FOX News Poll Shocking

  • GQjock

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    Aug 11, 2010 10:03 AM GMT
    Not really shocking because of what it said ....
    More because they posted the results

    72 Percent Agree With Prop 8 Ruling, Fox News Poll Shows
    Published: August 10, 2010

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=6196&MediaType=1&Category=26

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    Aug 11, 2010 12:03 PM GMT
    knowing that, people on site rallied to affect that very poll (I voted twice myself), is a fun fact.

    at the same time, knowing how the media use polls excessively, and that polls do in fact have an influence on the public opinion, is also a bit scary.

    seeing how easy it is to rig an online poll, no matter how noble the cause (like this case), makes you wonder just how many polls and statistics used in the media and by politicians are inaccurate.


  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 11, 2010 12:06 PM GMT
    It is stunning they actually gave the "fair and unbiased" results!
  • wave173

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    Aug 11, 2010 12:09 PM GMT
    I wouldn't say this poll is fair and balanced since many people voted multiple times. Plus CNN and Fox post these polls just to have a cheap and easy way of getting the public's view. This is not a scientific poll in any way. Other polls actually take the time to call people so their vote only counts once, as it should.
  • calibro

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    Aug 11, 2010 12:48 PM GMT
    it's not a scientific poll
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    Aug 11, 2010 3:12 PM GMT
    calibro saidit's not a scientific poll
    No, but I can nearly guarantee the majority of Fox News viewers have no idea that there's a difference between a scientific poll and a non-scientific poll.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 11, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
    judoguy saidknowing that, people on site rallied to affect that very poll (I voted twice myself), is a fun fact.

    at the same time, knowing how the media use polls excessively, and that polls do in fact have an influence on the public opinion, is also a bit scary.

    seeing how easy it is to rig an online poll, no matter how noble the cause (like this case), makes you wonder just how many polls and statistics used in the media and by politicians are inaccurate.





    I don't think Polls mean jack! Most are skewed to fit into some agenda. The only thing that really counts at the end of the day are the votes on election day that determine the passing or failing of any issue.
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    Aug 11, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
    I think this represents that even the typical Fox News audience has moved on from trying to stop the inequality on this issue. If they argue that the judge was 'activist' or not true to the constitution, they shoot themselves in the foot for so many other (constitution-based) 'fights' of theirs.

    The opposite vs interracial vs same-sex marriage argument is irrefutable. People are realizing this.
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    Aug 11, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
    I'm suprised they posted the results. icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 11, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    judoguy saidknowing that, people on site rallied to affect that very poll (I voted twice myself), is a fun fact.

    at the same time, knowing how the media use polls excessively, and that polls do in fact have an influence on the public opinion, is also a bit scary.

    seeing how easy it is to rig an online poll, no matter how noble the cause (like this case), makes you wonder just how many polls and statistics used in the media and by politicians are inaccurate.





    I don't think Polls mean jack! Most are skewed to fit into some agenda. The only thing that really counts at the end of the day are the votes on election day that determine the passing or failing of any issue.


    well, I merely suggest that at least a portion of the votes on election day, have been influenced by previous polls, statistics et.c. as presented by the media. it doesn't affect me either, but let's face it, a lot of people still believe most of what they see on tv.
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    Aug 11, 2010 4:09 PM GMT
    It's an ONLINE POLL. I voted on it! It means absolutely nothing at all.
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    Aug 11, 2010 4:09 PM GMT
    it's not surprising considering also the language of the poll. the "No" option says "I don't care what the judge thinks about the constitution." Being that we're in america and we kind of respect not only the constitution but those who are charged with interpreting it, no one would want to be that person who "doesn't care what the judge thinks about the constitution"
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    Aug 11, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidIt's an ONLINE POLL. I voted on it! It means absolutely nothing at all.


    Exactly. Any online poll (and, actually, any poll not conducted in a scientific manner) is worthless.

