Resurrecting a living dinosaur from a living creature...

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    Feb 18, 2008 3:02 AM GMT
    Birds are descended from dinosaurs. I just saw a show about scientists realizing that the dinosaur genome is still in birds...long tails, teeth, grasping front "hands"...just it turns off early in the embryonic development. Now they are researching evoking those genes' expression.

    Dinosaurs: Return to Life follows scientists who are using the latest technology and amazing advances in genetic research to revive the possibility of creating a living breathing dinosaur, but in a different way than we ever imagined.
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    Feb 18, 2008 3:08 AM GMT
    Obviously these guys didn't see Jurassic Park.
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    Feb 18, 2008 5:29 AM GMT
    I just think it is fascinating that they are going to reverse-engineer a dinosaur by working backwards from a living bird. The show said probably an emu, since it is a primitive bird that expresses so many dinosaurian features already.

    It is interesting to hear also that feathers evolved much earlier than previously thought, and there is now speculation that T. rex may have been hatched with a downy covering of feathers to help keep it warm as a hatchling.
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    Feb 18, 2008 5:32 AM GMT
    That sounds very interesting actually. I wonder how the christian right and PETA are goint to react? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 18, 2008 5:39 AM GMT
    React? When? ....when they hear about it or when they are fed to the dinosaur ... icon_eek.gif

    me/ What'd I say? You think the dinosaur is gonna live on love? ... icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 18, 2008 5:56 AM GMT
    Yay the homosexicles win again!!!
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    Feb 18, 2008 6:22 AM GMT
    i totally just watched that show haha


    i think gene manipulation is simply amazing...
    i would have liked to see a fully grown tailed chicken though instead of just the embryo....
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    Feb 18, 2008 6:23 AM GMT
    Caslon saidReact? When? ....when they hear about it or when they are fed to the dinosaur ... icon_eek.gif

    me/ What'd I say? You think the dinosaur is gonna live on love? ... icon_twisted.gif







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    Feb 18, 2008 6:36 AM GMT
    Did Gay Dino's excist before ??? MMM I Wonder?

    Maybe they only ate Chick's?
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    Feb 18, 2008 6:51 AM GMT
    THere is homosexuality in evry species existing today so i am pretty certain even the dinos had there fair share of homo's maybe all of them decided to be gay and that's the reason for their extinction? Hmmmmmmm Ponder...icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 18, 2008 7:07 AM GMT
    I'd love it if the Christian Right would react to this news...would they really acknowledge that dinosaurs existed, or that they evolved? Sure, not all CR deny evolution, but I'd love to hear the apologists weigh in on this.

    Reminds me of when Pat Robertson came out in defense of Intelligent Design. I wrote him, asking why he had backed off of his earlier support of all-out Creationism. I got a form letter back.
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    Feb 18, 2008 7:14 AM GMT
    I forgot the christians didn't believe that dinos existed. Yet again ponder....icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 18, 2008 12:39 PM GMT
    erm. It's been well-known that birds are the living descendants of dinosaurs. Heh.

    Hence why there are two orders of dinosauria, the saurischia (lizard-hipped) and ornithischia (bird-hipped). Birds descended from the ornithischians of course.

    It's actually believed now that most ornithischians were actually feathered. The first fossil found with feather imprints was in China, I think. A Velociraptor like ornithischian, Sinornithus or something like that.

    Anyway, Jurassic park had it wrong.

    The 'raptors', Velociraptors, would most likely look like giant turkeys than what they were portrayed in the films Heh.

    Genetic archaeology... heh. Our DNA holds a lot of memories about evolution actually. Did you know that at certain stages, the human embryo looks like a worm, a fish, and finally a mammal? Like evolution on fast forward. icon_razz.gif We even have gills in the womb. icon_razz.gif

    Anyway, woot. To finally able to see a dinosaur is something really cool. icon_razz.gif

    I'm showing my geek streak...

    Oh hey... yeah. God didn't create dinosaurs, the devil did! icon_biggrin.gif

    I'm showing my atheist streak too...

    I need a new pair of horns.... icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 18, 2008 1:06 PM GMT
    I watched that special last night.

    I, myself, would love to see a retro-evolved dinosaur in the future. This may be possible within the next 50 years according to Jack Horner (this guy makes me laugh).

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    Feb 18, 2008 3:06 PM GMT
    I watched the same show last night. It was fascinating. It'll be interesting to follow the progress these scientists make, and the furor the religious right puts up at every turn.
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    Feb 18, 2008 3:09 PM GMT
    50 years!!! ... icon_cry.gif ... I wont be alive!

    That's what really bugs me about dying...I dont get to see "the rest of the story." What a crapper!
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    Feb 20, 2008 12:22 PM GMT
    Don't worry caslon, just save your DNA and I will resurrect you sometime. icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 3:43 PM GMT
    That would be interesting but such animals would have to be kept in facilities. If they ever made it to the wild they would really play havoc with our ecosystems.
    Reticulated Pythons and Nile Monitor Lizards are already screwing up South Florida.
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    Feb 20, 2008 4:13 PM GMT
    Retro-engineering dinos from birds would really mess with christian theory. Since God was supposed to have created all animals separately and complete, what would the genes for dinosaurs be doing in a chicken!?!?!?! .... icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 4:32 PM GMT
    Caslon askedSince God was supposed to have created all animals separately and complete, what would the genes for dinosaurs be doing in a chicken!?!?!?!


    The genes are there to test our faith, just like all the fossils in the ground. And that's because God is tricky.

    Some Christians say God made us gay to test us. What they haven't figured out yet is that he made us gay to test them. Just like I said...tricky.

    PS: Seeing a live dinosaur would be a childhood dream-come-true for me. But I'd vote for bringing back one of the giant plant-eaters. I think they're all saurischians, though, so we won't be making chickens into apatosaurs soon.
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    Feb 20, 2008 6:37 PM GMT
    MikeOnMain said[quoteBut I'd vote for bringing back one of the giant plant-eaters. I think they're all saurischians, though, so we won't be making chickens into apatosaurs soon.


    OH MY! Dont we know our dinosaurs ... icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 6:57 PM GMT
    Yup. Dinosaurs are way icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 7:16 PM GMT
    I vote for bringing back Dino. Between the two purple dinosaurs Dino would have my vote. Barney can just take a hike. I mean what was all that crap about "I love you, you love me"... icon_lol.gificon_wink.gif


    I think if we start tinkering around with something that can eat "us" then we might have gone a little too far. icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 21, 2008 11:22 AM GMT
    Hmmm... my info is out of date. LOL. It seems that scientists nowadays favor the fact that saurischians (although with hips more like those of a lizard's) have members which are more birdlike in appearance and are therefore more likely to have been the ancestors of avians:

    The Deinonychus.

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    The Velociraptor of Jurassic park fame (now in a more correct restoration):

    800px-Velociraptor_mongoliensis_jmallon.

    My favorite dinosaurs have always been hadrosaurs though(duckbills), and they're ornithischians. icon_sad.gif

    I want to see the Parasaurolophus icon_razz.gif

    Parasaurolophus20small.jpg

    Anyway there's also another theory that they evolved alongside dinosaurs instead from their common ancestor the archosaurids (kinda like apes and humans). Bleh.