to get the troll to pity them. Trolls largely prefer seeing the latter, knowing they have brought significant emotional trouble to someone and have thus created lulz for themselves.

    Many trolls are affiliated with the internet collective known as Anonymous, which is common on sites such as 4chan. Most of these trolls use simplistic hate mail and spamming techniques, and should be ignored. Anonymous trolls are largely the acne-plagued fat kids they are stereotyped as.

    Not all trolls are losers with poor hygiene, however. More experienced trolls will use more psychological and blackmail-esque techniques, one example being Jason Fortuny's Craigslist "experiment," in which Fortuny "trolled" people who responded to his bait Craigslist ad by posting their nude photos on a public website and contacting their employers about it. I've trolled Craigslist before, though I know that good trolling should never impact life outside of the internet (not all trolls do, though). Trolls that use psychological techniques will dig up dirt on you or attempt to pit you against others. These trolls are much smarter than simple hate-mailers, and often use code in their trolling to manipulate you into doing things unintentionally, such as accidentally deleting your MySpace group through the use of JavaScript (this one doesn't work anymore, thankfully).

    During my time trolling the MySpace trolls (see http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Missionmyspace), I ran into several psychological trolls. Some threatened to post some revealing pictures of me publicly, others tried contacting my employer (luckily, they guessed I worked at a different county's pool), and others spent hours trying to find out where I lived.

    The trick with these trolls is to remain unfazed. Respond to them, since they will not stop and many will do whatever it takes to get your attention, however, talk down to them and treat them dismissively. They're very smart and hate being talked down to. This may set them off, and it's impossible to predict what they'll do, but it's easier to distract them from their original goal by making them butthurt and intent on winning an argument with you than it is to derail them entirely.

    On deletion:

    Trolls are known to make dozens of spare "sock" accounts at a time to prepare for an onslaught. Often, one troll will use many sock accounts during a raid to make the attack seem more grandiose. Deleting a sock account is no loss for a troll, either another one will join the fray, or the troll will make more and regroup, then re-launch the barrage.

    Trolls use the slogan "deleted but never defeated." Trolls often get deleted for violating the Terms of Service (ToS) of various sites, but even if they get ToSsed time and time again, they will come back, more dedicated than ever, since they see someone reacted to their behavior by slaying their profile. However, if you kill all of a troll's sock accounts simultaneously, you will at least force the troll to regroup and rebuild their army, which will significantly hinder the troll's efforts.

    Hopefully this can help this forum. Remember, not all trolls are malicious. Some of us go after our own kind, since it's rather easy to make most trolls butthurt. If anyone has any questions, fire away.

    -Your friendly neighborhood troll
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    Aug 09, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    Someone threatened to post revealing pics of me publicly.
    I thanked them for the free advertisement. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 09, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    Behold RJ, a rare species of non-troll that attempts to camouflage as one.
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    Aug 09, 2010 4:57 AM GMT
    Ciarsolo saidBehold RJ, a rare species of non-troll that attempts to camouflage as one.
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    Aug 09, 2010 5:14 AM GMT
    Thanks, FTF. I have learned great lessons in "counter-trolling" from you in the past and appreciate your use of tools for the good of this community.

    Aloha and Be Well!
    Alan
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    Aug 09, 2010 5:16 AM GMT
    Are you "RealFake", "SoundAdvice" and all the others?
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    Aug 09, 2010 5:21 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidAre you "RealFake", "SoundAdvice" and all the others?


    Me? LOL, nope. This is my only RJ account.
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    Aug 12, 2010 5:47 AM GMT
    Featherfall: Do you still troll? If so, why?
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    Aug 12, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
    Fearthefall said
    unfounded7 saidAre you "RealFake", "SoundAdvice" and all the others?


    Me? LOL, nope. This is my only RJ account.


    I expect something MUCH better from Feary. Our present trolls are WEAK. There are only 1 or 2 who are actually semi intelligent.
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    Aug 27, 2010 8:51 AM GMT
    I'm bumping this because I'd say it's relevant given the current troll situation.
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    Aug 27, 2010 9:10 AM GMT
    I just don't see the point, why do people do it?
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    Aug 27, 2010 9:41 AM GMT
    NickFit saidI just don't see the point, why do people do it?