    I don't see the point in providing misinformation. We have enough misinformation coming from the other side.
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    Aug 11, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    txguy1605 saidit's not surprising considering also the language of the poll. the "No" option says "I don't care what the judge thinks about the constitution." Being that we're in america and we kind of respect not only the constitution but those who are charged with interpreting it, no one would want to be that person who "doesn't care what the judge thinks about the constitution"


    CTS...Consider The Source.

    You expected non-leading questions from FOX "News?"
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    Aug 11, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
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    txguy1605 saidit's not surprising considering also the language of the poll. the "No" option says "I don't care what the judge thinks about the constitution." Being that we're in america and we kind of respect not only the constitution but those who are charged with interpreting it, no one would want to be that person who "doesn't care what the judge thinks about the constitution"


    CTS...Consider The Source.

    You expected non-leading questions from FOX "News?"
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    not at all, but i definitely would have expected them to spin it so that it would appear as if most people were for prop 8, not against it.
  • rnch

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    Aug 11, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
    fox news is the "entertainment tonight" of GOP conservatives. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Joeyphx444

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    Aug 11, 2010 5:06 PM GMT
    OMG I live my life based on polls, I get all my info there!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 11, 2010 5:08 PM GMT
    You would be very naive if you did not think many of those who voted 'No' did not vote multiple times too. Of course it is not scientific, but it is encouraging.
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    Aug 11, 2010 5:20 PM GMT
    judoguy said
    seeing how easy it is to rig an online poll, no matter how noble the cause (like this case), makes you wonder just how many polls and statistics used in the media and by politicians are inaccurate.
    there are three kinds of lies:
    lies, damned lies, and statistics.

    (i'd be willing to add a fourth: polls)

    but, fixed or not, it's cool to see these results and have to watch fox air them.
  • Vaughn

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    Aug 11, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
    judoguy saidknowing that, people on site rallied to affect that very poll (I voted twice myself), is a fun fact.

    at the same time, knowing how the media use polls excessively, and that polls do in fact have an influence on the public opinion, is also a bit scary.

    seeing how easy it is to rig an online poll, no matter how noble the cause (like this case), makes you wonder just how many polls and statistics used in the media and by politicians are inaccurate.




    Sometimes when the same poll is done on 2 different stations and they each quote a different part, it adds up to way over 100 %.

    In school when professors talk about the best ways to gather data, online polls are at the bottom of the list. People who think a certain way tend to go to certain websites and not others. Which is what news organizations count on.
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    Aug 11, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
    Wow even after members of RJ tried to manipulate it, it still come out like that; wow.

    I ponder if it was to be put on the card again to vote on, if even more people this time around would vote for prop8.
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    Aug 12, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
    aunty_jack saidWow even after members of RJ tried to manipulate it, it still come out like that; wow.

    I ponder if it was to be put on the card again to vote on, if even more people this time around would vote for prop8.



    Aunty_jackoff, did you read the results of the poll correctly? 72% supported the decision of the judge and agreed prop 8 violates the constitution.
  • rioriz

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    Aug 12, 2010 12:53 AM GMT
    What's not shocking is that because it comes from Fox News people automatically think the poll is skewed...geez...I know many, many GAY conservatives and straights who agree with gay marriage...many law makers Dems and Repubs do to but are too afraid of how it will affect their numbers to stand up and say so...
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    Aug 12, 2010 1:07 AM GMT
    rioriz saidWhat's not shocking is that because it comes from Fox News people automatically think the poll is skewed...geez...I know many, many GAY conservatives and straights who agree with gay marriage...many law makers Dems and Repubs do to but are too afraid of how it will affect their numbers to stand up and say so...


    Well said.
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    Aug 12, 2010 1:21 AM GMT
    GQjock saidNot really shocking because of what it said ....
    More because they posted the results

    72 Percent Agree With Prop 8 Ruling, Fox News Poll Shows
    Published: August 10, 2010

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=6196&MediaType=1&Category=26

    fox_news_prop8_poll.jpg

    FOX etc realize that they are on the wrong side of this issue now. So they are now cutting the ropes and putting distance between them and it. The Conservative Christians are gonna be left hanging.