    For the lulz. If done well, trolling can be quite entertaining. However, most of it isn't done very well, as is seen on RJ.
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    Aug 27, 2010 9:53 AM GMT
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    NickFit saidI just don't see the point, why do people do it?


    For the lulz. If done well, trolling can be quite entertaining. However, most of it isn't done very well, as is seen on RJ.


    Well, I suppose different strokes for different folks, but I find it pretty sad that people seek entertainment by causing annoyance and misery to others.
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    Aug 27, 2010 10:31 AM GMT
    NickFit said
    Fearthefall said
    NickFit saidI just don't see the point, why do people do it?


    For the lulz. If done well, trolling can be quite entertaining. However, most of it isn't done very well, as is seen on RJ.


    Well, I suppose different strokes for different folks, but I find it pretty sad that people seek entertainment by causing annoyance and misery to others.


    It's often motivated by politics, differing lifestyles, etc. Also, if you're trolling bad people, I'd say it's more along the lines of community service.
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    Aug 27, 2010 10:56 AM GMT
    I'm sure your parents are proud.
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    Aug 27, 2010 2:08 PM GMT
    Fearthefall said
    Trolls are known to make dozens of spare "sock" accounts at a time to prepare for an onslaught. Often, one troll will use many sock accounts during a raid to make the attack seem more grandiose. Deleting a sock account is no loss for a troll, either another one will join the fray, or the troll will make more and regroup, then re-launch the barrage.



    These are called "alts" It should be immediately apparent when an "alt" posts, because it's usually their first post and something that generates controversy and rolling eyes. RJ users erroneously call them "trolls" but "alt" is more appropriate.
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    Aug 27, 2010 2:39 PM GMT
    whatever happened to a good game of scrub baseball??icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 27, 2010 8:14 PM GMT
    JB82 said
    Fearthefall said
    Trolls are known to make dozens of spare "sock" accounts at a time to prepare for an onslaught. Often, one troll will use many sock accounts during a raid to make the attack seem more grandiose. Deleting a sock account is no loss for a troll, either another one will join the fray, or the troll will make more and regroup, then re-launch the barrage.



    These are called "alts" It should be immediately apparent when an "alt" posts, because it's usually their first post and something that generates controversy and rolling eyes. RJ users erroneously call them "trolls" but "alt" is more appropriate.


    YOU call them "alts". Others (including a troll) call them sock puppets.
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    Aug 27, 2010 8:35 PM GMT
    This topic still creeps me out.

    "Trolls are driven by the desire to make lulz, or corrupted LOLs. For those living in the 1980s, LOL stands for laugh out loud, and lulz are thus corrupted laughs - lulz come from finding humor in others' suffering. A troll's job is to milk lulz from "lulz-cows," or people targeted by the troll."

    Why is another's suffering fun? Why did you enjoy it?

    "Often times, the troll's behavior will drive members from the group, causing the group to dissolve. Trolls cherish these victories as epic sources of lulz, since the scale of damage they caused is obviously much larger."


    Isn't that against what admin wants, which is a site full of members interacting?


    Lastly, are you telling us that you are an anti-troll and are trying to help us out? Please clarify, if you would..


    thanks kindly -Doug
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    Aug 27, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
    It's still unclear to me exactly what a troll is. A combination of a smurf and someone who just makes a jabbing remark in every thread?
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    Aug 27, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidIt's still unclear to me exactly what a troll is. A combination of a smurf and someone who just makes a jabbing remark in every thread?


    no. Google is your friend. Exploit your liberty to actually discover real information. icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Aug 28, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Lastly, are you telling us that you are an anti-troll and are trying to help us out? Please clarify, if you would..

    thanks kindly -Doug


    I'm a troll who goes after other trolls. The only non-troll groups I target are eco-terrorist groups, but those can often be destroyed without trolling, simply by reporting them to Facebook.
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    Aug 28, 2010 9:32 PM GMT
    OK, me likez that.